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E/I and Specials

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azumanga

Last night (12/11), I noticed that ABC's "Winnie the Pooh" Chritsmas special had their E/I bug in the upper right corner, instead of their holiday snlowflake bug in the lower right corner.

The thing about this is that I thought that only regularly-scheduled programs (such as much of their "ABC Kids" Saturday morning schedule) can be E/I, and not one-time specials, such as "Winnie the Pooh"?
 
How in the hell can the kids block on Saturday qualify as E/I in the first place? "Hannah Montana" is annoying, not educational! :(
 
KML-224 said:
How in the hell can the kids block on Saturday qualify as E/I in the first place? "Hannah Montana" is annoying, not educational! :(
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The same way This Week in Baseball can. In other words, I don't think the FCC is too strict on what can be considered E/I programming.
 
TV stations are free to air any programming they like with an E/I logo on it. But they cannot count it as "core" educational/informational programming unless it is regularly scheduled. They can still report it, but it must be listed as "non-core."

(Only "core" programming meets the three hour rule. "Non-core" does not count.)
 
Which comes to this next question -- since the "Winnie the Pooh" special is a "non-core" E/I program that doesn't count towards the 3 hours, what makes that special E/I and something like "A Charlie Brown Christmas" not?
 
I guess that the Seal of Good Practice from the NAB is officially dead & buried.

If you're too young to remember the Seal of Good Practice, which used to be on TV all the time in previous decades, ask your parents.
 
Don't forget reruns of "The New Zoo Revue," from the 70s. Emmy Jo is hot in her go-go boots and short hot pants :)
 
Mark said:
Don't forget reruns of "The New Zoo Revue," from the 70s. Emmy Jo is hot in her go-go boots and short hot pants :)
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Weekday Mornings on stations including WSAH Bridgeport and WMFP Boston. Both formerly Shop-at-Home O&Os now owned by Multi Cultural Broadcasting. When the show was new in the 70s was this a network show or a syndicated show?

Anyway take a look at Univision's E/I programming - Carmen Sandiego and Bill Nye the Science Guy dubbed in Spanish. Those are great E/I shows. Their other E/I show is Pinky Dinky Doo. Not sure what that is. I've never seen the English language version.
 
MarcB said:
Mark said:
Don't forget reruns of "The New Zoo Revue," from the 70s. Emmy Jo is hot in her go-go boots and short hot pants :)
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When the show was new in the 70s was this a network show or a syndicated show?
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It was syndicated.

MarcB said:
Anyway take a look at Univision's E/I programming - Carmen Sandiego and Bill Nye the Science Guy dubbed in Spanish. Those are great E/I shows.
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First of all -- Carmen Sandiego -- was this the animated series or the game show?

Second -- while they are worthwhile E/I shows, I'm surprised Univision didn't turn to Televisa or Venevision for help -- remember when they used to show "Plaza Sesamo", the Mexican "Sesame Street"?
 
Univision got cited by the FCC for turning to Televisa for help with E/I - Univision had attempted to air a telenovela that starred a large cast of mostly kids, and claim it was educational. The FCC disagreed.

And, Plaza Sesamo still airs on Telefutura, Univision's sister network. (Last I checked, anyway.)
 
Johnathan said:
And, Plaza Sesamo still airs on Telefutura, Univision's sister network. (Last I checked, anyway.)
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I was curious, how many local over-the-air (Spanihs or non-Spanish) stations run Plaza Sesamo? The reason I ask is because for years (probably at least the last 7 if not longer), Plaza Sesamo has been airing on Saturday Mornings at 9AM and 930AM on WGBY Channel 57 the PBS affiliate in Springfield, Massachusetts.
 
I stumbled upon it on WTIU 30/Bloomington IN on Sunday morning.
 
I actually remember WGBX-44 aired it for a few years in the early 2000s when they first started having a real kids' lineup. For like 2 hours or so, they aired a lot of the same shows on WGBH-2, dubbed in Spanish. This was one of them. It was a lot like the version that's on Univision/Telefutura, only the closing credit sequence was different.
 
This E/I BS is a clear sign of broadcasters' lack of guts. They could have gone to court and won easily on this. And look who was pushing this requirement: Producers of kids' shows. Public television and cable do plenty of kids shows. There was no need to cram this down broadcasters' throats (mostly at the expense of news and bona fide public affairs programming).
 
Julius Leonard Marx said:
...look who was pushing this requirement: Producers of kids' shows.There was no need to cram this down broadcasters' throats (mostly at the expense of news and bona fide public affairs programming).
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And as a form of rtetaliation, some stations either bury a daily half-hour E/I program in a long infomercial block, and/or schedule the E/I shows when kids are at school, such as at 10PM.
 
azumanga said:
And as a form of rtetaliation, some stations either bury a daily half-hour E/I program in a long infomercial block, and/or schedule the E/I shows when kids are at school, such as at 10PM.
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Unless it's Penal Elementary or Gray Bars Jr. High, I don't know of many kids that are in school at 10PM. :D
 
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