Re: Next Chapter
And thank you for your history.
I moved to Philadelphia in the fall of 1977 to start college at Drexel. I was amazed to find out later that Big Ron O'Brien, a legend, was at WFIL when I hit town and I never listened to him.
What about WABC? WABC had a strong signal day and night. Did they affect any of the ratings? I certainly spent a lot of time listening to WABC.
> > Thanks for the Phila. top 40 radio history.
> >
> > I guess the next chapter started around 1972 or 1973 with
> > WIFI 92.
> >
>
> Your right, but not exactly. WIFI evolved into a top 40 hit
> oriented format from a automated assortment of pop/rock
> singles. Songs played that were big and songs that stiffed
> or bubbled under the top 100 billboard charts. Then in late
> 72, they became a live top 40 radio station. The jocks
> compared to 'FIL had a bit more energy and hypeness. Some
> even screamed bloody murder. They had a playlist of hit
> songs that were a few weeks added and played on the air
> before 'FIL added them on. Some that became big, and some
> that stiffed on or below the Top 40 billboard positions.
> There were a few former 'FIL jocks that worked during it's
> early days, but didn't stay on very long. Even the legendary
> Hy Lit did mornings at WIFI, but was fired after 2-3 weeks
> because of bad and outdated adlibs. At that time he was
> already yesterday's news with a chance of a comeback, but
> not to be heard from again in Philly radio for a very long
> time.
>
> WIFI 92 became popular not because of the jocks and
> programming. (Most people in Philly couldn't remember most
> of the jocks that worked there.) Because the times a
> changing.... It was FM. It never really dethroned 'FIL
> itself, it was a contributing combination of things. WMMR
> was coming out of the underground from the psychedelic days,
> WIOQ (former WFIL- FM ) became a wide variety low keyed TOP
> 40/ AOR ish station, WCAU-FM was already playing oldies
> before WIFI went live, WYSP the 2nd heritage AOR was around
> the corner, and by 1975 with several more to
> follow....combination of the FM stations just nibbled away
> at 'FIL's audience. Finally dethroning it from the top spot
> as Philly's contemporary No. 1 station.
>
> Legends like Dr. Don was already gone in SF., George Michael
> was lured away to WABC, and before then he was stating to
> fade. Long John Wade was on 'CAU FM, and 'FIL had to gear
> more toward adults especially in the daytime even though it
> stayed top 40.
>
> When the Magic format came out along with a few more AC
> stations starting in '76, the days looked completely over
> for "FIL. By '78 it went top 40 AC, only to throw in the
> towel like many other legends by the early 80's. WIFI
> continued to stay Top 40 through the 70's... and it had it's
> share of struggle being the only top 40 on the FM dial with
> several AOR's, Disco, and a new breed of Soft Magic type AC
> stations on the FM to contend with. By 1981 WIFI met it's
> fate with a new rejuvenated Top 40, "Mike Joeseph's Hot
> Hits" CAU-FM. By '83 it was over, WIFI was gone as we once
> knew it. (Someone want to take chapter 3.) The real last
> chapter of Philly radio.
>
> WIFI was pretty much remembered more by call letters and the
> music it played, but never carried household names like
> WIBBAGE, WFIL, WHAT, WIP, or even talk stations did. And
> many people (or the average listener) won't even remember
> that it was the first contemporary hit full time station on
> the FM dial. All it did was lure people away to hear their
> hit songs in stereo from the AM stations, which was a thrill
> like IPOD's, XM and Sirius is today.
>
>
>
>
>
> > > As both a huge KHJ fan and a Philly native, I want to
> > jump
> > > in and share some insights into Drake/Boss Radio, and
> what
> >
> > > happened in Philadelphia. Those who criticize Drake
> radio
> > > the most, do so based on having heard those who IMITATED
>
> > > Drake and KHJ...they were the people who didn't get it,
> > not
> > > Drake, Ron Jacobs and crew. Drake Top 40 extended the
> life
> >
> > > of the mass audience to Top 40, by making CHR more
> > palatible
> > > to Rock radio's first generation...blending in Oldies,
> and
> >
> > > making Top 40 cleaner and more sixties focused in
> > > presentation, rather than an extension of the fifties.
> > Drake
> > > had real personalities on KHJ...the imitators hired
> voices
> >
> > > to perform the formatics. KHJ immediately re-positioned
> > KRLA
> > > as jive and corny, and KFWB as History...which they were
>
> > in
> > > less than three years as a Top 40 station.
> > >
> > > The Philadelphia story is different.
> > >
> > > WIBG, despite having significant signal problems
> > especially
> > > at night, was the long term venerable Top 40 into
> > > 1966...basically sounding unchanged since 1957, chatty,
> a
> > 99
> > > song current playlist, jocks who were as old as the
> > parents
> > > of Top 40's target audience, and overall pretty
> lethargic.
> >
> > > WIBG had fended off a challenge in the format in 1961 by
>
> > > WIP, and following that, no one dared go near Wibbage.
> > Until
> > > September 18, 1966, when WFIL converted to top 40.
> > >
> > > Just as KHJ had done, WFIL had younger fresher jocks, a
> > fast
> > > paced presentation, and the psychological emphasis not
> on
> > > the jocks, but on the music. The Wibbage good guys were
> > > talking about their golf games, while WFIL went right
> > after
> > > the teens and 18-34. The Wibbage survey in the stores
> was
> > a
> > > plain sheet of white paper with a WIBG logo sporting a
> gas
> >
> > > lamp. The WFIL survey was loud bold and
> contemporary.WFIL
> > > introduced Philadelphia to big money cash giveaways,
> WFIL
> > > was on every cab top, billboard, newspaper ad, and may
> > have
> > > been the first radio station to use TV in Philadelphia
> to
> > > build cume.
> > >
> > > By February of 1968, it was almost all over for WIBG.
> WFIL
> >
> > > changed morning people, and hired Dr. Don Rose from
> > WQXI...a
> > > former colleague and good friend of Paul Drew. Drew, an
> > > understudy to Bill Drake, was programming CKLW...where
> > > WIBG's owner, Storer Broadcasting, had a radio station
> in
> > > Detroit, WJBK. Storer hired Drew to convert WIBG to
> modern
> >
> > > sounding top 40, driven by the sound and formatics of
> > CKLW.
> > >
> > > By this time, although sounding nothing like a Drake
> > > station, WFIL was calling itself ' Boss Radio" on the
> air.
> >
> > > When Drew was announced for WIBG, WFIL ( with a little
> > help
> > > from Rose) went to school on Drew, and what he might do
> at
> >
> > > WIBG.
> > >
> > > WFIL immediately shortened it's playlist from 56 titles
> to
> >
> > > 30, started playing more Gold, the survey became The
> Boss
> > > 30, the jocks became The Boss Jocks, the weekends became
>
> > The
> > > Million Dollar Weekend, and claimed a lot of Drew's act
> > > before he arrived.
> > >
> > > In the middle of the April-May '68 book, Drew replaced
> the
> >
> > > announcing staff, with the exception of Joe Niagara and
> > Ray
> > > Gilmore, and hired an entirely new news department for
> the
> >
> > > launch of WIBG 20/20 News.
> > >
> > > WFIL, mindful of the parade of on air contesting Drew
> did
> > at
> > > CKLW, began it's own parade of the same
> contests...before
> > > they hit the air on the Big 99. In WFIL's Beat The Bomb
> > > contest, they deliberately ran the contest, and gave
> away
> > > embarrassingly low amounts of money. Having given away
> > $5000
> > > at a pop previously in contests, I have an aircheck
> where
> > > WFIL's Dave Parks plays Beat The Bomb and awards $4.00 (
>
> > > four dollars). Making Drew look even sillier when WIBG
> ran
> >
> > > it.
> > >
> > > When WIBG ran it's weekend-long All Time Top 300, they
> > took
> > > out a full-page ad in the Bulletin afternoon newspaper
> > > listing the songs in order...and WFIL played those
> > records
> > > in order, one song ahead of WIBG the entire weekend.
> > WFIL's
> > > jocks were real personalities...WIBG's jocks were voices
>
> > > which were interchangable...and the average life
> > expectancy
> > > of a jock at WIBG under Drew was 3 months. In October
> > 1969,
> > > Storer sold WIBG and Drew and any semblence of that kind
>
> > of
> > > radio were gone.
> > >
> > > WFIL was never Drake...and WIBG was never a KHJ or even
> a
> > > CKLW, just a failed clone. Also, Jay Cook did not become
>
> > > Program Director of WFIL until after all of this. The
> > > original PD was Jim Hilliard, followed by Lee Sherwood,
> > then
> > > Cook.
> > >
> >
>
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And thank you for your history.
I moved to Philadelphia in the fall of 1977 to start college at Drexel. I was amazed to find out later that Big Ron O'Brien, a legend, was at WFIL when I hit town and I never listened to him.
What about WABC? WABC had a strong signal day and night. Did they affect any of the ratings? I certainly spent a lot of time listening to WABC.
> > Thanks for the Phila. top 40 radio history.
> >
> > I guess the next chapter started around 1972 or 1973 with
> > WIFI 92.
> >
>
> Your right, but not exactly. WIFI evolved into a top 40 hit
> oriented format from a automated assortment of pop/rock
> singles. Songs played that were big and songs that stiffed
> or bubbled under the top 100 billboard charts. Then in late
> 72, they became a live top 40 radio station. The jocks
> compared to 'FIL had a bit more energy and hypeness. Some
> even screamed bloody murder. They had a playlist of hit
> songs that were a few weeks added and played on the air
> before 'FIL added them on. Some that became big, and some
> that stiffed on or below the Top 40 billboard positions.
> There were a few former 'FIL jocks that worked during it's
> early days, but didn't stay on very long. Even the legendary
> Hy Lit did mornings at WIFI, but was fired after 2-3 weeks
> because of bad and outdated adlibs. At that time he was
> already yesterday's news with a chance of a comeback, but
> not to be heard from again in Philly radio for a very long
> time.
>
> WIFI 92 became popular not because of the jocks and
> programming. (Most people in Philly couldn't remember most
> of the jocks that worked there.) Because the times a
> changing.... It was FM. It never really dethroned 'FIL
> itself, it was a contributing combination of things. WMMR
> was coming out of the underground from the psychedelic days,
> WIOQ (former WFIL- FM ) became a wide variety low keyed TOP
> 40/ AOR ish station, WCAU-FM was already playing oldies
> before WIFI went live, WYSP the 2nd heritage AOR was around
> the corner, and by 1975 with several more to
> follow....combination of the FM stations just nibbled away
> at 'FIL's audience. Finally dethroning it from the top spot
> as Philly's contemporary No. 1 station.
>
> Legends like Dr. Don was already gone in SF., George Michael
> was lured away to WABC, and before then he was stating to
> fade. Long John Wade was on 'CAU FM, and 'FIL had to gear
> more toward adults especially in the daytime even though it
> stayed top 40.
>
> When the Magic format came out along with a few more AC
> stations starting in '76, the days looked completely over
> for "FIL. By '78 it went top 40 AC, only to throw in the
> towel like many other legends by the early 80's. WIFI
> continued to stay Top 40 through the 70's... and it had it's
> share of struggle being the only top 40 on the FM dial with
> several AOR's, Disco, and a new breed of Soft Magic type AC
> stations on the FM to contend with. By 1981 WIFI met it's
> fate with a new rejuvenated Top 40, "Mike Joeseph's Hot
> Hits" CAU-FM. By '83 it was over, WIFI was gone as we once
> knew it. (Someone want to take chapter 3.) The real last
> chapter of Philly radio.
>
> WIFI was pretty much remembered more by call letters and the
> music it played, but never carried household names like
> WIBBAGE, WFIL, WHAT, WIP, or even talk stations did. And
> many people (or the average listener) won't even remember
> that it was the first contemporary hit full time station on
> the FM dial. All it did was lure people away to hear their
> hit songs in stereo from the AM stations, which was a thrill
> like IPOD's, XM and Sirius is today.
>
>
>
>
>
> > > As both a huge KHJ fan and a Philly native, I want to
> > jump
> > > in and share some insights into Drake/Boss Radio, and
> what
> >
> > > happened in Philadelphia. Those who criticize Drake
> radio
> > > the most, do so based on having heard those who IMITATED
>
> > > Drake and KHJ...they were the people who didn't get it,
> > not
> > > Drake, Ron Jacobs and crew. Drake Top 40 extended the
> life
> >
> > > of the mass audience to Top 40, by making CHR more
> > palatible
> > > to Rock radio's first generation...blending in Oldies,
> and
> >
> > > making Top 40 cleaner and more sixties focused in
> > > presentation, rather than an extension of the fifties.
> > Drake
> > > had real personalities on KHJ...the imitators hired
> voices
> >
> > > to perform the formatics. KHJ immediately re-positioned
> > KRLA
> > > as jive and corny, and KFWB as History...which they were
>
> > in
> > > less than three years as a Top 40 station.
> > >
> > > The Philadelphia story is different.
> > >
> > > WIBG, despite having significant signal problems
> > especially
> > > at night, was the long term venerable Top 40 into
> > > 1966...basically sounding unchanged since 1957, chatty,
> a
> > 99
> > > song current playlist, jocks who were as old as the
> > parents
> > > of Top 40's target audience, and overall pretty
> lethargic.
> >
> > > WIBG had fended off a challenge in the format in 1961 by
>
> > > WIP, and following that, no one dared go near Wibbage.
> > Until
> > > September 18, 1966, when WFIL converted to top 40.
> > >
> > > Just as KHJ had done, WFIL had younger fresher jocks, a
> > fast
> > > paced presentation, and the psychological emphasis not
> on
> > > the jocks, but on the music. The Wibbage good guys were
> > > talking about their golf games, while WFIL went right
> > after
> > > the teens and 18-34. The Wibbage survey in the stores
> was
> > a
> > > plain sheet of white paper with a WIBG logo sporting a
> gas
> >
> > > lamp. The WFIL survey was loud bold and
> contemporary.WFIL
> > > introduced Philadelphia to big money cash giveaways,
> WFIL
> > > was on every cab top, billboard, newspaper ad, and may
> > have
> > > been the first radio station to use TV in Philadelphia
> to
> > > build cume.
> > >
> > > By February of 1968, it was almost all over for WIBG.
> WFIL
> >
> > > changed morning people, and hired Dr. Don Rose from
> > WQXI...a
> > > former colleague and good friend of Paul Drew. Drew, an
> > > understudy to Bill Drake, was programming CKLW...where
> > > WIBG's owner, Storer Broadcasting, had a radio station
> in
> > > Detroit, WJBK. Storer hired Drew to convert WIBG to
> modern
> >
> > > sounding top 40, driven by the sound and formatics of
> > CKLW.
> > >
> > > By this time, although sounding nothing like a Drake
> > > station, WFIL was calling itself ' Boss Radio" on the
> air.
> >
> > > When Drew was announced for WIBG, WFIL ( with a little
> > help
> > > from Rose) went to school on Drew, and what he might do
> at
> >
> > > WIBG.
> > >
> > > WFIL immediately shortened it's playlist from 56 titles
> to
> >
> > > 30, started playing more Gold, the survey became The
> Boss
> > > 30, the jocks became The Boss Jocks, the weekends became
>
> > The
> > > Million Dollar Weekend, and claimed a lot of Drew's act
> > > before he arrived.
> > >
> > > In the middle of the April-May '68 book, Drew replaced
> the
> >
> > > announcing staff, with the exception of Joe Niagara and
> > Ray
> > > Gilmore, and hired an entirely new news department for
> the
> >
> > > launch of WIBG 20/20 News.
> > >
> > > WFIL, mindful of the parade of on air contesting Drew
> did
> > at
> > > CKLW, began it's own parade of the same
> contests...before
> > > they hit the air on the Big 99. In WFIL's Beat The Bomb
> > > contest, they deliberately ran the contest, and gave
> away
> > > embarrassingly low amounts of money. Having given away
> > $5000
> > > at a pop previously in contests, I have an aircheck
> where
> > > WFIL's Dave Parks plays Beat The Bomb and awards $4.00 (
>
> > > four dollars). Making Drew look even sillier when WIBG
> ran
> >
> > > it.
> > >
> > > When WIBG ran it's weekend-long All Time Top 300, they
> > took
> > > out a full-page ad in the Bulletin afternoon newspaper
> > > listing the songs in order...and WFIL played those
> > records
> > > in order, one song ahead of WIBG the entire weekend.
> > WFIL's
> > > jocks were real personalities...WIBG's jocks were voices
>
> > > which were interchangable...and the average life
> > expectancy
> > > of a jock at WIBG under Drew was 3 months. In October
> > 1969,
> > > Storer sold WIBG and Drew and any semblence of that kind
>
> > of
> > > radio were gone.
> > >
> > > WFIL was never Drake...and WIBG was never a KHJ or even
> a
> > > CKLW, just a failed clone. Also, Jay Cook did not become
>
> > > Program Director of WFIL until after all of this. The
> > > original PD was Jim Hilliard, followed by Lee Sherwood,
> > then
> > > Cook.
> > >
> >
>
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