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EBS TEST ON TODAY SHOW ON CH.5

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abcdj

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What the heck was Ch.5 doing running an EBS weather alert test at the opening of the TODAY show this morning??
 
> What the heck was Ch.5 doing running an EBS weather alert
> test at the opening of the TODAY show this morning??
>
They were passing along the REQUIRED Monthly Test. Not a lot of options there.
 
> > What the heck was Ch.5 doing running an EBS weather alert
> > test at the opening of the TODAY show this morning??
> >
> They were passing along the REQUIRED Monthly Test. Not a
> lot of options there.
>
Cripes, why cant they run that at 2:30 in the AM
 
> Cripes, why cant they run that at 2:30 in the AM
>
The required monthly test has specified time periods it has to run, rotating thru the year. AM drive was this month's lucky winner in the contest.
 
> > Cripes, why cant they run that at 2:30 in the AM
> >
> The required monthly test has specified time periods it has
> to run, rotating thru the year. AM drive was this month's
> lucky winner in the contest.
>
WHY wouldnt' they at least put it somewhere other than the OPENING to the Today Show...
That was just plain STUPID.
 
It's FCC law that you get the monthly test on ASAP. You have so many minutes to air it. Also I'm sure they didn't want to roll over a break and have to make good a spot.
 
> It's FCC law that you get the monthly test on ASAP. You
> have so many minutes to air it. Also I'm sure they didn't
> want to roll over a break and have to make good a spot.
>

Those tests are usually scheduled on the program log, and since it was close to network programming, probably scheduled within a local avail. Nobody would schedule an EAS (EBS is so 1970s) test within a network spot break...the network would scream bloody hell.

"This is a test. For the next sixty seconds, this station will conduct a test of the Emergency Broadcast System. This is only a test.

TONE

This is a test of the Emergency Broadcast System. The broadcasters of your area, in cooperation with Federal, state, and local authorities, have developed this system to keep you informed in the event of an emergency. If this had been an actual emergency, you would have been instructed where to tune in your area for news and official information. This station serves the (market) area. This concludes this test of the Emergency Broadcast System."

Damn, I can't believe I remembered all that.
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> > It's FCC law that you get the monthly test on ASAP. You
> > have so many minutes to air it. Also I'm sure they didn't
> > want to roll over a break and have to make good a spot.
> >
>
> Those tests are usually scheduled on the program log, and
> since it was close to network programming, probably
> scheduled within a local avail. Nobody would schedule an EAS
> (EBS is so 1970s) test within a network spot break...the
> network would scream bloody hell.
>
> "This is a test. For the next sixty seconds, this station
> will conduct a test of the Emergency Broadcast System. This
> is only a test.
>
> TONE
>
> This is a test of the Emergency Broadcast System. The
> broadcasters of your area, in cooperation with Federal,
> state, and local authorities, have developed this system to
> keep you informed in the event of an emergency. If this had
> been an actual emergency, you would have been instructed
> where to tune in your area for news and official
> information. This station serves the (market) area. This
> concludes this test of the Emergency Broadcast System."
>
> Damn, I can't believe I remembered all that.
>
Programming at the first station I worked for in the early 60s existed in such a lethargic vacuum that running an EBS test (as it was then called) was the highlight of the day.

Anyone still have an older radio on which the dial is marked with a triangle at 640 and 1240 to locate CONELRAD stations, the place to tune for news and official information, in case of an actual emergency.
 
>
> Anyone still have an older radio on which the dial is marked
> with a triangle at 640 and 1240 to locate CONELRAD stations,
> the place to tune for news and official information, in case
> of an actual emergency.
>
And do you remember having to dump the carrier during the test. Off 5 seconds...on 5 seconds...off 5 seconds...then back on....if memory serves...its been a while since way back then.
 
>
> Anyone still have an older radio on which the dial is marked
> with a triangle at 640 and 1240 to locate CONELRAD stations,
> the place to tune for news and official information, in case
> of an actual emergency.

Yes I do. Now I know what the triangle marking is for.
 
> >
> > Anyone still have an older radio on which the dial is
> marked
> > with a triangle at 640 and 1240 to locate CONELRAD
> stations,
> > the place to tune for news and official information, in
> case
> > of an actual emergency.
> >
> And do you remember having to dump the carrier during the
> test. Off 5 seconds...on 5 seconds...off 5 seconds...then
> back on....if memory serves...its been a while since way
> back then.
>
...yes, and pray it came back up after all the on/off exchanges!

anybody ever have to record one of the infamous EBS actuality carts.
pretty scarry stuff.
CONELRAD...there's a word from the past too! Can you imagine maintaining a Conelrad transmitter that never saw the light o' day.
 
> >
> > Anyone still have an older radio on which the dial is
> marked
> > with a triangle at 640 and 1240 to locate CONELRAD
> stations,
> > the place to tune for news and official information, in
> case
> > of an actual emergency.
> >
> And do you remember having to dump the carrier during the
> test. Off 5 seconds...on 5 seconds...off 5 seconds...then
> back on....if memory serves...its been a while since way
> back then.


Sure do. Every time we did the off-on-off-on routine the transmtter usually would give out and refuse to come back on. The engineer owned a radio-TV repair shop and was always out on a service call (pre-pager era) so the station would be off the air until Gyro Gearloose could be reached and sent to the transmitter site. The traffic/continuity lady never scheduled spots for an hour after an EBS test, just in case.
 
> > >
> > > Anyone still have an older radio on which the dial is
> > marked
> > > with a triangle at 640 and 1240 to locate CONELRAD
> > stations,
> > > the place to tune for news and official information, in
> > case
> > > of an actual emergency.
> > >
> > And do you remember having to dump the carrier during the
> > test. Off 5 seconds...on 5 seconds...off 5 seconds...then
>
> > back on....if memory serves...its been a while since way
> > back then.
> >
> ...yes, and pray it came back up after all the on/off
> exchanges!
>
> anybody ever have to record one of the infamous EBS
> actuality carts.
> pretty scarry stuff.
> CONELRAD...there's a word from the past too! Can you
> imagine maintaining a Conelrad transmitter that never saw
> the light o' day.
>
Once heard an ersatz alert cart a jock in Nacogdoches recorded. Urban legend of the station says an on-air guy once played it in the studio, thinking the channel was in audition but it was in program instead. Actually heard the cart played in the production room but don't know if the story of it getting on air was true.
 
> > > Cripes, why cant they run that at 2:30 in the AM
> > >
> > The required monthly test has specified time periods it
> has
> > to run, rotating thru the year. AM drive was this month's
>
> > lucky winner in the contest.
> >
> WHY wouldnt' they at least put it somewhere other than the
> OPENING to the Today Show...
> That was just plain STUPID.
>


TO THE ALL THE IDIOTS ON THIS BOARD WHO ARE BITCHING AND WHINING LIKE A LITTLE SCHOOL GIRL:

KXAS DOES NOT RUN JACK OUT OF THEIR STATION. THEY DO NOT HAVE CONTROL OVER ANYTHING THAT OCCURS ON THEIR AIR. EVERYTHING YOU SEE AND HAPPEN, EXCEPT THE LOCAL NEWS SHOWS, IS RUN OUT OF MIAMI. IF KXAS GOES OFF THE AIR, IT IS MIAMI'S RESPONSIBILITY TO GET THEM BACK 0N THE AIR. NO ONE AT KXAS CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT WHEN THAT EAS AIRS. MIAMI WILL RUN IT EVEN AT THE HEAD OF THE TODAY SHOW LIKE THEY DID OR THEY HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO RUN THE EAS DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE TRAFFIC REPORTER LADY'S SEGMENT. KXAS IS NOT THE ONE AT FAULT BUT RATHER MIAMI FOR HAVING POOR JUDGEMENT.
 
> KXAS DOES NOT RUN JACK OUT OF THEIR STATION. THEY DO NOT
> HAVE CONTROL OVER ANYTHING THAT OCCURS ON THEIR AIR.
> EVERYTHING YOU SEE AND HAPPEN, EXCEPT THE LOCAL NEWS SHOWS,
> IS RUN OUT OF MIAMI. IF KXAS GOES OFF THE AIR, IT IS
> MIAMI'S RESPONSIBILITY TO GET THEM BACK 0N THE AIR. NO ONE
> AT KXAS CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT WHEN THAT EAS AIRS. MIAMI
> WILL RUN IT EVEN AT THE HEAD OF THE TODAY SHOW LIKE THEY DID
> OR THEY HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO RUN THE EAS DURING THE MIDDLE OF
> THE TRAFFIC REPORTER LADY'S SEGMENT. KXAS IS NOT THE ONE AT
> FAULT BUT RATHER MIAMI FOR HAVING POOR JUDGEMENT.
>
Somebody hasn't taken their blood pressure medication today. By the way the above explanation is a PR"clap trap"explanation.KXAS is in charge of their own facillities. Ask their engineering staff.
 
> > KXAS DOES NOT RUN JACK OUT OF THEIR STATION. THEY DO NOT
> > HAVE CONTROL OVER ANYTHING THAT OCCURS ON THEIR AIR.
> > EVERYTHING YOU SEE AND HAPPEN, EXCEPT THE LOCAL NEWS
> SHOWS,
> > IS RUN OUT OF MIAMI. IF KXAS GOES OFF THE AIR, IT IS
> > MIAMI'S RESPONSIBILITY TO GET THEM BACK 0N THE AIR. NO
> ONE
> > AT KXAS CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT WHEN THAT EAS AIRS. MIAMI
> > WILL RUN IT EVEN AT THE HEAD OF THE TODAY SHOW LIKE THEY
> DID
> > OR THEY HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO RUN THE EAS DURING THE MIDDLE
> OF
> > THE TRAFFIC REPORTER LADY'S SEGMENT. KXAS IS NOT THE ONE
> AT
> > FAULT BUT RATHER MIAMI FOR HAVING POOR JUDGEMENT.
> >
> Somebody hasn't taken their blood pressure medication today.
> By the way the above explanation is a PR"clap
> trap"explanation.KXAS is in charge of their own facillities.
> Ask their engineering staff.
>
Ed, txfotog is correct. How do I know? I work here. Feel free to call me.
 
> > > KXAS DOES NOT RUN JACK OUT OF THEIR STATION. THEY DO
> NOT
> > > HAVE CONTROL OVER ANYTHING THAT OCCURS ON THEIR AIR.
> > > EVERYTHING YOU SEE AND HAPPEN, EXCEPT THE LOCAL NEWS
> > SHOWS,
> > > IS RUN OUT OF MIAMI. IF KXAS GOES OFF THE AIR, IT IS
> > > MIAMI'S RESPONSIBILITY TO GET THEM BACK 0N THE AIR. NO
> > ONE
> > > AT KXAS CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT WHEN THAT EAS AIRS. MIAMI
>
> > > WILL RUN IT EVEN AT THE HEAD OF THE TODAY SHOW LIKE THEY
>
> > DID
> > > OR THEY HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO RUN THE EAS DURING THE MIDDLE
>
> > OF
> > > THE TRAFFIC REPORTER LADY'S SEGMENT. KXAS IS NOT THE
> ONE
> > AT
> > > FAULT BUT RATHER MIAMI FOR HAVING POOR JUDGEMENT.
> > >
> > Somebody hasn't taken their blood pressure medication
> today.
> > By the way the above explanation is a PR"clap
> > trap"explanation.KXAS is in charge of their own
> facillities.
> > Ask their engineering staff.
> >
> Ed, txfotog is correct. How do I know? I work here. Feel
> free to call me.
>

Interesting so does a friend of mine at the transmitter site.Oh vell...
 
> Interesting so does a friend of mine at the transmitter
> site.Oh vell...

The transmitter was not affected by the hub system. All programming except for live news originates from Miami. They have programming streams out of Miami for 9 markets on the east coast and central U.S. They are also hubbing all graphics production and it is based at KXAS. The people there produce graphics for all eastern and central NBC O&O's. I can hardly wait for the other O&O station groups to start this.
 
> > Interesting so does a friend of mine at the transmitter
> > site.Oh vell...
>
> The transmitter was not affected by the hub system. All
> programming except for live news originates from Miami. They
> have programming streams out of Miami for 9 markets on the
> east coast and central U.S. They are also hubbing all
> graphics production and it is based at KXAS. The people
> there produce graphics for all eastern and central NBC
> O&O's. I can hardly wait for the other O&O station groups to
> start this.
>

Eat that ed! ed, this proves you know NO ONE at the transmitter site. ed you are a blowhard! thanks ranger for backup.
 
Sounds like you'd play an actuality when all hell was breaking loose. What does a message like that say? It it tailored to different type of emergencies?

> > > >
> > > > Anyone still have an older radio on which the dial is
> > > marked
> > > > with a triangle at 640 and 1240 to locate CONELRAD
> > > stations,
> > > > the place to tune for news and official information,
> in
> > > case
> > > > of an actual emergency.
> > > >
> > > And do you remember having to dump the carrier during
> the
> > > test. Off 5 seconds...on 5 seconds...off 5
> seconds...then
> >
> > > back on....if memory serves...its been a while since way
>
> > > back then.
> > >
> > ...yes, and pray it came back up after all the on/off
> > exchanges!
> >
> > anybody ever have to record one of the infamous EBS
> > actuality carts.
> > pretty scarry stuff.
> > CONELRAD...there's a word from the past too! Can you
> > imagine maintaining a Conelrad transmitter that never saw
> > the light o' day.
> >
> Once heard an ersatz alert cart a jock in Nacogdoches
> recorded. Urban legend of the station says an on-air guy
> once played it in the studio, thinking the channel was in
> audition but it was in program instead. Actually heard the
> cart played in the production room but don't know if the
> story of it getting on air was true.
>
 
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