Ed Scarborough is out

[michaelshiloh]

Thank you. It's Time and Kevin!

 

[its time w (your name)]

its time w (your name) = soloflyr1? Common knowledge, I thought. Anyway~

Pop quiz: who played the World Series last year? top of your head?

"Common knowledge." all relative. When do you not season crawfish? I know people who consider that common knowledge.

we should all enjoy a praline and smile.

...as for the BTTW saying... This makes sense to me.. I just googled it and this is what I found..

The expression comes from the world of military aviation. In many planes, control sticks are topped with a ball-shaped grip. One such control is the throttle—to get maximum power you push it all the way forward, to the front of the cockpit, or firewall (so-called because it prevents an engine fire from reaching the rest of the plane). Another control is the joystick—pushing it forward sends a plane into a dive. So, literally pushing the balls to the (fire)wall would put a plane into a maximum-speed dive, and figuratively going balls to the wall is doing something all-out, with maximum effort. The phrase is essentially the aeronautical equivalent of the automotive "pedal to the metal."

read it for yourself at http://www.slate.com/id/2136001/

Kevin, you're not just entertaining, you're educational. So BTTW, has nothing to do with your huevos, huh? In that case I'm using it in mixed company. If someone challenges it, I'll invoke "common knowledge." j/k, AT.

 

[soloflyr1]

Hey Aunti,

Nope I am not the same person as It's Your Time, while he has many different voices running through his head, mine isn't one of them.

Not knocking It's Your Time, he is a hoot to hang with, just want to clarify that we are 2 different people.

Heck, It's Your Time can wear you out just sitting & watching him bounce off the studio walls, full of energy & rapid fire conversation.

 

[walter1]

The factors involved in the old battles between Houston's ac/easy listening stations have been adequately addressed, I think to sufficiently refute any claims that Ed shipwrecked anyone's station. And I've never
heard any silly nicknames slung his way either.

What I have heard is even from people who disagree with his programming philosophies, as well as some who have had personal disagreements with him. He has a strong personality, and is likely to anger someone along the way occasionally. He's stubborn, intense, and has chosen the wrong words with some of my friends. He openly brags about the San Antonio Spurs-- which is deplorable.

But Ed Scarborough is a balls-to-the-wall programmer, relentless workaholic, and puts himself to the same standard he holds his jocks. He has a sense of right and wrong, is very principled, and if you work for him, he cares about you, your wife, your kids, your personal well-being. He will stop and listen, and will put aside the corporate crap to talk one on one when you need. He doesnt always tell you what you want to hear, but damn if Im not better for knowing him. And He will praise and thank you for good work. If I worked for him again, we'd argue just like before sometimes, but I would work for him again, and you can bet those boots he'll land somewhere good, and he will be successful.

I dont know about anybody elses axes, but three people he has fired have spoken up here, and all three have expressed respect for Ed. He's a good guy. He's a competent leader.

Are you the guy that privately emailed me pretending to be Ed and then bailed on the conversation when I offered a reunion with ex-KLTR employees to set the record straight?

 

[walter1]

Whoops, replied in the wrong thread. D'oh!

So what great band!!!!

 

[Kevinc]

[/quote]Are you the guy that privately emailed me pretending to be Ed and then bailed on the conversation when I offered a reunion with ex-KLTR employees to set the record straight?
[/quote]

Walter....snap out of it... the guy who emailed you is the real Ed Scarborough. I know him.. I've spoken with him...just yesterday in fact. In addition as you offer to reunite his former co-workers, consider this.. I am one of them.. there were also about 8 or 10 of us at last year's radio reunion who were thrilled to be back together again because we all agreed that our time at KLite was something special to us... You may have a disgruntled sales person or two who also have an axe to grind...but his air staff doesn't.. at least not the full timers that I know personally. He didn't bail on your conversation... he just decided to not stoop to your level and continue a senseless conversation with a man who did not want to listen.

I think I'm done ranting now... so I too shall bale!

Kevin c

 

[its time w (your name)]

Are you the guy that privately emailed me pretending to be Ed and then bailed on the conversation when I offered a reunion with ex-KLTR employees to set the record straight?

bless your heart. Why YES, Walter, I have this big secret dill where I impersonate Ed Scarborough (actually not a big stretch, hahahahahaha...), then I go online pretending to be one of his gruntled (opposite of dis-gruntled) ex jocks, whom he fired but still has good things to say about him, you know-- being my own wingman. All of this helps me pick up chicks, who dig my Scarborough get-up.

But sometimes I just hang out in clubs passing myself off as Eric Estrada or Fez on That 70s Show.

I also do Cher and Bette Midler.

so I too shall bale!

You're making hay, Kevin?


Hay, come to think of it, in seriousness, the wife was "Cher" for a cousin's costume party. You should have seen my "Sonny." It was scary close. Parker saw it.

 

[walter1]

Are you the guy that privately emailed me pretending to be Ed and then bailed on the conversation when I offered a reunion with ex-KLTR employees to set the record straight?
[/quote]

Walter....snap out of it... the guy who emailed you is the real Ed Scarborough. I know him.. I've spoken with him...just yesterday in fact. In addition as you offer to reunite his former co-workers, consider this.. I am one of them.. there were also about 8 or 10 of us at last year's radio reunion who were thrilled to be back together again because we all agreed that our time at KLite was something special to us... You may have a disgruntled sales person or two who also have an axe to grind...but his air staff doesn't.. at least not the full timers that I know personally. He didn't bail on your conversation... he just decided to not stoop to your level and continue a senseless conversation with a man who did not want to listen.

I think I'm done ranting now... so I too shall bale!

Kevin c
[/quote] A good choice to bail, not bale because then you'd be working with hay. There are no disgruntled sales people involved, there are people who were there thru the entire time pre and post Ed, that's my source and I'm sticking to it. And if that was TRULY Ed then why did he bail when I offered him the opportunity to confront his accusers? But look on the bright side, for a moment the forum was about something other than "clear channel sucks". ;D Radio sucks, it's all the fault of the bean counters etc.
There was a time when you might have been able to make a case that radio was some sort of "art" form, that idea died about 50 years ago. Unless you see something terribly gifted about being able to read a liner card I'd hardly call anything I hear "art". It is and it has always been about making money. Perhaps you can point me to a time when radio was a philanthropic enterprise? The only reason the radio greats we remember were on the air is because they made money for the stations. If you think that harsh I'm sorry but it is the truth.

 

[Kevinc]

Radio is like any other business.. the idea is to make money... that I can agree with...and yes Walter I agree with you on something.. but, there has been plenty of philanthropy in the past.. maybe not by the business as a whole but plenty of stations with which I have been associated have devoted valuable programming hours to help a variety of charitable organizations and individuals too. Toy drives at Christmas time.. Radiothon (Coxradio does it every december) raises funds for Texas Children's Hospital to help "Cure Kids Cancer" I've worked tirelessly on helping the Lukemia Society, March of Dimes, Jerrys Kids (MDA), SPCA, and countless other organizations.. not to mention helping promote and staff events which raised funds for police officers both wounded and fallen, cancer patients, or victims of various tragic situations.... we've also banded together as a community of stations to gather relief supplies for tornado, hurricane and earthquake victims.. oh yes, we did it for the tsunami victims too.. and then there's supplies and other things we help organize to send to soldiers stationed overseas who are fighting to preserve our freedoms and keep us safe. Just the stations I have worked with have (as a group) built houses for Habitat for humanity... cleaned up neighborhoods and made sandwiches for hungry children.. some of us do it on a continuing basis, but the staff as a whole participated too.

And yes I know that some of those things are done in order to bring media attention to the stations, but no matter what the motive, the work got done...

So yes I think we have practiced philanthropy over the years...

In closing.. and i hope for the last time...

the man who emailed you privately and asked you to keep it private, was the real Ed Scarborough.. His timeline and yours don't match... he was there, you were not. I was there for much of the time.. you were not. Fellow staffers from that time period who were there longer than I was are emailing me supporting me in my backing of Ed...welcoming a reunion if thats what is needed to set the record straight.. We are not hiding our sources...we'll proudly tell you who we are and when we worked with the man. If you have a list of " his accusers" send it to me..... either reply with a private message here on Radio-Info or email me at [email protected]. I would love to know where you have been misled. We're not saying he's perfect... In fact if you'll re-read previous posts from those who have worked with Ed, you'll see that he can be tough to work for at times.. but he's good at what he does. Has he ever had a bad book? Sure I bet he has.. Was it all his fault when it happend.. Probably not.

Thats it.. I am not bailing on a conversation (spelled it right this time..) I am just tired of beating a dead horse...
Thanks
Kevinc

 

[ChuckTiller]

...... I am just tired of beating a dead horse...
Thanks
Kevinc

Besides, Mr Ed wouldn't like that. The horse, that is.

 

[walter1]

Radio is like any other business.. the idea is to make money... that I can agree with...and yes Walter I agree with you on something.. but, there has been plenty of philanthropy in the past.. maybe not by the business as a whole but plenty of stations with which I have been associated have devoted valuable programming hours to help a variety of charitable organizations and individuals too. Toy drives at Christmas time.. Radiothon (Coxradio does it every december) raises funds for Texas Children's Hospital to help "Cure Kids Cancer" I've worked tirelessly on helping the Lukemia Society, March of Dimes, Jerrys Kids (MDA), SPCA, and countless other organizations.. not to mention helping promote and staff events which raised funds for police officers both wounded and fallen, cancer patients, or victims of various tragic situations.... we've also banded together as a community of stations to gather relief supplies for tornado, hurricane and earthquake victims.. oh yes, we did it for the tsunami victims too.. and then there's supplies and other things we help organize to send to soldiers stationed overseas who are fighting to preserve our freedoms and keep us safe. Just the stations I have worked with have (as a group) built houses for Habitat for humanity... cleaned up neighborhoods and made sandwiches for hungry children.. some of us do it on a continuing basis, but the staff as a whole participated too.

And yes I know that some of those things are done in order to bring media attention to the stations, but no matter what the motive, the work got done...

So yes I think we have practiced philanthropy over the years...

In closing.. and i hope for the last time...

the man who emailed you privately and asked you to keep it private, was the real Ed Scarborough.. His timeline and yours don't match... he was there, you were not. I was there for much of the time.. you were not. Fellow staffers from that time period who were there longer than I was are emailing me supporting me in my backing of Ed...welcoming a reunion if thats what is needed to set the record straight.. We are not hiding our sources...we'll proudly tell you who we are and when we worked with the man. If you have a list of " his accusers" send it to me..... either reply with a private message here on Radio-Info or email me at [email protected]. I would love to know where you have been misled. We're not saying he's perfect... In fact if you'll re-read previous posts from those who have worked with Ed, you'll see that he can be tough to work for at times.. but he's good at what he does. Has he ever had a bad book? Sure I bet he has.. Was it all his fault when it happend.. Probably not.

Thats it.. I am not bailing on a conversation (spelled it right this time..) I am just tired of beating a dead horse...
Thanks
Kevinc

Kev; you have every right to your "opinion" as do I...I was here for the whole thing, I've been in the market since 72 and most likely was in radio before you were born. I know my sources, they are men of integrity. KLTR was one of the top three billing stations in the market prior to Ed's arrival, they out billed his station in LA about ten to one, they were the highest billing station in the chain. That's hardly a station in the pits. They had 3 ae's who BY THEMSELVES out billed Ed's station in L.A.
I suppose there are times great PD's get fired but basically it has always seemed to me that if you had the ratings you kept your job much like if sales people have the billing they keep their jobs.
As to the salute to the philanthropy of radio. Yes we will take a day, maybe even a week and devote it to something good but if you think the motives are altruistic you're nuts, it's just good P.R.
And congrats on your spelling ;D If you want to argue some more I'm here for ya! Otherwise let the horse go to the glue factory.

 

[aunti-terrestrial]

This thread has take a turn for the bizarre. Kevin, pretty much bravo to everything you said here:

Radio is like any other business.. the idea is to make money... that I can agree with...and yes Walter I agree with you on something.. but, there has been plenty of philanthropy in the past.. maybe not by the business as a whole but plenty of stations with which I have been associated have devoted valuable programming hours to help a variety of charitable organizations and individuals too. Toy drives at Christmas time.. Radiothon (Coxradio does it every december) raises funds for Texas Children's Hospital to help "Cure Kids Cancer" I've worked tirelessly on helping the Lukemia Society, March of Dimes, Jerrys Kids (MDA), SPCA, and countless other organizations.. not to mention helping promote and staff events which raised funds for police officers both wounded and fallen, cancer patients, or victims of various tragic situations.... we've also banded together as a community of stations to gather relief supplies for tornado, hurricane and earthquake victims.. oh yes, we did it for the tsunami victims too.. and then there's supplies and other things we help organize to send to soldiers stationed overseas who are fighting to preserve our freedoms and keep us safe. Just the stations I have worked with have (as a group) built houses for Habitat for humanity... cleaned up neighborhoods and made sandwiches for hungry children.. some of us do it on a continuing basis, but the staff as a whole participated too.

And yes I know that some of those things are done in order to bring media attention to the stations, but no matter what the motive, the work got done...

So yes I think we have practiced philanthropy over the years...

Here it gets bizarre...Kevinc, don't get sucked into artificial drama, no good ever comes of it.

In closing.. and i hope for the last time...

the man who emailed you privately and asked you to keep it private, was the real Ed Scarborough.. His timeline and yours don't match... he was there, you were not. I was there for much of the time.. you were not. Fellow staffers from that time period who were there longer than I was are emailing me supporting me in my backing of Ed...welcoming a reunion if thats what is needed to set the record straight.. We are not hiding our sources...we'll proudly tell you who we are and when we worked with the man. If you have a list of " his accusers" send it to me..... either reply with a private message here on Radio-Info or email me at [email protected]. I would love to know where you have been misled. We're not saying he's perfect... In fact if you'll re-read previous posts from those who have worked with Ed, you'll see that he can be tough to work for at times.. but he's good at what he does. Has he ever had a bad book? Sure I bet he has.. Was it all his fault when it happend.. Probably not.

 

[Kevinc]

As I said I've said what I had to say. I know what I know... and I admitted that radio's philanthropy was mostly for PR purposes but I pointed out that it still got the work done. Walter. Have a nice life and perhaps someday you will see something good in it.

Kevinc

 

[walter1]

Kev i've had a wonderful life, far better than I deserve. I enjoyed 35+ years in the radio business, made a ton of friends and still have most of them. I see much good in the world, the source of that good however is not ultimately radio. ;D

 

[its time w (your name)]

I agree with AT, this longer this thread goes, the more bizarre it becomes. I find it strange when someone has
enough unrequitted un-love to spend this much energy creating & maintaining so much drama. I'm beginning to wonder if this is actually an ex-wife posting.

I suppose there are times great PD's get fired but basically it has always seemed to me that if you had the ratings you kept your job much like if sales people have the billing they keep their jobs.

... and that tells me its been a while since you've worked in the biz.

I'll go back now to my regular social schedule, (and my football board) including my fabulous Ed Scarborough impersonations. Get enough drinks in me, and maybe I'll do Charo for you.