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Ed Schultz Show goes to Crawford Wednesday and Thursday

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bierkenstock

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From Ed Schultz' website:
<blockquote>
The Ed Schultz Show goes to Crawford

The Ed Schultz Show will be heading to Crawford Texas to broadcast its Wednesday and Thursday show a few miles from Camp Casey, Raw Story has learned.

According to Ed Schultz, the host of the Ed Schultz show and one of the biggest voices in progressive radio, the show is going to show support for Cindy Sheehan. "We are going for our listeners, there are a lot of people from across the country who want to be [in Crawford, Texas] but can't be there," said Schultz in a conversation with Raw Story earlier today.

Cindy Sheehan, the mother of fallen solider Casey Sheehan - killed in Iraq in April 2004 - has spent the last ten days holding vigil near the Crawford, Texas ranch of President Bush, who has taken a five week vacation.
</blockquote>
 
Mike Gallagher and listeners return home after trip to Crawford last Friday

From Mike Gallagher's website:

"When we got to the protest area outside the president's ranch, we stood alongside the road and sang patriotic songs, waved our flags, and said supportive things about the troops and their commander-in-chief. Then we got back in our bus and went home.

At no point would we have ever considered antagonizing or confronting Cindy Sheehan. She's suffered enough. All Americans mourn her loss. We just strongly disagree with her accusation that President Bush "killed (her) son." In fact, when a couple of reporters asked me if I would go over to the anti-war protest site and confront them, I asked why in the world I would do that. That wasn't our intent at all. I didn't even want to meet her, and if I had, I would have only told her how sorry I was for her loss." ... more
 
Re: Mike Gallagher and listeners return home after trip to Crawford last Friday

And all this pertains to radio how?<P ID="signature">______________
• K5ZN</P>
 
Re: Mike Gallagher and listeners return home after trip to Crawford last Friday

> And all this pertains to radio how?
>

Ed Schultz and Mike Gallagher are talk show hosts. On the radio.
 
He has listeners?

Who is "Ed Gallagher"?

Mike Gallagher wants people to enjoy freedom but not exercise it.

As far as talk radio is concerned, he is nonentity - a minor leaguer. He is carried by Salem Radio, a bottom of the barrel operation supported by preachers buying brokered airtime, consistently ranking at the bottom in every market in which they play. Gallagher is so bad that Salem's owned and operated station in Philadelphia bumps him to the middle of the night so they can carry Laura Ingraham from a competing syndicator.

> From Ed Gallagher's website:
>
 
Boy does he have listeners!

> Mike Gallagher wants people to enjoy freedom but not exercise it.

That's a political opinion. You might want to post that in a more appropriate place.

> As far as talk radio is concerned, he is nonentity - a minor
> leaguer.

And you have just demonstrated how little you know about the radio business better than I ever could.

Here are the Top Twenty Talk Hosts in the country by AUDIENCE size, not personal opinion. And this is not some conservative bloggers list, but the list of Talkers Magazine , the dominant trade magazine for ALL of talk radio, not just conservative talk radio.

1) Rush Limbaugh 14.75 million
2) Sean Hannity 13+ million
tie 3) Howard Stern 8.25+ million
tie 3) Michael Savage 8.25+ million
4) Dr. Laura Schlessinger 7.50+ million
5) Laura Ingram 5.0+ million
6) Jim Bohannon 3.75+ million
<font color=red>tie 7) Mike Gallagher 3.50+ million</font>
tie 7) Neal Boortz 3.50+ million
8) Clark Howard 3.25+
tie 9)Glenn Beck 3.0+ million
tie 9)Don Imus 3.0+ million
tie 9)Bill O'Reilly 3.0+ million
tie 9)Doug Stephan 3.0+ million
tie 10) Dr. Joy Brown 2.75+ million
tie 10) George Noory 2.75+ million
tie 11) Kim Komando 2.0+ million
tie 11) Michael Medved 2.0+ million
tie 11)Dave Ramsey 2.0+ million
tie 11)Jim Rome 2.0+ million

>He is carried by Salem Radio, a bottom of the barrel operation supported by preachers buying brokered airtime.

Well, it's a Christian organization if that's what you mean. And as you demonstrated, they endure a lot of prejudice because of that.
 
Re: Mike Gallagher and listeners return home after trip to Crawford last Friday

Why would I be surprised that a left wing blogger hates Mike Gallagher?

I know you're more of a politician than a radio pro, Doc9464 , so you might want to try reading a professional radio publication to learn more about the business: Talkers.com

I don't quote political blogs which have no bearing on radio unless I can cite a specific connection.
 
Re: Boy does he have listeners!

> > Mike Gallagher wants people to enjoy freedom but not
> exercise it.
>
> That's a political opinion. You might want to post that in a
> more appropriate place.

Pot to kettle. At least wait a few days before you write something like and then in another thread you write: "It's pretty much a bunch of people who get tired of posting on Moveon.org. It will go on for a while until a conservative responds once to often and then the Mod shuts down the thread."

> Here are the Top Twenty Talk Hosts in the country by
> AUDIENCE size, not personal opinion. And this is not some
> conservative bloggers list, but the list of Talkers
> Magazine , the dominant trade magazine for ALL of talk
> radio, not just conservative talk radio.

Gallager is second rate conservatalk. His show, much like O'Reilly, Boortz, Medved, and others typically appears either on a delayed basis or more likely on a second tier AM outlet in a market - the 1-5kw secondary station, usually owned by a major radio group and running satellite talk 24/7. He doesn't even air in my market at all.

> Well, it's a Christian organization if that's what you mean.
> And as you demonstrated, they endure a lot of prejudice
> because of that.

Yeah, they're terribly persecuted. :)
 
Re: Mike Gallagher and listeners return home after trip to Crawford last Friday

> Why would I be surprised that a left wing blogger hates Mike
> Gallagher?
>
> I know you're more of a politician than a radio pro,

Wow, in the very same thread that you said: "That's a political opinion. You might want to post that in a more appropriate place."

I think the thing that upsets a handful of people around here is that they can post their own political views, as you have done, and then get angry when someone calls them on it, particularly in correcting... well, distortions of reality.

The days of people just spouting stuff as fact and not having to worry about someone checking it out and reporting back what is reality and what is rumor-mongering from politically biased news sources are over.
 
Re: Boy does he have listeners!

> > > Mike Gallagher wants people to enjoy freedom but not
> > > exercise it.

> That's a political opinion. You might want to post that in
> a more appropriate place.

> Pot to kettle. At least wait a few days before you write
> something like and then in another thread you write: "It's
> pretty much a bunch of people who get tired of posting on
> Moveon.org. It will go on for a while until a conservative
> responds once to often and then the Mod shuts down the
> thread."

Kettle to drum: My comments actually had something to do with this forum. Your sidekick's comment did not.

> Gallager is second rate conservatalk. His show, much like O'Reilly, Boortz, >Medved, and others typically appears either on a delayed basis or more likely >on a second tier AM outlet in a market - the 1-5kw secondary station, usually >owned by a major radio group and running satellite talk 24/7. He doesn't even > air in my market at all.

I see you are distancing yourself from Bierkenstock's statement that Gallagher has no listeners. Wise move. Now you might want to stop pretending to have any knowledge about what "most" of their stations are like. They are not on the top of the heap because of the markets on which they air on a delayed basis.

> Well, it's a Christian organization if that's what you
> mean. And as you demonstrated, they endure a lot of prejudice
> > because of that.
>
> Yeah, they're terribly persecuted. :)

Try posting your alter ego's comments over on the urban board. Instead of dumping on Salem, say the equivalent about Radio One and see if it's called prejudice:

Bierkenstock: "He is carried by Salem Radio, a bottom of the barrel operation supported by preachers buying brokered airtime"

Try postnig this: "He is carried by Radio One, a bottom of the barrel operation supported by black people buying brokered airtime."
 
Re: Mike Gallagher and listeners return home after trip to Crawford last Friday

> > Why would I be surprised that a left wing blogger hates
> Mike > Gallagher?
> >
> > I know you're more of a politician than a radio pro,
>
> Wow, in the very same thread that you said: "That's a
> political opinion. You might want to post that in a more
> appropriate place."
>
> I think the thing that upsets a handful of people around
> here is that they can post their own political views, as you
> have done, and then get angry when someone calls them on it,
> particularly in correcting... well, distortions of reality.
>
> The days of people just spouting stuff as fact and not
> having to worry about someone checking it out and reporting
> back what is reality and what is rumor-mongering from
> politically biased news sources are over.
>

I am on record as saying that if I were moderating, I would quash any and all poltically incendiary comments, left OR right, and strive for a professional talk radio forum. I lost that argument. Now I'm going for balance. I am only responding to remarks others initiate.
 
Test results

A post was put up, a press release, of an appearance by Ed Shultz in Crawford, Texas. The poster offered no opinion and no countrary opinion showed up.

So I, as a test, posted a similar announcement for Mike Gallagher, also without commentary, about HIS visit to Crawford, Texas.

The results so far: 1) Sarcastic correction of a typo 2) A challenge questioning whether my post had anything to do with radio (despite the fact that it was a mirror image of the post above it about Ed Schultz.) 3) A derisive commentary on the incorrect belief that Gallagher has no sizable audience. 4) a bigoted remark about Salem being a "preachers" network.

It was seized upon by a virtual tag team of tolerance and diversity.
 
Re: Boy does he have listeners!

> Kettle to drum: My comments actually had something to do
> with this forum. Your sidekick's comment did not.

I'm a one man band. I don't need sidekicks. My posts stand on their own and represent my own opinions.

> I see you are distancing yourself from Bierkenstock's
> statement that Gallagher has no listeners. Wise move. Now
> you might want to stop pretending to have any knowledge
> about what "most" of their stations are like. They are not
> on the top of the heap because of the markets on which they
> air on a delayed basis.

I don't need to "distance myself" from anything. Every talkshow has some listeners. If you look at this guy's affiliate list, you'll see most of his stations are exactly as I described. He's not good enough for the 50kw Limbaugh outlet, but he'll do okay on the 1-5kw AM running the likes of O'Reilly, Ingraham, Medved, and friends. He's a tier two host. If there is a top 5 show running live at the same time his show is airing, guess which one gets the live clearance or ends up on the lower powered outlet.

Ask someone on the street who Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh is, they know. Ask someone if they know who Gallager is, they'll talk about melons and sledgehammers every time.

> Try posting your alter ego's comments over on the urban
> board. Instead of dumping on Salem, say the equivalent about
> Radio One and see if it's called prejudice:
>
> Bierkenstock: "He is carried by Salem Radio, a bottom of the
> barrel operation supported by preachers buying brokered
> airtime"
>
> Try postnig this: "He is carried by Radio One, a bottom of
> the barrel operation supported by black people buying
> brokered airtime."

This is like Judge Bork complaining about the oppressed white man in America. Ridiculous. Just like the myth of a liberal media and oppressed conservative hosts never getting on MSM (while saying it on their MSM shows), your suggestion that someone commenting on a Christian station surviving on the "dollar a holler" format is somehow prejudiced is ridiculous.

The educational FM band is absolutely polluted by repeaters and stations that carry nothing but satellite religion and brokered programming, whose idea of local content is a pre-recorded legal ID mentioning the city of license. The commercial brokered content stations, religious or otherwise, turn in dismal ratings. That's not prejudiced, that's simply reality, and it doesn't matter if its ethnic, religious, or political.

I will give Salem this - at least it's not as nutty as some of the "patriot radio" networks that used to be confined to brokered time on shortwave outlets. These people are absolutely crrrazy, and if they're not on about the Zionist Banking Conspiracy, then it's back to New World Order takeover plans.
 
Re: Mike Gallagher and listeners return home after trip to Crawford last Friday

I particularly like his uniform:

> From Mike Gallagher's website:

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He looks like a doorman.<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: Mike Gallagher and listeners return home after trip to Crawford last Friday

> I particularly like his uniform:
>
> > From Mike Gallagher's website:
>
>
>
> He looks like a doorman.
>

Finally. A sense of humor on this board!

Yes, Gallagher is a goofball, and not the brightest bulb in my opinion.

But then, people don't come to talk radio to get the host's political opinion. Both left and right come to hear someone validate the opinion they already have.
 
Re: Boy does he have listeners!

> I'm a one man band. I don't need sidekicks. My posts stand
> on their own and represent my own opinions.

Your opinions are so similar, and so rapid in response to anything conservative, one has to check the name to know which of the two you are. Especially when you attack my reply to him.

> I don't need to "distance myself" from anything. Every
> talkshow has some listeners.

Not every talk show is the 7th in the USA. That has to do with having ratings success in the big markets, which he has. The rest is wishful thinking.

> Ask someone on the street who Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh is, they know.
> Ask someone if they know who Gallager is, they'll talk about melons and
> sledgehammers every time.

That would have to be an odd street full of old people to think of a marginally successful '80s comic upon hearing the name Gallagher.

> This is like Judge Bork complaining about the oppressed
> white man in America. Ridiculous.

It's a comforting delusion, I'm sure, to imagine that only your enemies are cabable of prejudice.
 
Re: Test results

I did the post about Ed Schultz as information.

Your post was another topic. IMHO it would have been better posted as a separate thread, unless your intent was to derail any discussion of Schultz' Crawford remote.

By comparison the major league conservative hosts, Gallagher has a smaller audience. Pardon my use of hyperbole. Compared to those same major league conservative hosts (Rush, Hannity), IMHO his talent is miniscule.

Salem is a secular for-profit company. Much of their revenue comes from paid religious broadcasts. And their income from this operation allowed them to start their (less-profitable so far) talk radio network. Radio and TV preachers as an aggragate are not an entirely reputable lot (even to many devout Christians). (See Matt 7. v 15-23)

And I notice you spend a lot of time here in what you called (in another thread) "the snake pit." (See Matt 7. v 3-5)
 
Re: Mike Gallagher and listeners return home after trip to Crawford last Friday

> I particularly like his uniform:
>
> > From Mike Gallagher's website:
>
>
>
> He looks like a doorman.
>
I don't care what he says now, I hear him say on WABC that he didn't know why Giulliani went to Kennedy Airport when the TWA jet went down because Kennedy isn't part of NYC. How can you have any respect for such stupidity?
 
Re: Mike Gallagher and listeners return home after trip to Crawford last Friday

> But then, people don't come to talk radio to get the host's
> political opinion. Both left and right come to hear someone
> validate the opinion they already have.

For the most part that's true, although there are a few hosts that court dissenting views. Plus, I think sharing an opinion with a host only gets the listener there to start. Otherwise every conservative host would have Limbaugh's numbers and AAR's ratings wouldn't be so poor.
 
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