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Ed Schultz slams Clear Channel Cincinnati

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Ed Schultz as of this writing is in the midst of a 20-minute + attack on stations that do a poor job with his show, featuring WSAI/WCKY for repeated dead air, multiple program sources at once, show starting late etc. The rant started with a complimentary letter from management of a station in Tuscaloosa/Muscle Shoals sayng Schultz took their afternoon timeslot, following Rush Limbaugh to number one talk station. Before it was over he called out Darrel Parks by name.

Right now they have pulled off Ed Schultz and put on Randy Furman.
 
Are you saying they should pull Schultz for speaking the truth? There have been many posts here saying the exact same thing. I don't think that one of the people who's livelihood is at stake should be punished for saying it out loud.
 
There is a line about "biting the hand that feeds you". Wasn't randi Rhodes attacking Darryl Parks by name calling him a liar for saying the transmitter fire was not a Republican plot?

What did Randy Fuhrman have to say?
 
gr8oldies said:
There is a line about "biting the hand that feeds you". Wasn't randi Rhodes attacking Darryl Parks by name calling him a liar for saying the transmitter fire was not a Republican plot?

What did Randy Fuhrman have to say?
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Isn't Darryl Park ....Randy Furman in charactor??
 
Heard Eddie's rant today....actually I heard it on KQWB out of Fargo. Certainly was arrogant and pompous. May or may not have been inappropriate. But everything he said was right-on! Also sounds like he's got a legitimate beef with CC over yanking him from KFGO in Fargo. According to Ed, trading Ed's 15 for the next guy's 4 was worth it to the local and regional CC suits.
 
I heard just about his entire show today, including the rants against Daryll Parks, named specifically responsible for the Cincinnati marketing/engineering fiasco the past couple years....it was great.

No one should be allowed a pass on the crappy production value Clear Channel has given Air America in Cincinnati since it started.

Theres just no excuse for 30+ minutes of simultaneous dual broadcasting sources. That tells me that no one was at the helm.

Parks sucks. He needs to move on.
 
I don't normally visit this board (no ties to Cincinnati) but saw the thread scrolling by on the main page and thought it looked interesting.

This is a theory from way out in left field - and not especially likely - but it's possible the Prophet NexGen system that's running this station is running a very old version of the software. Way back when it was a new product, its execution of clocks was a bit buggy and one of the symptoms was having two network sources on at the same time.

You could build perfect clocks, but the software would ignore some commands (like turning certain sources off.) This was corrected in later versions of the software.

I experienced this problem with NexGen (strangely enough) in 2002 while I was chief engineer at WVNA - the Alabama station he was apparently praising before tearing into WCKY. It was owned by Clear Channel at the time.

How's that for coincidence?
 
As far as I know (what the engineers tell me) we have the most up to date version of NexGen.
I don't work for 700 so I don't know the details of what goes on over there, but I am in the "Death Star" here in Kenwood.
 
punchbuggy said:
Are you saying they should pull Schultz for speaking the truth? There have been many posts here saying the exact same thing. I don't think that one of the people who's livelihood is at stake should be punished for saying it out loud.
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If Schultz is right about the myriad of technical problems, it is surprising they would have heard it long enough to pull it. One has to wonder if they are listening to their own programming, they'd actually notice and intervene when technical problems arise, but considering they apparently aren't, it sounds more like this is an ignored turnkey autopilot operation. And who is the station protecting when they replace his show? Certainly not the listeners. Sounds like someone at the station needs to move on.
 
Comment: I've listened when the station was on the more powerful 1530 frequency. As far as I'm concerned, it's a complete joke!

The automation software would do all kinds of crazy things, such as air two programs at a time, broadcast satellite-delivered news or actuality feeds as they came in (once listened to Lionel meshed with occasional cut-ins of ABC news actualities - this went on sporadically for at least an HOUR). Liners would air for several minutes back-to-back. Shows abruptly cut off. Lots of dead air. The wrong shows aired (I recently heard the live feed of "Majority Report" from AAR instead of the scheduled tape-delayed Randi Rhodes one evening). Anything that could possibly go wrong has gone wrong with WSAI/WCKY. This is an embarassment! And Clear Channel-Cincinnati wonders why ratings have been somewhat weak compared to other stations with a similar format.

I'm sure nothing's changed since they moved programming to the lesser-powered WSAI.

For a company like Clear Channel in a big market where they own so many stations, they should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this to happen. Somebody should send in a computer tech to see what's going on.
 
On my trips to Cincinnati, I have noticed the same double programming going on when the station was on 1530. And the news all jacked up. I didn't see any billboard/bus advertising for Clear Channel's "Progressive Talk", but seen quite a few billboards/bus for their right wing talkers. Seems to me someone at the local level is just trying to choke it off because they don't believe in the "PROGRESSIVE" clear channel programming.
 
RBA said:
On my trips to Cincinnati, I have noticed the same double programming going on when the station was on 1530. And the news all jacked up. I didn't see any billboard/bus advertising for Clear Channel's "Progressive Talk", but seen quite a few billboards/bus for their right wing talkers. Seems to me someone at the local level is just trying to choke it off because they don't believe in the "PROGRESSIVE" clear channel programming.
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I don't think they'd put it on if they didn't think it would work somehow.

My thoughts are that it's an afterthought for one of their signals, devoted fans will listen anyway, and they can sell a pretty stacked talk radio cluster to advertisers. On top of it all, it's all syndicated shows (sorry CC, Springer doesn't count as 'local').

CC is trying to run many of their progressive talkers as cheaply as possible. I don't even think they care as long as they can sell advertising on it. They just have no pride in their on-air product.
 
Prophet certainly isn't perfect - in fact, I'd say its Achilles heel is satellite automation. It does automated music formats really well, with remote VT and everything, but I've heard way too many Clear Channel news talkers that sound like crap because of automation blunders.

The biggest problems I've heard recently are with shows that are pre-recorded by the automation. The DRR or "Digital Reel to Reel" doesn't record the times for the contact closures accurately. Our local CC news talker airs several hours of Dr. Dean Edell on the weekend, and it's fed live M-F in one hour blocks. The timing for the breaks and local liners is always waaaay off. This is fairly common with the Prophet DRR.

Are they tape delaying Schultz or carrying him live?

You can work with Prophet and eventually get a good sounding product, but it does take time - and actually listening to the product in real time as it airs.

Of course, that's a solid plan for any automated programming... Set it up, then give it a listen as it executes to make sure everything is going as planned.
 
ElCheapo said:
Prophet certainly isn't perfect - in fact, I'd say its Achilles heel is satellite automation. It does automated music formats really well, with remote VT and everything, but I've heard way too many Clear Channel news talkers that sound like crap because of automation blunders.

The biggest problems I've heard recently are with shows that are pre-recorded by the automation. The DRR or "Digital Reel to Reel" doesn't record the times for the contact closures accurately. Our local CC news talker airs several hours of Dr. Dean Edell on the weekend, and it's fed live M-F in one hour blocks. The timing for the breaks and local liners is always waaaay off. This is fairly common with the Prophet DRR.

Are they tape delaying Schultz or carrying him live?

You can work with Prophet and eventually get a good sounding product, but it does take time - and actually listening to the product in real time as it airs.

Of course, that's a solid plan for any automated programming... Set it up, then give it a listen as it executes to make sure everything is going as planned.
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Ed Shultz and Air America is simply a horrible product, period, end of story. The conspiracy theories from these clowns and clowns on this board are very tiring. It wasn't George Bush, Bill Cunningham, or little green men that got the show taken off the air, it was the simple fact that no one listened to the station, even with Jerry Springer. The station never should have been put on the air anyway from a ratings and revenue standpoint, oldies was doing well on the station, especially compared to the crap on Air America. It was put on due to political pressure from democrats and Jesse Jackson who I believe is or was on the board of Clear Channel. Honestly had Daryl Parks been truly against the format he would have killed it completely.

Ed Shultz complaining about losing an affiliate in some grand conspiracy theory is unprofessional, tacky, boring to people who don't listen to Bill Boshears, and a reason why AAR only could muster a .9 rating.
 
titoisradio said:
ElCheapo said:
Prophet certainly isn't perfect - in fact, I'd say its Achilles heel is satellite automation. It does automated music formats really well, with remote VT and everything, but I've heard way too many Clear Channel news talkers that sound like crap because of automation blunders.

The biggest problems I've heard recently are with shows that are pre-recorded by the automation. The DRR or "Digital Reel to Reel" doesn't record the times for the contact closures accurately. Our local CC news talker airs several hours of Dr. Dean Edell on the weekend, and it's fed live M-F in one hour blocks. The timing for the breaks and local liners is always waaaay off. This is fairly common with the Prophet DRR.

Are they tape delaying Schultz or carrying him live?

You can work with Prophet and eventually get a good sounding product, but it does take time - and actually listening to the product in real time as it airs.

Of course, that's a solid plan for any automated programming... Set it up, then give it a listen as it executes to make sure everything is going as planned.
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Ed Shultz and Air America is simply a horrible product, period, end of story. The conspiracy theories from these clowns and clowns on this board are very tiring. It wasn't George Bush, Bill Cunningham, or little green men that got the show taken off the air, it was the simple fact that no one listened to the station, even with Jerry Springer. The station never should have been put on the air anyway from a ratings and revenue standpoint, oldies was doing well on the station, especially compared to the crap on Air America. It was put on due to political pressure from democrats and Jesse Jackson who I believe is or was on the board of Clear Channel. Honestly had Daryl Parks been truly against the format he would have killed it completely.

Ed Shultz complaining about losing an affiliate in some grand conspiracy theory is unprofessional, tacky, boring to people who don't listen to Bill Boshears, and a reason why AAR only could muster a .9 rating.
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They hate us for our freedom.

Must be tough being forced to listen to it with that gun pointed to your head. ::)
 
Darryl Parks blasted back at Schultz this morning on his show, playing the "Darryl Parks Sucks" clip from Schultz's show several times. Of course, just where else is Schultz going to take his show in the Cincy market? He might have wanted to keep that in mind before doing a tirade against the man who has the power to pull his show completely off the air.
 
If Darryl had to get up early for his Saturday morning show, presumably he slept through the Lionel vs. Mike Malloy battle of the talk show hosts that ran for at least 20 minutes at 12:05 am. Eventually Malloy won. I can't tell which one was the champion and which one was the challenger because WSAI's website doesn't list any program for this hour of the day.
 
I also heard Daryll whine about Ed Schultz calling him out.

One thing I noticed is that, during the part of the show I listened to, he never once mentioned why Ed was complaining. You know..the dead air...double program feeds....endless bumper music...no commercials.

Thats just like Parks, dodging Ed's points completely.

I also heard the Lionel vs Mike Molloy battle. I listened about 10 minutes just to see if it would get fixed....nope.

They really should consider having someone on staff who listens to the show while their at work.
 
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