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Ed Schultz to MSNBC?

I would hope so. He is probably the best of the liberal talkers. He appeals to the heartland better than others and makes a lot of sense. I can identify with him very well, since I am a former conservative.
 
I saw his show. It was okay to good, mostly good.

He took an unnecessary pot-shot at Glenn Beck. He said something nonsensical like, "It's was as cold as 0-degrees, higher than Glenn Beck's IQ." No logic or reason to attack someone. No context or other mention of Glenn.

Glenn Beck towers over this chimp and most of those other mugs on MSNBC- "the network with all the call signs but no viewers" and is probably 100x more interesting than that OlberDORK- the guy that just reads Media Matters and Move-on talking points.
 
Schultz appears to be the most insecure guy on the radio. He can not go five minutes without whining about another host.
 
Don62 said:
Glenn Beck towers over this chimp and most of those other mugs on MSNBC- "the network with all the call signs but no viewers" and is probably 100x more interesting than that OlberDORK- the guy that just reads Media Matters and Move-on talking points.
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:D "No logic or reason to attack someone"
 
Nate Wesley said:
Don62 said:
Glenn Beck towers over this chimp and most of those other mugs on MSNBC- "the network with all the call signs but no viewers" and is probably 100x more interesting than that OlberDORK- the guy that just reads Media Matters and Move-on talking points.
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:D "No logic or reason to attack someone"
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That network's evening programming is full of attacks.
That's all that Olber-Dork can do is go after his superiors. He can't do a show without viciously attacking "the evil right wing media."

Olberdork probably has 600 attacks in each show, so he can certainly take criticism as he dishes it out like nobody's diareha of the mouth...
Matthews, while leftist, is more balanced as are some others, but Olberdork is the poster child for flunking students for low intelligence scores.
 
Whew! It's like y'all lost an election or two...

The Radical Rightwing had both radio & cable TV to itself for the better part of 20 years and it helped elect an administration that ran roughshod over the economy, the constitution and the separation of powers among the three branches of government. Good work, guys!

It must be infuriating to have watched all that slip away the past few years and recognize that a burgeoning progressive side of the media--both on-air & on-line--continues to grow as a reflection of the majority of Americans who disagree with you.

Schultz has established himself as a solid talent in radio, and he'll make an excellent addition to MSNBC's lineup of outstanding progressive TV personalities.

But don't despair or try to beat up on MSNBC too much. It is still a sign of NBC's caution that they continue to feature rightwinger Joe Scarborough every morning. Joe was my congressman down in Florida years ago, and I'll testify that there is no mistaking him as a liberal.

In fact, if you all were thinking clearly, you'd be pushing "Morning Joe" to run for president in 2012. He's far and away your best bet.
 
amfmxm said:
Whew! It's like y'all lost an election or two...

The Radical Rightwing had both radio & cable TV to itself for the better part of 20 years and it helped elect an administration that ran roughshod over the economy, the constitution and the separation of powers among the three branches of government. Good work, guys!

It must be infuriating to have watched all that slip away the past few years and recognize that a burgeoning progressive side of the media--both on-air & on-line--continues to grow as a reflection of the majority of Americans who disagree with you.

Schultz has established himself as a solid talent in radio, and he'll make an excellent addition to MSNBC's lineup of outstanding progressive TV personalities.

But don't despair or try to beat up on MSNBC too much. It is still a sign of NBC's caution that they continue to feature rightwinger Joe Scarborough every morning. Joe was my congressman down in Florida years ago, and I'll testify that there is no mistaking him as a liberal.

In fact, if you all were thinking clearly, you'd be pushing "Morning Joe" to run for president in 2012. He's far and away your best bet.
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Bravo! My thoughts exactly. Plus, you have to think about this: in order to succeed, he has to throw some red meat to the base. Rush and Sean do it on the right, because that's how they get ratings. Ed has to do something to get support from his base audience or he'll flop, and sometimes, a little hyperbole goes a long ways.
 
amfmxm said:
Whew! It's like y'all lost an election or two...

The Radical Rightwing had both radio & cable TV to itself for the better part of 20 years a
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In your name-calling, you got your facts wrong.
The right wing hasn't dominated cable TV now or 20 years ago. One channel for a decade or so doesn't mean dominance.
 
Don62 said:
amfmxm said:
Whew! It's like y'all lost an election or two...

The Radical Rightwing had both radio & cable TV to itself for the better part of 20 years a
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In your name-calling, you got your facts wrong.
The right wing hasn't dominated cable TV now or 20 years ago. One channel for a decade or so doesn't mean dominance.
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Name calling? You mean, uh, "radical?" Okay, delete the "radical." The sentiment remains the same.

And let me take gentle exception to your notion that my facts are wrong. For one thing I didn't use the word "dominate." That's your word. But the statement that there had been no national liberal talk radio platform from the mid-eighties to the middle of this decade is simply true. Yes, there was such a platform for the right. Same goes for cable TV.

Nothing inflamatory about that. Just the facts.

And though things are nowhere near "fair & balanced" at this point, it's a bit better. Things have changed.
 
Since you're picking nits here, you said "had" the media.
I don't think anyone would say the right "had" the cable TV medium 20 years ago. I don't think anyone would propose that the right "has" cable today, as there are many more channels than just one news channel.
 
And let me take gentle exception to your notion that my facts are wrong. For one thing I didn't use the word "dominate." That's your word. But the statement that there had been no national liberal talk radio platform from the mid-eighties to the middle of this decade is simply true. Yes, there was such a platform for the right. Same goes for cable TV.

Nothing inflamatory about that. Just the facts.
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Amen. The right used its dominance of opinion programming in the mass media these past twenty or more years to lament its treatment at the hands of “the liberal media”. It’s called “working the refs”, as even über-conservative William Kristol once admitted in a moment of honesty. Of course it had the desired effect on the supposedly “liberal” outlets – a couple of examples being MSNBC’s firing of Phil Donahue from his show before the invasion of Iraq and CBS being scared into dropping a generally friendly Ronald Reagan docudrama because it supposedly contained critical material; in other words, because it didn’t portray the Great Communicator as being all right, all the time.
 
Keith Olberdork has become the p.r. machine for the Obama administration.
Every night, it's "how dare those evil Republicans speak up against this messiah..."
No matter the Obama mistake, Keith is there to rebut it and line-up a dozen reasons why the Republicans are all wet and that Obama's mistakes weren't errors.

Even during the Democratic primaries, Olberdork constantly spoke up for Obama and dissed Hillary.

I can't think of one time where the former sports hack went after or called Obama on something wrong the rookie did.
 
This sounds like the whole exchange should be taken outside, but why have rush, savage, Dr Laura, not made it on TV? Their shows flopped. Limpbaugh bombed twice on TV, if you include his failed colored commentary with the NFL broadcasts.

Why doesn' that schreechy guy that follows hannity get a TV show? We need more ugly people on TV.

Schultz was as good as Hannity and it was his first time.
 
Fine. Sgt. Schultz was great, and was the best TV talk show host ever, right?
I like Schultz, and have heard his show. He certainly isn't the whiner that Randi Rhodes is, and he appears to have a brain, unlike Stephanie "where would my show be without Bill O'Reilly?" Miller.

I don't recall Glenn Beck making unprovoked smarky remarks about Sgt. Schultz.
But taking a gratuitous shot - unprompted - at a superior competitor whose doing a heck of a lot more with his show in trying to warn people about what's coming to this country, seems very low class, if you ask me.
 
Where would Schultz broadcast from? Fargo, NYC, DC or stalag 13? MSNBC repeats too much, Oberman, Madow, etc. They should distinquish his show from the others by broadcasting from an ice fishing shack on a frozen lake.
 
"I don't recall Glenn Beck making unprovoked smarky remarks about Sgt. Schultz.
But taking a gratuitous shot - unprompted - at a superior competitor whose doing a heck of a lot more with his show in trying to warn people about what's coming to this country, seems very low class, if you ask me. "

You need to listen more closely, Don. Beck is a bottom-feeder. He once asked Minnesota congressman Keith Ellison, the only Muslim in congress, how we know that Ellison is not a terrorist. This question was asked with no provocation, and of course, it is impossible for anyone to "prove" a negative or "prove" that anything is untrue. Beck even admitted after the fact that he was out of line, but maybe someone at his level of the business should be smart enough not to go there in the first place.

Just last week, he also suggested on Fox Noise that Obama might be a member of a "sleeper cell". Yeh.....

Any day now, I expect a new flat earth theory.
 
listener-in said:
And let me take gentle exception to your notion that my facts are wrong. For one thing I didn't use the word "dominate." That's your word. But the statement that there had been no national liberal talk radio platform from the mid-eighties to the middle of this decade is simply true. Yes, there was such a platform for the right. Same goes for cable TV.

Nothing inflamatory about that. Just the facts.
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Amen. The right used its dominance of opinion programming in the mass media these past twenty or more years to lament its treatment at the hands of “the liberal media”. It’s called “working the refs”, as even über-conservative William Kristol once admitted in a moment of honesty. Of course it had the desired effect on the supposedly “liberal” outlets – a couple of examples being MSNBC’s firing of Phil Donahue from his show before the invasion of Iraq and CBS being scared into dropping a generally friendly Ronald Reagan docudrama because it supposedly contained critical material; in other words, because it didn’t portray the Great Communicator as being all right, all the time.
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And those incidents make the mainstream media "conservative?"

That's an utterly ridiculous generalization and one that can easily be disproved by MSNBC's blatant Obama kissing.
 
Don62 said:
That's an utterly ridiculous generalization and one that can easily be disproved by MSNBC's blatant Obama kissing.
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I was watching "Morning Joe" on MSNBC for a couple of hours this morning and he sure as hell wasn't doing any "Obama kissing." Scarborough is very critical of Obama--and any Democrat, for that matter.

And that was MSNBC, I was watching. Wasn't it, Don?
 
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