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Ed Sullivan on PBS

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Some things I might not have noticed about the bands origionally:

1) The Four Seasons wore high water pants and looked like 40's crooners

2) The Stones didn't look so scruffy

3) Eric Burden and the Animals did look tough and looked like the blokes who would beat up Herman's Hermits who really looked Hugh Grant goofy

4) The Beach Boys in the stripped button down shirts still looked like guys I couldn't stand

5) The Beach boys in the white suits looked like used car salesmen

6) There were lots of budding comb-overs

7) Jim Morrison was the only one who didn't look like a period piece.He'd look hot today. The rest of the Doors looked as nerdy as all the other bands.

8) Almost everybody was wearing a jacket and tie.


9) Sly stone might have been the beginning of whatever led to michael Jackson and Prince

Thoughts
 
The Stones had to not only look clean, but clean up their act if they wanted to be on Ed Sullivan's show. I would venture a guess that he allowed some rough looks if they didn't cross a line that he established.
 
MsMusicRadio said:
Some things I might not have noticed about the bands origionally:

8) Almost everybody was wearing a jacket and tie.

Thoughts
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"Back in the day", coat and tie were de rigueur - a gentleman was expected to dress for business, church, dates, dinner, yes even classes at university. Ladies also dressed for the occasion.

Today's society may scorn the formality of days of yore, but in looking back I would surmise those days produced citizens with a higher degree of respect not only for others but for themselves.

Times change, as we all do, but I still find myself recoiling from the sight of people at restaurants or night spots or church dressed as though they just stopped in on their way to the beach or a kegger. But - that's just me, old fashioned me. 8)
 
The "Stones" and the "Animals" looked Ruff next to the squeaky clean look of the "Beatles" and the antiseptic "Dave Clark Five". Sullivan loved the Dave Clark V so, that they hold the record for the most appearances on his show. The British Invasion groups were not just great sounding but dressed like we had never seen before...those sounds and the "Carnaby Street" fashions really had an Impression on this 16 year old. The Doors.....kicked off of the Psychedelic Era...talk about scruffy looking acts...Canned Heat, Grateful Dead, ........but I sure loved their music.

I'm with GLB about todays fashions, yuk......Not from a wealthy background , I was embarrassed to wear ripped jeans..........today you can buy (and very expensive, i might add) ripped clothes and frayed caps, and jeans that look like they have never been washed, ..called "distressed wear". But then again, in 1964, if you would have told me that we would be buying water, I wouldn't have believed It. And It is Un-american not to like the Beach Boys :p
 
Ed sullivan was before my time, but I can honestly say, that people seemed to have more class back in then. even those "long hair beatnick" rock and roll singers. If you don't believe me, take a look at the freakshow at peopleofwalmart.com. or better yet just take a short visit to your local grocery store on a saturday afternoon and check out what people are wearing in public these days. Its absoulutly insane what people do these day. some of the clothes, or lack there off, would have gotten you kicked out of the store, or worse back in the day. I am proud to say, I have never owned, and never will own a pair of flip flops. And I especially don't wear short shorts, a cut-off shirt and flip-flops when I go to town. You look just plain trashy when you do that.
 
Some reruns bring fresh, new memories; some reruns are the same old, cheap garbage that has been packaged and peddled through various channels since time immemorial. Discerning talent knows the difference and when or whether to accept it or reject it.
 
Silkie said; Discerning talent knows the difference and when or whether to accept it or reject it.

Silkie, strange wording. By "discerning talent" Do you mean VIEWERS? I guess that's why most pbs stations have to BEG as most folks know better.
 
No, I meant that those who air it know the difference. Do they air it the way someone told them would make money at the cost of audience, or do they do what is right by the audience? I have seen a few places fall for doing what someone told them would make money.
 
PBS? I've seen many more than "a few."

"do what is right by the audience?" WOWEEE, what a concept.

To me it will always be the "pretend broadcasting system."
 
flytrap said:
Ed sullivan was before my time, but I can honestly say, that people seemed to have more class back in then. even those "long hair beatnick" rock and roll singers. If you don't believe me, take a look at the freakshow at peopleofwalmart.com. or better yet just take a short visit to your local grocery store on a saturday afternoon and check out what people are wearing in public these days. Its absoulutly insane what people do these day. some of the clothes, or lack there off, would have gotten you kicked out of the store, or worse back in the day. I am proud to say, I have never owned, and never will own a pair of flip flops. And I especially don't wear short shorts, a cut-off shirt and flip-flops when I go to town. You look just plain trashy when you do that.
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Your (young) age is showing.

Rock n Roll singers (including that clean and polite Elvis) were in a far different category than Beatniks (who were generally thought of as free-love, unwashed loafers who hung out in coffee clubs and listened to bad jazz music and poetry). The closest rock group to the Beatnik look would probably be the Byrds of the mid-60's.

As for flip-flops....they've been popular summer wear here in the desert since they were first introduced in the mid-50's. I personally love the casual aspect of my town because I can go virtually anywhere in flip-flops except the stuffy restaurants and clubs in Snottsdale.
 
Landtuna is right in both paragraphs.

Beatniks and rock-and-rollers were most definitely two different creatures. They did listen to a lot of bad jazz and good folk music. They were among the first to utilize the FM band. As a grade school kid in the 50s, it seemed that only the truly stuffy and the avant gard (sp) hip of the day listened to FM. It was like an entire radio band full of acquired tastes.

It was only a matter of time until jazz stations playing random album cuts inspired and gave way to basement rock outlets doing the same thing. Halcyon radio days.

Several times in my younger days, dates would be wearing flip flops, and in most cases, I quietly cringed and grinned and bore it. In one case, we were going to a dinner party, she was an RN and should have known better, and I cringed again, and politely asked her to change her shoes.

I've seen them worn by both men and women in bureaucrat-type offices and corporate business places, and I'm thinking "Don't these people or their bosses care?" A couple of radio stations I worked at banned them during business hours.

On an episode of the now defunct syndicated show Jury Duty, former Saturday Night Live co-star Victoria Jackson, now appearing at a Tea Party near you, appeared on at least one episode wearing a pin striped women's business suit - and, you guessed it - flip flops! If I'm the show's executive producer, and I see this, I'd have a monster fit. Here we are, trying to get this show taken seriously and this career bimbo is unwittingly undermining everybody's efforts.

In anything but a casual setting, flip flops look so tacky. They should have celebrities making public service announcements about appropriate places and times to wear them. 8)
 
RicoGregg said:
Several times in my younger days, dates would be wearing flip flops,...In anything but a casual setting, flip flops look so tacky.
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I don't know when the "flip-flop" craze began, but my first pair was when I joined the Army (1959) and they were called "shower shoes" as they were only worn in the shower in the barracks. It wasn't until later that I saw them worn around swimming pools and beaches and the "flip-flop" name came into being. 8)
 
It's time to Flip, Flop and Fly ::)....as Ed Sullivan would say a really big Shooooe. :eek:

Ed Sullivan was the last major venue for the Pop/Broadway Singers.....Robert Goulet, Jerry Vale, Gordon Mccrae, Richard Kiley, Edie gorme, Leslie Uggams, etc. Side by side with the Rock N' Rollers and of course Topo Gigio and Senor Wences, Sa Right Sa Right.
 
The Ed Sullivan Show began as Sullivan's variety show, "The Toast Of The Town" in 1948. The broadcasts moved to the theater on Broadway (which was built in 1925/27 by Arthur Hammerstein, son of Oscar Hammerstein) in the early 1950s. CBS listed the location as TV Studio 50 but it was better known as the Ed Sullivan Theater for many years.

The early TV sitcom series "The Honeymooners" originated from Studio 50 stages, along with "The Merv Griffin Show" and many game shows. The theater was added to the National Register of Historic Places in 1997.
 
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