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stevations said:
don't be suckered, like I was ... this an ad site.
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don't be suckered, like I was ... this an ad site.
Actually, I don't believe Eddie Fisher recorded "Poor Butterfly" - or Butterfly for that matter.
Sarah Vaughan, Frank Sinatra, Tony Bennett, Judy Garland, Oscar Peterson, Nat King Cole, Carly Simon. Julie Andrews sang it in the movie, Thoroughly Modern Millie, Erroll Garner, Ahmad Jamal, Bennie Goodman, the Pied Pipers, and Dodie Stevens (whose big hit was "Tan Shoes & Pink Shoe Laces") and some jazz unstrumental
versions....but I found no Eddie Fisher.
Sarah Vaughan, Frank Sinatra, Tony Bennett, Judy Garland, Oscar Peterson, Nat King Cole, Carly Simon. Julie Andrews sang it in the movie, Thoroughly Modern Millie, Erroll Garner, Ahmad Jamal, Bennie Goodman, the Pied Pipers, and Dodie Stevens (whose big hit was "Tan Shoes & Pink Shoe Laces") and some jazz unstrumental
versions....but I found no Eddie Fisher.
Prais said:
I don't think so. Here's a sample of what Frank was doing in the early '50s.............................
GOODNIGHT IREENE 1950 #5
CHATTANOOGIE SHOE SHINE BOY 1950 #10
THE OLD MASTER PAINTER 1950 #13
NEVERTHELESS 1950 #14
CASTLE ROCK 1951 #8
I'M A FOOL TO WANT YOU 1951 #14
I'M WALKING BEHIND YOU 1953 #7
I'VE GOT THE WORLD ON A STRING 1953 #14
FROM HERE TO ETERNITY 1953 #15
SOUTH OF THE BORDER 1954 #2
3 COINS IN THE FOUNTAIN 1954 #4
YOUNG AT HEART 1954 #7
LEARNIN' THE BLUES 1955 #1
LOVE & MARRIAGE 1955 #5
SAME OLD SATURDAY NIGHT 1955 #13
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TheFonz said:
You are right Sinatra's career was exactly over, but, general consensus was that he was in a slump in the early 50's,compared to his 1939-1949 years, when every thing he did was #1 . Even in his worse slump Sinatra could record "home on the Range " and crack the top ten on name alone.
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His overall legacy, he is still Sinatra....one of the biggest or biggest of all time.
Correction to previous statement:
You are right Sinatra's career was exactly over.
a typo-what I meant to type was:
You are right Sinatra's career wasn't exactly over.
Correction to previous statement:
You are right Sinatra's career was exactly over.
a typo-what I meant to type was:
You are right Sinatra's career wasn't exactly over.
hornet61 said:
If you believe Wikipedia, the decline of Sinatra's career was in the 1940s, and the rebirth was 1950-1960.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Sinatra
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TheFonz said:
That could be, my memory is not what it used to be....I was basing it on "From Here To Eternity" 1953
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landtuna said:
Yes, and the heir apparent was supposed to be, Eddie Fisher..
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landtuna said:
well , i guess, where in the case of Sinatra the hair apparent turned to be a bad Toupee. :
oooh that's bad.... ;DAu contraire - the public DID get the message, and the public didn't like the message when Eddie divorced Debbie to marry Liz. This was a scandalous affair in the day. In today's world he would undoubtedly be lauded and applauded by the Hollywood elite, and his fans.landtuna said:
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In The words of Dinah Washington...."What A Difference A Day Makes"GridLeakBias said:
GridLeakBias said:
Although I was a kid then I remember the scandal well. It was not considered good form to get involved with the new squeeze publicly before disposing with the old one - especially one as popular as Debbie.
But I was thinking more of his vocal talents rather than his....uh...."other" ones.
GridLeakBias said:
I think that this issue has become a bit convoluted. Here are some facts:
1. Eddie Fisher had 17 Top 10 hits between 1950 and 1956. Does that qualify him as a replacement for Sinatra during that era? You decide.
2. Elvis Presley had his first chart hit in 1956 (Heartbreak Hotel).
3. Eddie married Debbie in 1955 and they divorced in 1959. It hardly seems possible that the divorce and his romance with Liz Taylor caused the demise of his career. Most likely it was rock & roll.
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TheFonz said:
Our point exactly we were saying, coulda, woulda, shoulda..we said heir apparent, but he never panned out, we said link between Sinatra and Elvis( in general terms not chronologically to the day), along with a dozen others singers we referenced. The divorces were a contributing factor to his failed popularity, It goes without saying rock n roll was a set back to the crooners..almost to extinction, but they hung in there. My first post said his divorces overshadowed his talent and he became the fodder for the comedians of his day. A sad fact is that there was more talent there than meets the eye, and his fame more notorious than not..Thats the final legacy of Eddie Fisher, and in recent years the two scathing autobiographies didn't improve his standing with the public..
I've got to mildly disagree that RnR killed Fisher. There were other crooners of the 50's that continued making records well into the 70's (Sinatra, Martin, Como, Torme etc.) and although they didn't sell overwhelming numbers of records (compared to RnR) remained popular with their demos. Fisher just seemed to disappear after the Taylor scandal played out.
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