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Edited Versions of Songs that Drive Me Absolutely NUTZ

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Nothing I hate more than edited versions of songs.....there are a handful of really really long 6 minute songs that perhaps deserved a bit of editing for "single" airplay...but not too many.....thought I'd share my "pet peeves" when it came to single edits include:

"Baby Hold On" by Eddie Money---Columbia fades it at 3:10 instead of letting it go on for another 10-15 seconds where it ended cold! Whoever came up with that idea of editing that song---NUTZ!!

"Lady" by the Little River Band---some stations play the edited or short version, and it sounds awful.....fading the vocal right in the middle of the chorus....The album version is the best! That's true with "Reminiscing" as well...you wind up missing an entire bridge and a great part of the song...

"Just The Way You Are" by Billy Joel----what a butchering of a great piece of music...there's an entire section of the song missing and the single edit fades right in the middle of the chorus.....the album version is far superior.

"The Heart Of The Matter" by Don Henley---again what is wrong with a 5 minute song....the single edit sucks!! And the same with "The Last Worthless Evening."

"One Of These Nights" by the Eagles.....again what a butchering of a great song....the LP version is the ONLY one to play

"Please Forgive Me"----the single edit misses a great intro before Bryan sings and is much better to mix with other songs....

"Hard To Say I'm Sorry---Getaway" by Chicago.....I absolutely HATE IT when a station plays the short version where they fade this great piece of music before the "Getaway" part begins......Same thing with "Will You Still Love Me," the single edit totally screws up a great song.


Anybody have some others? Let's share and vent some frustration, shall we kids???<P ID="signature">______________
Your Spokane & Seattle Radio Pal..and Seattle Moderator...

J.J. Hemingway</P>
 
> Nothing I hate more than edited versions of songs.....there
> are a handful of really really long 6 minute songs that
> perhaps deserved a bit of editing for "single" airplay...but
> not too many.....thought I'd share my "pet peeves" when it
> came to single edits include:
>
> "Baby Hold On" by Eddie Money---Columbia fades it at 3:10
> instead of letting it go on for another 10-15 seconds where
> it ended cold! Whoever came up with that idea of editing
> that song---NUTZ!!
>
> "Lady" by the Little River Band---some stations play the
> edited or short version, and it sounds awful.....fading the
> vocal right in the middle of the chorus....The album version
> is the best! That's true with "Reminiscing" as well...you
> wind up missing an entire bridge and a great part of the
> song...
>
> "Just The Way You Are" by Billy Joel----what a butchering of
> a great piece of music...there's an entire section of the
> song missing and the single edit fades right in the middle
> of the chorus.....the album version is far superior.
>
> "The Heart Of The Matter" by Don Henley---again what is
> wrong with a 5 minute song....the single edit sucks!! And
> the same with "The Last Worthless Evening."
>
> "One Of These Nights" by the Eagles.....again what a
> butchering of a great song....the LP version is the ONLY one
> to play
>
> "Please Forgive Me"----the single edit misses a great intro
> before Bryan sings and is much better to mix with other
> songs....
>
> "Hard To Say I'm Sorry---Getaway" by Chicago.....I
> absolutely HATE IT when a station plays the short version
> where they fade this great piece of music before the
> "Getaway" part begins......Same thing with "Will You Still
> Love Me," the single edit totally screws up a great song.
>
>
> Anybody have some others? Let's share and vent some
> frustration, shall we kids???
> What about the Door's "Light My Fire" -- there is a short version that cuts out most of the instrumental parts in the middle of the song


<P ID="signature">______________
Tom S</P>
 
One of the worst offenders I can think of is the Vanilla Fudge version of "You Keep Me Hanging On," which has lines cut from the middle of verses, whole verses cut, etc.
 
Re: Edited Versions of Songs

It's gotta be the 2:53 45-RPM single of "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" by Iron Butterfly.

..from the original 17-minute version? - this HAD to have been the worst!
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Others include many old single releases of 'CHICAGO' tunes (made for AM radio):

"Beginnings" (fades the percussion early), "Make Me Smile" (omits the minute guitar solo),
"Hard for me to say I'm Sorry" (fades piano out early before hard guitar), etc..
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
..and of course:
ANY TOP-40 HIT THAT WAS ON AN LP RECORD LABELED "K-Tel" !
 
Yes I Agree---the Doors "Light My Fire" definitely belongs there too!

There are a few others that just crossed my mind:

"Nights In White Satin" by the Moody Blues

"Diamond Girl" by Seals & Crofts (love the album version double intro!!)

"Here And Now" Luther Vandross---again what a lousy edited--totally butchered the song.....

"If We Fall In Love Again Tonight" Rod Stewart---long version much better!!
even his album version of "Tonight's The Night" is about 30 seconds longer and better.

"Only Women" by Alice Cooper.....another 2 minutes of music on the long version

Alrighty....are there even more??????<P ID="signature">______________
Your Spokane & Seattle Radio Pal..and Seattle Moderator...

J.J. Hemingway</P>
 
Re: Edited Versions of Songs

> It's gotta be the 2:53 45-RPM single of "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida"
> by Iron Butterfly.
>
> ..from the original 17-minute version? - this HAD to have
> been the worst!



i was gonna say that one...you beat me to it

ok, i will put a vote for "total eclipse of the heart" by bonnie tyler...the album cut is about 7 minutes and the only station that i know that plays the long version is jack fm
 
Re: Edited Versions of Songs

> It's gotta be the 2:53 45-RPM single of "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida"
> by Iron Butterfly.
>
> ..from the original 17-minute version? - this HAD to have
> been the worst!
----------------------> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Others included many single releases of 'CHICAGO' tunes
> like:
>
> "Beginnings" (which fades early), "Make Me Smile" (which
> omits the minute guitar solo),
> "Hard for me to say I'm Sorry" (which fades out early),
> etc..
------------> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ..and of course this topper:
> ANY HIT ON AN OLD "K-Tel" VINAL LP!!

>
I'm not a classic rock buff but is Pink Floyds "Another Brick in the Wall" version that Jack plays with nothing but the chorus the entire song? I seem to remember a version with helicopters and a long intro before the actual chorus. IMO that is the best part of the song.
 
That butchered single version of "In A Gadda Da Vida" Iron Butterfly....

...and many a thousand scorpions impale the person who cut "Telegraph Road" Dire Straits, a beautiful 14:20 epic (and definately one of their best tunes ever) to 5:17 shards and fragments to fit on a Australian 45 rpm radio single I still have...

I'm particularly disgusted with censored versions of songs

Like "You're Beautiful" James Blunt

The radio version of this song's second verse goes like this:

"Yes she caught my eye/As I walked on by/She can see from my face/That I was flying high..."

However, once you buy/download this tune, you hear it in it's natural glory:

"Yes she caught my eye/As I walked on by/She can see from my face/That I was f--king high..."

WHY? Just one word you hear every day, whether it be from some mom chasing her kid down the aisle at Wal-Mart or at a bus stop in front of a church. Yet, to protect the millions of five year olds with the vague and distant odds remotely of even PAYING ANY ATTENTION AT ALL to this song, we have to censor it. Yet Pink Floyd has reminded us to don't give them that good good good bulls--t unfiltered for decades.

There's a certain level of hypocrisy in radio editing that gets annoying after a while. And it's time for change. We should accept the fact that the American dialect has become somewhat spicier over the last 40 years and while we're at it. How come I can hear this James Blunt song in it's uncensored glory on the state run radio of Myanmar, but not on all-American (last I checked) KLSY?











> Nothing I hate more than edited versions of songs.....there
> are a handful of really really long 6 minute songs that
> perhaps deserved a bit of editing for "single" airplay...but
> not too many.....thought I'd share my "pet peeves" when it
> came to single edits include:
>
> "Baby Hold On" by Eddie Money---Columbia fades it at 3:10
> instead of letting it go on for another 10-15 seconds where
> it ended cold! Whoever came up with that idea of editing
> that song---NUTZ!!
>
> "Lady" by the Little River Band---some stations play the
> edited or short version, and it sounds awful.....fading the
> vocal right in the middle of the chorus....The album version
> is the best! That's true with "Reminiscing" as well...you
> wind up missing an entire bridge and a great part of the
> song...
>
> "Just The Way You Are" by Billy Joel----what a butchering of
> a great piece of music...there's an entire section of the
> song missing and the single edit fades right in the middle
> of the chorus.....the album version is far superior.
>
> "The Heart Of The Matter" by Don Henley---again what is
> wrong with a 5 minute song....the single edit sucks!! And
> the same with "The Last Worthless Evening."
>
> "One Of These Nights" by the Eagles.....again what a
> butchering of a great song....the LP version is the ONLY one
> to play
>
> "Please Forgive Me"----the single edit misses a great intro
> before Bryan sings and is much better to mix with other
> songs....
>
> "Hard To Say I'm Sorry---Getaway" by Chicago.....I
> absolutely HATE IT when a station plays the short version
> where they fade this great piece of music before the
> "Getaway" part begins......Same thing with "Will You Still
> Love Me," the single edit totally screws up a great song.
>
>
> Anybody have some others? Let's share and vent some
> frustration, shall we kids???
>
<P ID="signature">______________
"If I were in this business only for the business, I wouldn't be in this business." Samuel Goldwyn

[email protected]


</P>
 
>
> Anybody have some others? Let's share and vent some
> frustration, shall we kids???
>

I swear I've heard radio edits of "My Sharona" where the guitar solo was cut short. The solo, of course, is the only redeeming part of that song.
 
> Yes I Agree---the Doors "Light My Fire" definitely belongs
> there too!

Some stations used to pitch up that song a good 3%...on TOP of being the single version. How much contempt can a station show for one of rock's all time classics?

>
> There are a few others that just crossed my mind:
>
> "Nights In White Satin" by the Moody Blues

"Breathe deep/The gathering gloom....."

>
> "Diamond Girl" by Seals & Crofts (love the album version
> double intro!!)
>
> "Here And Now" Luther Vandross---again what a lousy
> edited--totally butchered the song.....
>
> "If We Fall In Love Again Tonight" Rod Stewart---long
> version much better!!
> even his album version of "Tonight's The Night" is about 30
> seconds longer and better.

30 seconds more of Britt Eckland's orgasmic cooing...

>
> "Only Women" by Alice Cooper.....another 2 minutes of music
> on the long version
>
> Alrighty....are there even more??????
>
<P ID="signature">______________
"If I were in this business only for the business, I wouldn't be in this business." Samuel Goldwyn

[email protected]


</P>
 
Re: Edited Versions of Songs

'Green Eyed Lady', Sugarloaf....that's just WRONG to cut such a great tune short. Same for 'Light My Fire'. Drives me CRAZY!!

(remember when 'Jump Into The Fire' by Neilson used to change TRACKS in the middle of the drum solo on the old 8 tracks? (and the matchbooks to keep the tapes playing?? HA! GOD I'm old!)
 
> Nothing I hate more than edited versions of songs.....there
> are a handful of really really long 6 minute songs that
> perhaps deserved a bit of editing for "single" airplay...but
> not too many.....

FYI ... there are some threads on the OLDIES FORMAT board on this site that cover this pretty well too. FAVE songs where the edits are better than the long versions; and the WORST edits where they butchered. Some on the lists below match ... but several others worth checking out if you're really into this.

Drake syndication used to take this one notch further where they would cut many songs just to get an extra 30 seconds or so out of them -- or in some cases to remove bridges that sounded too soft or too hard. Kind of a "Goldilocks" radio philosophy, apparently....
 
Re: Edited Versions of Songs

thought of a few more...

hot blooded by foreigner
rio by duran duran
american woman by guess who
crimson and clover by tommy james and the shondells
 
Re: Edited Versions of Songs

> thought of a few more...
>
> hot blooded by foreigner
> rio by duran duran
> american woman by guess who
>


Get Ready - Rare Earth...

Shameful

-Timmy<P ID="signature">______________
Perfection is overrated...
www.marinifamily.org</P>
 
Re: Edited Versions of Songs

> > thought of a few more...
> >
> > hot blooded by foreigner
> > rio by duran duran
> > american woman by guess who
> >
>
>
> Get Ready - Rare Earth...
>
> Shameful
>
> -Timmy
>

I seem to remember that during the latter half of the 60s the RKO Radio chain supposedly handed down an edict that they didn't want to play hits longer than 3:00 minutes. If a label wanted an add on the likes of 93KHJ, KFRC or WXLO, they came up with a radio edit to comply. During this time, AM top 40 stations were heavily into the "more music" wars with each other. That's where these "lovely" radio edits came from!

This was also the time that "progressive" or "underground" rock was evolving on FM. These stations played the album versions of hits, and started digging deeper into the LPs.

We've come a LONG way since that fork in the road, haven't we?
 
Re: Edited Versions of Songs

Oh, Sweet Jeebus...don't get me started. I actually worked for a station in the mid 80s that not only spun records, but we actually used about 20 of the Ktel LPs as our library (along with about 1000 cue-burned 45s!)


THE WHO- BABA O'REILLY
STYX- COME SAIL AWAY
YES- ROUNDABOUT
EAGLES- LYIN' EYES
FOGHAT- SLOW RIDE
BEATLES- HEY JUDE
SWEET- LOVE IS LIKE OXYGEN

And, yes, we also had a MickeyMouse box, speeding up the songs by 4.25 percent and lowering pitch by a (somewhat) similar amount. What the hell, it was AM radio.....
 
> Yes I Agree---the Doors "Light My Fire" definitely belongs
> there too!
>
> There are a few others that just crossed my mind:
>
> "Nights In White Satin" by the Moody Blues
>
> "Diamond Girl" by Seals & Crofts (love the album version
> double intro!!)
>
> "Here And Now" Luther Vandross---again what a lousy
> edited--totally butchered the song.....
>
> "If We Fall In Love Again Tonight" Rod Stewart---long
> version much better!!
> even his album version of "Tonight's The Night" is about 30
> seconds longer and better.
>
> "Only Women" by Alice Cooper.....another 2 minutes of music
> on the long version
>
> Alrighty....are there even more??????
>
"Piano Man"
"My Life"
"Big Shot"
"Blinded By the Light"
"Tonight, Tonight, Tonight"
"Love Bites"<P ID="signature">______________
"I look out for me and mine."-Capt. Malcom "Mal" Reynolds in Serenity</P>
 
Re: Edited Versions of Songs

> Oh, Sweet Jeebus...don't get me started. I actually worked
> for a station in the mid 80s that not only spun records, but
> we actually used about 20 of the Ktel LPs as our library
> (along with about 1000 cue-burned 45s!)

Bet that sounded awesome. Actually, compared to the way a scratched CD can sound, it didn't sound so bad looking back. Vinyl was just a royal pain to keep up with...
>
>
> THE WHO- BABA O'REILLY
> STYX- COME SAIL AWAY
> YES- ROUNDABOUT
> EAGLES- LYIN' EYES
> FOGHAT- SLOW RIDE
> BEATLES- HEY JUDE
> SWEET- LOVE IS LIKE OXYGEN
>
> And, yes, we also had a MickeyMouse box, speeding up the
> songs by 4.25 percent and lowering pitch by a (somewhat)
> similar amount. What the hell, it was AM radio.....

Thank heavens.

I didn't think there was an official hacked single version available of "Hey Jude" available to the public (visions of a head rolling down Abbey Road I guess.) In fact, John Lennon asked George Martin what was the longest song they can put on one side of a 45 rpm single (circa 1968, in the golden age of the automatic record changer.) He said "7 minutes, 11 seconds" - the exact timing of the original "Hey Jude" 45 single......
>
<P ID="signature">______________
"If I were in this business only for the business, I wouldn't be in this business." Samuel Goldwyn

[email protected]


</P>
 
Re: Edited Versions of Songs

God, I don't BELIEVE there was an edited version
of the Outlaw's "Green Grass and High Tides"!!
 
> Nothing I hate more than edited versions of songs.....there
> are a handful of really really long 6 minute songs that
> perhaps deserved a bit of editing for "single" airplay...but
> not too many.....thought I'd share my "pet peeves" when it
> came to single edits include:
>
> "Baby Hold On" by Eddie Money---Columbia fades it at 3:10
> instead of letting it go on for another 10-15 seconds where
> it ended cold! Whoever came up with that idea of editing
> that song---NUTZ!!
>
> "Lady" by the Little River Band---some stations play the
> edited or short version, and it sounds awful.....fading the
> vocal right in the middle of the chorus....The album version
> is the best! That's true with "Reminiscing" as well...you
> wind up missing an entire bridge and a great part of the
> song...
>
> "Just The Way You Are" by Billy Joel----what a butchering of
> a great piece of music...there's an entire section of the
> song missing and the single edit fades right in the middle
> of the chorus.....the album version is far superior.
>
> "The Heart Of The Matter" by Don Henley---again what is
> wrong with a 5 minute song....the single edit sucks!! And
> the same with "The Last Worthless Evening."
>
> "One Of These Nights" by the Eagles.....again what a
> butchering of a great song....the LP version is the ONLY one
> to play
>
> "Please Forgive Me"----the single edit misses a great intro
> before Bryan sings and is much better to mix with other
> songs....
>
> "Hard To Say I'm Sorry---Getaway" by Chicago.....I
> absolutely HATE IT when a station plays the short version
> where they fade this great piece of music before the
> "Getaway" part begins......Same thing with "Will You Still
> Love Me," the single edit totally screws up a great song.
>
>
> Anybody have some others? Let's share and vent some
> frustration, shall we kids???
>
"Games People Play"(Alan Parsons Project) I had both the 45RPM and the full "Turn Of A Friendly Card" LP back in the day. I prefer the album version. Another great Alan Parsons Project tune that was edited for the single was the title track of "Eye In the Sky"(1982).<P ID="signature">______________
"I look out for me and mine."-Capt. Malcom "Mal" Reynolds in Serenity</P>
 
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