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EDM Fakeness

DJ_Perry said:
Everybody needs to Listen to this. This Confirms the Fakeness in our Music. This was intentionally put together to show how the 16 biggest EDM songs all sound the same. Don't support this cookie cutter nonsense. Be Original DJs!!!!

https://soundcloud.com/daleri/epic-...nt=https://soundcloud.com/daleri/epic-mashleg
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Funny you say this Perry (shameless plug)......

This Monday I am going to do a show again on Urban Latino Radio (where I was 3 years ago before Party Radio USA but I AM still there). I am calling it #DMUrbanLatinoRadio....aka "the hashtag". It will BE everything current in dance music EXCEPT "EDM". Believe me, I'm getting feedback from a lot of people that are sick of the sound because of what you've said. In a bizarro way, I'm being "cutting edge" with this show by NOT supporting this.

I have sweepers that are being produced (not in time for the premiere) that say "It's dance Music...without the "E" . "Music you can dance to, not stand there jump and fist pump"..you get the idea. There is definitely a reason for that hashtag in that sense. I am being very blatant about it.

So yes, house will be there. I'll even put in trance but the more nicer flowing sounds, not the ultra electronic synthesized to death tracks.

Hey whaddaya ya know, I AGREE WITH YOU! ;)
 
DJ_Perry said:
Obviously you didn't listen to it. I did not create it. There is nothing I'm plugging
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I was talking about me shameless plugging my show and not only did I listen to what you've posted, I shared it on my wall on FB and credited YOU for finding it!

That's what happens with defriends.... ???
 
DJ_Perry said:
My mistake, i misread. But i Never defriended ya, you blocked me
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Can we get back to subject? Please? You brought up an interesting topic that people may want to discuss further on. Take our personal issues out of the equation.
 
Why don't you guys who are interested in dance music try some Big Band/Swing? That's the best dance music there ever was.

That mix posted by the OP sounds like playing cards clipped to bicycle spokes. I don't know what it is but it sure as hell ain't music - dance or otherwise.
 
Tony Santiago said:
That's what happens with defriends.... ???
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Uuummmm, I was responding to that part....so you made it personal. It's really no bother to me, quite comical actually.

landtuna said:
Why don't you guys who are interested in dance music try some Big Band/Swing? That's the best dance music there ever was.
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This guy always finds his way to this board, when his interest is oldies stations....strange
 
DJ_Perry said:
landtuna said:
Why don't you guys who are interested in dance music try some Big Band/Swing? That's the best dance music there ever was.
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This guy always finds his way to this board, when his interest is oldies stations....strange
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Big Band/Swing aren't Oldies.
 
landtuna said:
Why don't you guys who are interested in dance music try some Big Band/Swing? That's the best dance music there ever was.
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No... thanks... Big band/Swing is just too boring. Why don't you try techno, then move faster than a turtle? ;)
 
Actually Big Band is quite fast, and is the original pioneer of Dance music, however something tells me Mr Tuna doesn't know the the E in EDM stands for Electronic

I have the entire Motown box set. There is plenty of Disco on there. Disco is a combination of Funk / Soul and Pop. I don't understand the closed mind when it comes to Oldies. 80s is now eligible for the category, and I'm sure that bugs you too.
 
DJ_Perry said:
Actually Big Band is quite fast, and is the original pioneer of Dance music, however something tells me Mr Tuna doesn't know the the E in EDM stands for Electronic
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You'd be wrong but that sample by the OP didn't sound like 'electronic' music. It was just noise.

DJ_Perry said:
I have the entire Motown box set. There is plenty of Disco on there. Disco is a combination of Funk / Soul and Pop.
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Many artists crossed over the Disco line. The most obvious of them were the BeeGee's. That doesn't change the fact that Disco is a genre unto its own and is not normally thought of being a part of 'Motown' which is more soul/jazz/blues based.

DJ_Perry said:
I don't understand the closed mind when it comes to Oldies. 80s is now eligible for the category, and I'm sure that bugs you too.
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My 'closed mind' wraps it's head around the true definition of Oldies (please note the capital 'C').

Oldies defines the first and second generations of what we refer commonly to as Rock and Roll (or just Rock if you prefer) or roughly 1955-1985. Unlike other musical descriptions it is not so much a genre as it is a time period. Included in Oldies are Rockabilly, Country crossovers, some jazz, Motown, surf and car culture, Be-bop, instrumentals (including orchestral), comedy, a few Standards, a very few foreign songs, Folk and Folk Rock (and I may have missed a few). Songs outside this time frame would not be considered Oldies unless they conformed to a sound of that era (a good example being the Beach Boy's "Kokomo").

"oldies" OTOH (please note the small 'c') denotes any genre of music which is "old" the definition of which is usually defined poorly by the teens and young adults of the day who think, erroneously, they will never grow up.

Now, I really don't care whether anyone accepts my definition of Oldies. I think it makes perfect sense and I am happy with it. And before anyone jumps in with "classic hits" I would like to point out that the term "classic hits" means absolutely nothing. A "classic hit" could include songs by Jellyroll Morton, the Dorsey Brothers, Frank Sinatra, Ella Fitzgerald or The Who yet you will find no station that plays this variety. Someone at Marketing Central apparently thought Oldies sounded too old so came up with a meaningless identifier that moved the date ahead by a decade or two. They can call it whatever they want. I'm happy with mine.
 
technodj said:
landtuna said:
Why don't you guys who are interested in dance music try some Big Band/Swing? That's the best dance music there ever was.
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No... thanks... Big band/Swing is just too boring. Why don't you try techno, then move faster than a turtle? ;)
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There is nothing 'boring' about the dance music portions of BB/Swing. At its fastest I really doubt youngsters today could keep up unless they were professional break dancers.

Techno isn't my cup of tea but it also serves as pretty good dance music.
 
landtuna said:
You'd be wrong but that sample by the OP didn't sound like 'electronic' music. It was just noise.
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This is the only part I didn't follow. ^^ The produced sample I posted was done to intentionally point out how EDM is becoming noise (yes even to people like me that appreciate the genre). However, there are many other types of Electronica that are melodic, groovy, uplifting, and talented. Unfortunately, the average producer is making songs that sound like that obnoxious mash mix, and its becoming the stereotype of what was once a more complex sound.

I was also trying to agree somewhat, on how Big Band started this movement. It was the Dance music before the sock hops, and the Discos. Its all connected IMO.
 
landtuna said:
There is nothing 'boring' about the dance music portions of BB/Swing. At its fastest I really doubt youngsters today could keep up unless they were professional break dancers.

Techno isn't my cup of tea but it also serves as pretty good dance music.
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The only thing I'll say to that is that Gramophonedzie does some pretty SICK current mixes with that Big Band sound. A couple of years ago he used "Why Don't You" using the voice of Peggy Lee from the 40's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xucCdxnAQsY

But if we're going to get deeper than that, how about 20's Jazz? That set the tone for big band/swing....

http://www.20sjazz.com/
 
DJ_Perry said:
landtuna said:
You'd be wrong but that sample by the OP didn't sound like 'electronic' music. It was just noise.
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This is the only part I didn't follow. ^^ The produced sample I posted was done to intentionally point out how EDM is becoming noise (yes even to people like me that appreciate the genre). However, there are many other types of Electronica that are melodic, groovy, uplifting, and talented. Unfortunately, the average producer is making songs that sound like that obnoxious mash mix, and its becoming the stereotype of what was once a more complex sound.

I was also trying to agree somewhat, on how Big Band started this movement. It was the Dance music before the sock hops, and the Discos. Its all connected IMO.
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I may have gotten carried away but I agree with you re: EDM. The rhythmic and sometimes soothing sounds of electronic music is among my favorites at the end of the day.

On the second point, I'm not so sure. I seem to remember a certain kind of what was then called "jazz" played in the 1920's that actually started the modern dance movement. I think BB/Swing came along a decade or so later. Not that any of that makes any difference now.
 
Tony Santiago said:
The only thing I'll say to that is that Gramophonedzie does some pretty SICK current mixes with that Big Band sound. A couple of years ago he used "Why Don't You" using the voice of Peggy Lee from the 40's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xucCdxnAQsY
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The repetition in that particular song makes my head hurt.

Tony Santiago said:
But if we're going to get deeper than that, how about 20's Jazz? That set the tone for big band/swing....

http://www.20sjazz.com/
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Yup. Agree.
 
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