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El Rushbo

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Something I haven't seen posted below is the dramatic drop of El Rushbo's ratings in the top ten markets. Adults 25-54 Rush is down in EVERY top ten market Summer 2004 to Summer 2005. Yes I know "It was a political year" last year. That still is no excuse. We are not talking about some minor drops, but 1 to 2 shares average per market. Very dramatic and disturbing.

Thoughts?
 
> Something I haven't seen posted below is the dramatic drop
> of El Rushbo's ratings in the top ten markets. Adults 25-54
> Rush is down in EVERY top ten market Summer 2004 to Summer
> 2005. Yes I know "It was a political year" last year. That
> still is no excuse. We are not talking about some minor
> drops, but 1 to 2 shares average per market. Very dramatic
> and disturbing.
>
> Thoughts?

Didn't you know a drop in ratings is only significant when that person is Liberal/Progressive? (Sarcasm is intended.)
 
> Something I haven't seen posted below is the dramatic drop
> of El Rushbo's ratings in the top ten markets. Adults 25-54
> Rush is down in EVERY top ten market Summer 2004 to Summer
> 2005. Yes I know "It was a political year" last year. That
> still is no excuse. We are not talking about some minor
> drops, but 1 to 2 shares average per market. Very dramatic
> and disturbing.
>
> Thoughts?
>

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it's boring

> Thoughts?
One or two...
Limbaugh used to talk about issues, but now all he talks about is how liberals think, how righteous he is and his own personal dittohead cult. It's boring!

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> Something I haven't seen posted below is the dramatic drop
> of El Rushbo's ratings in the top ten markets. Adults 25-54
> Rush is down in EVERY top ten market Summer 2004 to Summer
> 2005. Yes I know "It was a political year" last year. That
> still is no excuse. We are not talking about some minor
> drops, but 1 to 2 shares average per market. Very dramatic
> and disturbing.
>
> Thoughts?
>

I think Rush's drop in ratings is due to his undying allegiance to Bush. When he screws up -- call him on it. Sometimes I think Rush is loyal to a fault. Although I have heard him disagree with Bush on ocassion, unlike Hannity. I think it comes from not wanting to admit (once in a blue moon) that someone from the other side might be right.
 
I don't know that he dropped any more than talk radio in general. Even dropping a share or two he'd still do 20 times better than any show that a station would put on its his place. Washing dishes? Doubt it, he's made enough money that he could quit tommorrow and go to an island if he wanted to (I don't even think Marta can take all of it).
 
I don't disagree with a lot of the criticisms aimed at Rush - to me,it's not a great time to be following lockstep with the GW partyline. But I think that's the problem with the "progressive talkers" as well. Other than the hard core die-hards, most people are sick to death of the the right bashing the left and the left bashing the right...just because one is left and one is right. That's why Savage and Schultz have real opportunities, since they don't constantly mimic the RNC/DNC official line.

To answer the oriognal question - In a lot of markets, Rush seems to be returning to normal levels in the summer.
 
<...most people are sick to death of the the right
> bashing the left and the left bashing the right...just
> because one is left and one is right.>

A recent piece of national talk radio research said just about what the above poster said: millions of average listeners are very weary of political bashing on either side.

I think a lot of talk show listeners are finally....finally figuring out that you can believe a tiny portion of what most politicans say...and talkers who are heavily-political are simply parroting their chosen side...thinking that will lead to higher ratings and more money for them. These are entertainers...who have gigs...not statesmen. It's encouraging that average Americans are finally figuring that out.

Radio and media are #1...businesses who's product is entertainment-based. Nothing wrong with that at all. People need to realize it's show-biz...not reality.

The said thing is, most talk radio is pretty negative...regardless of topics...basically a bitch session. "...why do people refuse to see things MY way?...." Tons of complaining...very little positive and upbeat. It gets old real fast.
 
All talk radio is down somewhat in a non-presidential election year. Rush included. You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure that one out.

As for the rest of this thread, I find it amusing that people who don't listen to Limbaugh feel they have grounds to complain about the content of his show. Claiming Limbaugh is "lockstep" with the Bush administration is amusing considering he was criticizing Bush and conservatives in the Congress & Senate for their love of pork spending as recently as yesterday.
 
> That's why Savage and Schultz have real opportunities, since they don't
> constantly mimic the RNC/DNC official line.

You've gotta be kidding. I don't listen to Savage, but I do listen occasionally to Ed Schultz. Big Eddie is completely in bed with the Democratic Party -- especially the Senate leaders like Harry Reid of Nevada, Joe Biden of Delaware and Byron Dorgan of North Dakota. In fact his syndication effort was originally bankrolled by Democratic Party money funneled through Democracy Radio.

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Rush is divorced from Marta.

She kind of locked it up when she attempted to testify against him in the thing with the Oxycontin scandakl.

> I don't know that he dropped any more than talk radio in
> general. Even dropping a share or two he'd still do 20 times
> better than any show that a station would put on its his
> place. Washing dishes? Doubt it, he's made enough money that
> he could quit tommorrow and go to an island if he wanted to
> (I don't even think Marta can take all of it).
>
 
> All talk radio is down somewhat in a non-presidential
> election year. Rush included. You don't have to be
> Sherlock Holmes to figure that one out.>

Get into a conversation with friends, co-workers..etc...those who are right-wing OR left-wing oriented. They parrot back the popular expressions and put-downs of their chosen talk-show host and the party they support. In fact, it's often word-for-word. It's comical. So, no...I wouldn't say realizing talk radio is down "somewhat" in a non-presidential election year is as obvious to many people as you assume. (By the way, it's more than "somewhat" down...Rush is down nearly 50% and Hannity more than 60%...and Air America's audience is so small...it's hard to measure...this is a 1-year comparison).

I personally could care less about Rush or Al Franken..about Hannity or Stephanie Miller (except she's cute), about Laura Ingram (has beautiful eyes) or Ed Shultz. They are all entertainers. Who in their right minds take these people's views seriously? Does it not make sense to take radio talk shows as entertainment...and form your political views by as closely as possible examining the records of politicans you're considering voting for?

Do you form your political views by listening to the "shows" on talk radio? Are we as a society that shallow and out of touch? Say it ain't so!
 
Entertaining Talk Radio

> I personally could care less about Rush or Al Franken..about
> Hannity or Stephanie Miller (except she's cute), about Laura
> Ingram (has beautiful eyes) or Ed Shultz. They are all
> entertainers. Who in their right minds take these people's
> views seriously? Does it not make sense to take radio talk
> shows as entertainment...and form your political views by as
> closely as possible examining the records of politicans
> you're considering voting for?

Let me stand up and applaud you, my friend.

:D

This is the point I make day in and day out.

Political talk radio, even shows which try to rile up the core and even get "politically active"...is ENTERTAINMENT. It is nothing more. It doesn't affect the planet. It doesn't change the world. It is mean to entertain listeners and get them to not change the radio station.

That's one reason I do listen to the aforementioned Ms. Miller. Though she's clearly not "faking" what she believes, she's entertainment first, everything else second. When people try to put greater political importance on what she does, and try to anoint her as a crusader in charge of changing her chosen political party, she protests laughingly and says "who, me? I'm the one in charge of fart jokes!"

(And yes, you have good vision. :D)

If I don't find them entertaining, I don't listen. On the other side of the fence, Premiere conservative host Glenn Beck got WAY too serious about himself and his "mission" as a "true American" a ways back, and I stopped listening. He's backed off somewhat from that, perhaps recognizing that like Ms. Miller, his calling is entertainment.

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Re: Entertaining Talk Radio

> If I don't find them entertaining, I don't listen. On the
> other side of the fence, Premiere conservative host Glenn
> Beck got WAY too serious about himself and his "mission" as
> a "true American" a ways back, and I stopped listening.
> He's backed off somewhat from that, perhaps recognizing that
> like Ms. Miller, his calling is entertainment.

True, but he's still much better than most. Amazing how Hannity tells colleagues on the air that he is indeed "converting people" and that entertainment is second, yet people flock around him. I still think Beck's More-On Trivia is classic entertainment. Just do more stuff like that.
 
Glenn Beck's Entertainment

> True, but he's still much better than most. Amazing how
> Hannity tells colleagues on the air that he is indeed
> "converting people" and that entertainment is second, yet
> people flock around him. I still think Beck's More-On Trivia
> is classic entertainment. Just do more stuff like that.

Somewhere in the past year or so, he started going back to more stuff like this. Maybe he felt in the immediate post-9/11 period, he should be more portrayed as a "patrotic, Real American", but he lost sight of a lot of the entertaining aspects of his show.

But even in that period right after 9/11, when he ramped up nationally, I remember a very classic segment of his.

I was driving north from West Virginia back into Ohio along I-77, when I made a lunch stop in Parkersburg, WV. WLTP/1450 (now 910 AM) was running his show, and he went on and on about how predictable other talk radio was. He kept saying that "and then caller goes on and on about how Bill Clinton did this, yadda yadda, blah blah blah blah, and then the host says that Clinton said this, blah blah blah blah BLAH...", and this coming from a *conservative* host!

About a year later, his show had moved into this territory itself. Thankfully, he's pulled back from that to at least some degree.

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> to many people as you assume. (By the way, it's more than
> "somewhat" down...Rush is down nearly 50% and Hannity more
> than 60%...

I doubt that very much. Do you have evidence to support this?
 
Re: Entertaining Talk Radio

> Political talk radio, even shows which try to rile up the core and even get
> "politically active"...is ENTERTAINMENT. It is nothing more.

That may be what they DO (rile up the core) but that doesn't mean that's what they set out to do. The thing about Rush is, he TELLS you his purpose is entertainment yet every now and then, people seem to "discover" and report it. He does claim to convert people and talk show hosts probably do to a very small extent. Sort of. I think people who are actually apolitical and think of themselves as liberal or conservative because of family can be pulled in one direction or another by a talk show host they like. But that's about it.

You gotta give Boortz credit. Not only does he say this, it's on the front page of boortz.com: <blockquote>ALWAYS REMEMBER

Don't believe anything you read on this web page, or, for that matter, anything you hear on The Neal Boortz Show, unless it is consistent with what you already know to be true, or unless you have taken the time to research the matter to prove its accuracy to your satisfaction. This is known as "doing your homework."
</blockquote>


It doesn't affect the planet. It
> doesn't change the world. It is mean to entertain listeners
> and get them to not change the radio station.
>
> That's one reason I do listen to the aforementioned Ms.
> Miller. Though she's clearly not "faking" what she
> believes, she's entertainment first, everything else second.
> When people try to put greater political importance on what
> she does, and try to anoint her as a crusader in charge of
> changing her chosen political party, she protests laughingly
> and says "who, me? I'm the one in charge of fart jokes!"
>
> (And yes, you have good vision. :D)
>
> If I don't find them entertaining, I don't listen. On the
> other side of the fence, Premiere conservative host Glenn
> Beck got WAY too serious about himself and his "mission" as
> a "true American" a ways back, and I stopped listening.
> He's backed off somewhat from that, perhaps recognizing that
> like Ms. Miller, his calling is entertainment.
>
> -OA
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Boortz and homework

Im sure he was doing his homework on the Atlanta job market and current situation for Katrina evacuees...

http://mediamatters.org/items/200510240014

Summary, quotes, and audio availble for your consideration and interpretation

A small sample:

On the October 24 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio program, Neal Boortz suggested that a victim of Hurricane Katrina currently housed in an Atlanta hotel consider prostitution. "If that's the only way she can take care of herself," Boortz posited, "it sure beats the hell out of sucking off the taxpayers." The woman was featured in an October 23 Atlanta Journal-Constitution article; Boortz repeated her first name on the air.

Oh wait, im sorry...he was being entertaining......he has so much proof that there was no doubt that what he was saying was absolutely true without a doubt...or is he just another loudmouth trying to "rile up the core".
 
Re: Boortz and homework

> Oh wait, im sorry...he was being entertaining......

Exactly. Just as Al Franken was joking when he said Rove would be executed.

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Re: Boortz and homework

> Im sure he was doing his homework on the Atlanta job market
> and current situation for Katrina evacuees...
>
> http://mediamatters.org/items/200510240014

Does someone toss a nickel in your tin cup every time you post a link to mediamatters? Most of us can find Brock's silly little web site on our own, if we cared.
 
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