NYRadioFan22
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My problem with EITM is the lack of music
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Elliot in the Morning on ALT 92.3
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If there was consensus music in this format, it would be a problem. But everyone who has commented in this thread has their own view on what songs and artists they should play. The old line is what you don't play won't hurt you.
The hard part in launching a personality is the time it takes for listeners to warm up to them and feel part of the family.
94.7's signal is not that great in NYC that's why it's not doing well.
Remember, the NYC radio metro market is not just NYC and the boroughs. In fact, more than half the population of the radio market is not in those areas.
Yup. Your subway is on stilts and your pizza sucks.
Pizza isn’t meant to be folded and eaten like a sandwich you New Yawker heathens.Yup. Your subway is on stilts and your pizza sucks.
I’ll take the L on the subway though. We definitely have an “L”-train!
I find New Yorkers to be hypocritical on pizza. They crap on deep dish but then have the audacity to call their pizza a "pie", even though deep dish is much more pie-like structure-wise.Pizza isn’t meant to be folded and eaten like a sandwich you New Yawker heathens.
I’ll take the L on the subway though. We definitely have an “L”-train!
Have you spent time in Italy? The pizza is often a household's way of preparing leftovers... whatever there is on a crust with tomato and olive oil. And many fold the slices to keep the "stuff on top" from falling off.
A pizza in Italy is not called a "pie". That is a pure American neologism which is based on the round, pie-like shape. Burritos are an American creation, pizza is not.
Today's pizza evolved from putting stuff on flatbread when the Spaniards brought tomatoes from the new world and former sweet flatbread dishes became tart breads laden with tomato and other things mixed in.
My phrasing should have indicated that I was being facetious. “New Yawker heathens” should have been a tell at the very least. I do know how pizza is prepared in Italy though I have never traveled there to eat it for myself.
We’re getting quite off-topic here, but I have had the pizza in Italy. It’s pretty good, though, IMO, the BEST pizza I’ve had in the states (John’s on Bleeker St near Times Square being one example) is better than the best pizza I’ve had in Italy.
To get back on topic, just because WXRT works in Chicago (last time I saw the billing, it was doing decently) doesn’t mean it’d fly in NYC. The market demographics are pretty different and WXRT has a lot of heritage in the market. Recent rock format launches (at least of Alt and Active) have had a lot of trouble even getting off the ground (look at all of the Audacy and Cumulus launches in the last half decade).
These are fair points. WAXQ is an anomaly in that it does as well as it does but I figure a lot of its success is buoyed by the suburbs.
I would hope that in all of the places where Audacy would be able to execute well it would be their NYC cluster, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
When my wife and I were in Italy a year ago. You're right. The pizza was pretty uninspired.
If New Yorkers weren't so loyal to Mega, I think iHeart would be considering flipping WAXQ to Rumba. However well it does, they want the Spanish advertising dollars.
Yeah, Enrique Santos is not going to fly in such a Dominican market.
WAXQ is one of the top performers in the cluster. Whatever ad revenue they get would not be worth flipping it.
I could not disagree more. The first iteration of RXP was a breath of fresh air that was very daring to try in a market like this, especially when the audience for a "rock" station isn't nearly as big as it would be in other parts of the country. But, to each his own, and clearly more people thought like you did than thought like I did as the station did not last very long.
I just feel like AAA, Classic Rock, Rock, and Alternative should not be mixed. I felt like I was listening to Y102 in Reading a total disaster if a station.
Proving again what TheBigA and others have said many times about the format: There's not enough agreement on what it should and shouldn't contain -- among programmers and listeners alike -- that it's hard for it to justify its existence on commercial radio, especially when advertising is on a downturn. By comparison, formats like classic rock, country and CHR are basically plug-and-play. Country listeners aren't going to avoid a station because it's playing a bunch of songs they can't stand because those songs, for the most part, do not exist. Every country station plays ballads about relationships, uptempo country-rockers about parties and summer days, neotraditional heartbreak or drinking songs, and goofy novelty stuff you can dance to. You might not care for a particular type of country song as much as you do the others, or you might wish that some artist with more of an alt-country or bluegrass lean could be played in addition to the songs and artists already in the format, but by and large, the country listener (and the classic rock listener, the CHR listener, the urban listener, etc.) is happy with his or her favorite station. Alt has never been able to forge that kind of mass listener loyalty, with very rare regional exceptions.
The first incarnation of 'RXP was the closest thing that NYC will ever get to a commercial version of a AAA format. Problem is, what works well left of the dial didn't grab enough loyal listeners to stay on the air. A station like that will grab a listener for a few songs, but then alienate someone with what comes up after that. It's a more extreme version of what K-Rock did when they were mostly alternative, but then would throw on "retro rock" and it would be one of the same three AC/DC or Ozzy songs. Basically, 'RXP was a great station for radio lovers as it was a contemporary version of what WNEW was like back in the day: a fully curated mix of rock, but more eclectic perhaps to a fault in such a market where playing it safe is so richly rewarded. However, radio lovers are vastly outnumbered by those who listen for 15 minutes on their way to & from the office, and they just want to hear the hits.
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