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Elvis has left the building

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I thought WODS was going to keep thier specilty programming, "Elvis Only" and Barry Scotts stuff.

I was out early today and WODS was playing holiday crap in the 8 to 9 AM hour.

Gotta love XM...
 
Both Jay Gordon's "Elvis Only" and Barry Scott's "Lost 45's" are syndicated, although Scott does a longer version for WODS-103.3.

Could this be a sign of a format tweak or change after Christmas??
 
> Both Jay Gordon's "Elvis Only" and Barry Scott's "Lost 45's"
> are syndicated, although Scott does a longer version for
> WODS-103.3.
>
> Could this be a sign of a format tweak or change after
> Christmas??
>

Si !!!
 
>
> > Could this be a sign of a format tweak or change after
> > Christmas??
> >
>
> Si !!!
>
I like your answer,hope it comes true.
 
> Both Jay Gordon's "Elvis Only" and Barry Scott's "Lost 45's"
> are syndicated, although Scott does a longer version for
> WODS-103.3.
>
> Could this be a sign of a format tweak or change after
> Christmas??
>

Maybe, but a reason why there may not be a tweak or change is because WODS is playing CHRISTMAS music, not the regular format!

Infinity may switch WODS to a 70s/80s oldies format like KFRC in San Francisco though.
 
> >
> > > Could this be a sign of a format tweak or change after
> > > Christmas??
> > >
> >
> > Si !!!
> >
> I like your answer,hope it comes true.
>
Surely you jest. Exchanging oldies para Espanol? I hope not.

Why not WAAF? By using your logic, I can say: "Gee, I never listen to them so it would be fine with me!" Plus, they have fewer listeners to offend.
 
Or at least they can maybe broaden to "Beatles-to-mid-or-late 80s". They already
do play some early 80s tunes. Or will this tick off their listeners? That doesn't
mean they'll play Quiet Riot, but wouldn't Huey Lewis fit in? Eventually the 60s
stuff may get phased out but right now I can't see them getting rid of Beatles/
Motown/Beach Boys/Byrds/etc. But who knows.

Instead of mike, which plays (kinda) everything, 'ODS has a pretty restricted playlist (if you want "songs you haven't heard in awhile, you tune to Barry
Scott) and it prob. does well in ratings/ad buys. But if they want to broaden
their musical horizons a bit...Even the ho-ho-ho they're doing now is a nice
change for some listeners (though I'll wait another week or so before I dip
into it).


> Infinity may switch WODS to a 70s/80s oldies format like
> KFRC in San Francisco though.
 
> Or at least they can maybe broaden to
> "Beatles-to-mid-or-late 80s". They already
> do play some early 80s tunes. Or will this tick off their
> listeners? That doesn't
> mean they'll play Quiet Riot, but wouldn't Huey Lewis fit
> in? Eventually the 60s
> stuff may get phased out but right now I can't see them
> getting rid of Beatles/
> Motown/Beach Boys/Byrds/etc. But who knows.
>
> Instead of mike, which plays (kinda) everything, 'ODS has a
> pretty restricted playlist (if you want "songs you haven't
> heard in awhile, you tune to Barry
> Scott) and it prob. does well in ratings/ad buys. But if
> they want to broaden
> their musical horizons a bit...Even the ho-ho-ho they're
> doing now is a nice
> change for some listeners (though I'll wait another week or
> so before I dip
> into it).
>
>
> > Infinity may switch WODS to a 70s/80s oldies format like
> > KFRC in San Francisco though.
>
I personally would like to see a rhythum based oldies format. :)

I like and enjoy the music currently played at WODS (at least prior to Nov 17th) but the playlist is WAY TOO TIGHT!
You claim to play the greatest hits of the 60s and 70s but where are the pre-64 classics?
Where's Zeppelin's Stairway to Heaven? Where's Chubby checker's The Twist? Where's Rock Around The clock? Why only the 3 minute version of Light My Fire when folks would seem to prefer the 7 minute LP version,but you have no gripes with a 7 minute version of Hey Jude? Why only place Dancing Queen when's theres also Mamma Mia,SOS,and Waterloo just to name 3? Why only Get down tonight (and the 3 minute edit at that when there's an excellent 5 minute version) and not shake Your Booty,That's the Way I Like It,I'm Your Boogie Man,Keep it Comin Love,Please don't Go,and Give It Up?


It seems like all that get played generally are songs from the current Freedom 400.
20 years 400 songs that's like 20 songs a year on average. (25 if you cut 60-63)


The dream idea to really makes things competitive would be to ADD all the "jack" tunes but keep the oldies keep the announcers and add even more. Blend in songs from the Lost 45s during the week. This would result in an WODS with GREAT jocks, jingles, elements AND the most massive playlist in Boston.


YES I did email Pete Falconi last summer :)
 
the playlist is WAY TOO TIGHT!
>
> You claim to play the greatest hits of the 60s and 70s but
> where are the pre-64 classics?

They figure if you're old enough to have gone to high school pre-64,
you're in the rest home. Fats Domino? Jerry Lee Lewis or even
Bill Haley and the Comets? Nope. The consultants say they're a turnoff.

> Where's Zeppelin's Stairway to Heaven? Where's Chubby
> checker's The Twist? Where's Rock Around The clock?

Well Zep would be heard on classic rockers like WZLX and that
classic rock/classic pop outlet WROR. Which apparently is not
to WODS' taste; they think harder stuff would turn people away.

Why only
> the 3 minute version of Light My Fire when folks would seem
> to prefer the 7 minute LP version,but you have no gripes
> with a 7 minute version of Hey Jude?

Good point, though maybe they'll play the full length version of
Light My Fire on the Thu Night Countdown. I know they've played
the full length version of Theme From Shaft ("...damn right!")
on that show.

Why only place Dancing
> Queen when's theres also Mamma Mia,SOS,and Waterloo just to
> name 3?

Exactly, WAY too tight. Oh and getting back to why they play the
edit version of Light My Fire, they figure that's how we
remember it from the old days of top 40 radio (though even
then they'd play the long versions once in awhile...?)


Blend in songs from the Lost
> 45s during the week.

They do (well, before they went all-Yule) play a "Lost 45 at 1:45" every day,
but I could see them add more, yes. Sometimes I don't mind listening to them,
but their tight playlist and heavy ad load can make them W-Odious.

As an example of their playlist, here's the track listing for a CD I have,
"Turtles 20 Greatest Hits". Now, which of these do they play?

>>It Ain't Me Babe...Let Me Be...Eve Of Destruction...You Baby ...
Grim Reaper Of Love...Can I Get To Know You Better...Outside Chance...
Happy Together...She'd Rather Be With Me...Me About You
Guide For The Married Man...She's My Girl...You Know What I Mean...
Sound Asleep...Elenore...You Showed Me...The Story Of Rock & Roll...
You Don't Have To Walk In The Rain...Love In The City...Lady-O

Now admittedly a few of those may not have hit the top 40 (but came close).
What does ODS play?
Happy Together--definitely
You Baby--maybe once in a blue moon (though WBOQ plays it more often)
Maybe they play Elenore once in a great while. That's about it.
 
> I like and enjoy the music currently played at WODS (at
> least prior to Nov 17th) but the playlist is WAY TOO TIGHT!
>
> You claim to play the greatest hits of the 60s and 70s but
> where are the pre-64 classics?
> Where's Zeppelin's Stairway to Heaven? Where's Chubby
> checker's The Twist? Where's Rock Around The clock? Why only
> the 3 minute version of Light My Fire when folks would seem
> to prefer the 7 minute LP version,but you have no gripes
> with a 7 minute version of Hey Jude?

I replied to this when you posted this exact same paragraph a few months ago. I remember you mentioning the exact same songs. Here's (approximately) the same answer again.

Led Zeppelin is more identified with Classic Rock stations, which play harder rock than Oldies stations. Led Zeppelin are generally not played on any Oldies stations. They're considered too hard rock (though a few of their hit singles are played on Classic Hits and Variety/Adult Hits stations).

You know WODS dumped everything pre-64 because they (and most major Oldies stations) think the demo is too old, so no Twist, or Rock Around The Clock (which is mid-50's, not 60's).

Top 40 stations played only the short single version of Light My Fire in the 60's. Oldies stations follow suit because they are modeled after Top 40 stations of the 60's and 70's, which played only singles. They did not play the LP version of Light My Fire.

Only FM album rock (AOR) stations played the LP version of Light My Fire in the 60's and 70's. Classic Rock stations are modeled after FM AOR stations, so they play the LP version. Oldies stations play the short single version because they're modeled after Top 40 stations.

In the case of Hey Jude, the single version was 7 minutes long. There was no short single version, or any other version at all. That was the version that the Top 40 stations, which played only singles, played in the 60's. It's the only version that exists, so Oldies stations, which play versions from singles, play it today.

> The dream idea to really makes things competitive would be
> to ADD all the "jack" tunes but keep the oldies keep the
> announcers and add even more. Blend in songs from the Lost
> 45s during the week. This would result in an WODS with GREAT
> jocks, jingles, elements AND the most massive playlist in
> Boston.

You and I and a small group of music afficionados would love to hear a massive playlist, but most listeners wouldn't. Any real attempts at putting massive playlists on commercial radio tank the ratings among the majority of mainstream listeners nowadays, who only want to hear their familiar favorites over and over again. Even Mike, Jack, etc... is not really a massive playlist, it's just a certain mix of pop hits of the past few decades including some from different genres thrown in.
 
> As an example of their playlist, here's the track listing for a CD I have,
> "Turtles 20 Greatest Hits". Now, which of these do they play?
>
> >>It Ain't Me Babe...Let Me Be...Eve Of Destruction...You Baby ...
> Grim Reaper Of Love...Can I Get To Know You Better...Outside Chance...
> Happy Together...She'd Rather Be With Me...Me About You
> Guide For The Married Man...She's My Girl...You Know What I Mean...
> Sound Asleep...Elenore...You Showed Me...The Story Of Rock & Roll...
> You Don't Have To Walk In The Rain...Love In The City...Lady-O
>
> Now admittedly a few of those may not have hit the top 40
> (but came close).
> What does ODS play?
> Happy Together--definitely
> You Baby--maybe once in a blue moon (though WBOQ plays it more often)
> Maybe they play Elenore once in a great while. That's about it.

They were still playing "She'd Rather Be With Me" fairly often. I haven't heard "You Baby" on WODS in ages. "Elenore" is rarely played.
 
> > Or at least they can maybe broaden to
> > "Beatles-to-mid-or-late 80s". They already
> > do play some early 80s tunes. Or will this tick off their
> > listeners? That doesn't
> > mean they'll play Quiet Riot, but wouldn't Huey Lewis fit
> > in? Eventually the 60s
> > stuff may get phased out but right now I can't see them
> > getting rid of Beatles/
> > Motown/Beach Boys/Byrds/etc. But who knows.
> >
> > Instead of mike, which plays (kinda) everything, 'ODS has
> a
> > pretty restricted playlist (if you want "songs you haven't
>
> > heard in awhile, you tune to Barry
> > Scott) and it prob. does well in ratings/ad buys. But if
> > they want to broaden
> > their musical horizons a bit...Even the ho-ho-ho they're
> > doing now is a nice
> > change for some listeners (though I'll wait another week
> or
> > so before I dip
> > into it).
> >
> >
> > > Infinity may switch WODS to a 70s/80s oldies format like
>
> > > KFRC in San Francisco though.
> >
> I personally would like to see a rhythum based oldies
> format. :)
>
> I like and enjoy the music currently played at WODS (at
> least prior to Nov 17th) but the playlist is WAY TOO TIGHT!
>
> You claim to play the greatest hits of the 60s and 70s but
> where are the pre-64 classics?
> Where's Zeppelin's Stairway to Heaven? Where's Chubby
> checker's The Twist? Where's Rock Around The clock? Why only
> the 3 minute version of Light My Fire when folks would seem
> to prefer the 7 minute LP version,but you have no gripes
> with a 7 minute version of Hey Jude? Why only place Dancing
> Queen when's theres also Mamma Mia,SOS,and Waterloo just to
> name 3? Why only Get down tonight (and the 3 minute edit at
> that when there's an excellent 5 minute version) and not
> shake Your Booty,That's the Way I Like It,I'm Your Boogie
> Man,Keep it Comin Love,Please don't Go,and Give It Up?
>
>
> It seems like all that get played generally are songs from
> the current Freedom 400.
> 20 years 400 songs that's like 20 songs a year on average.
> (25 if you cut 60-63)
>
>
> The dream idea to really makes things competitive would be
> to ADD all the "jack" tunes but keep the oldies keep the
> announcers and add even more. Blend in songs from the Lost
> 45s during the week. This would result in an WODS with GREAT
> jocks, jingles, elements AND the most massive playlist in
> Boston.

This is the dream of a radio lover (us), but a massive playlist doesn't always mean sucess. For example, WRXQ in Washington DC has had a larger playlist the past year or so, but the ratings show that it isn't working out. They did better when the playlist was smaller. A massive playlist isn't always the answer to a station's problems.

With WODS, there will be a changing shift to more 80s (which is already occuring). Within a few years, the 60s may be out.
>
>
> YES I did email Pete Falconi last summer :)
>
 
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