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EMF's model & thoughts of commercial broadcasting.

smashedcd said:
...not sure why louisiana is considered a weird place....

Thank you....that proves my point!

It's important to understand what you and your life experience bring to your own perception of what's around you and what happens around you. Study the word "paradigm" and learn both what it means and what it implies. Your paradigm is a function of who and where you are and affects how you perceive everything. Without understanding your own paradigm (and learning to rid yourself of it as best you can...which you can't really, but that's another discussion),.....Without understanding your own paradigm, you can't be a...neutral observer! ;D


where is it not like this again?

The vast majority of places!

Again...the power of paradigms!
 
I hate to burst everyones bubble but EMF is proud to go into cities with Christian stations. They have a goal of owning the markets they are in. I have been told by people who were employed byy EMF (In the arly years, these peolpe have now left employment) that they want to drive Local Christian Stations out of business so they can dominate the Christian Market. EMF should concentrate on putting stations in markets that do that have Christian stations already. They do not care about the damage they do to community Christian Radio.. They have no local ministry but when they came into certain markets they made promises that they would just to get suppport from local churches and ministries. THey a have recently change the focus of theior Regional Managers and wanting them to work their major donors the most. They figure if you can give $1,000 a month you can give $2,000. They will gladly sit down with you and show you how you can do (by stopping you from giving anywhere else) They are a pledge drive machine ... I laugh when they get waivers for local studios, it would cause a hardship, what a joke! Do not let them fool you they are the religous Clear Channel , if they had it heir way there woudl only be EMF Stations. As to the Air 1 format, they are not trying to compete with radiou on any level they do not want that age demographic. Very few people in that age demographic have money to pledge at least not in the high amounts they want. They are trying to get more male listeners who will not listen to their poppy K-Love format.
 
Again, better to have only locally owned teaching/preaching stations and no CCM in the market? The locals have had about a 45-year head start and have been doing the same thing since the 1960s.
 
gr8oldies said:
Again, better to have only locally owned teaching/preaching stations and no CCM in the market? The locals have had about a 45-year head start and have been doing the same thing since the 1960s.

It's too bad that EMF can't buy more Christian stations that are stuck in the 60's or earlier and update their formats. But then the owners of some of those stations are so biased they'll never sell to anyone that wants to do a CCM format. They'd go under before they'd let that happen.
 
northernlightsmedia said:
I hate to burst everyones bubble but EMF is proud to go into cities with Christian stations. They have a goal of owning the markets they are in. I have been told by people who were employed byy EMF (In the arly years, these peolpe have now left employment) that they want to drive Local Christian Stations out of business so they can dominate the Christian Market. EMF should concentrate on putting stations in markets that do that have Christian stations already. They do not care about the damage they do to community Christian Radio.. They have no local ministry but when they came into certain markets they made promises that they would just to get suppport from local churches and ministries. THey a have recently change the focus of theior Regional Managers and wanting them to work their major donors the most. They figure if you can give $1,000 a month you can give $2,000. They will gladly sit down with you and show you how you can do (by stopping you from giving anywhere else) They are a pledge drive machine ... I laugh when they get waivers for local studios, it would cause a hardship, what a joke! Do not let them fool you they are the religous Clear Channel , if they had it heir way there woudl only be EMF Stations. As to the Air 1 format, they are not trying to compete with radiou on any level they do not want that age demographic. Very few people in that age demographic have money to pledge at least not in the high amounts they want. They are trying to get more male listeners who will not listen to their poppy K-Love format.

I get soooo tired of these posts. I can't even begin to explain how they exhaust me and simply annoy me to no end.

SO WHAT.

So what if EMF wants to dominate the niche? So what if they work the major donors? So what if they do business similiar to CC?

If a local station can't survive cut throat competition... they have bigger problems than whether or not that competition is cut throat or not.

Applying a blanket standard of "how those "Christians" ought to do business" is irresponsible and ignores stewardship, call, and mission. And you'd be hard pressed to find a standard every single person would agree on...but go for it... give it a shot...we'll see how that works out for you.

Yes, I'm on a bit of a rant... but give me a break...

Competition is not a bad thing. In fact, it spurs excellence...and that's what we're suppose to be about.

That is the standard we are called to.

So, one station can be excellent in dominating the niche if they like... and another can be excellent at failing to keep their ratings up, their donors satisfied, and their signal on the air...

your call.
 
Hey Radio Elizabeth.

I get "soooo tired" of these posts from people defending EMF yet they are not in the shoes of those who have lost their career from an EMF buyout! Why do you assume that every station that is bought by EMF is a station that "can't survive cut throat competition" or "excellent at failing to keep their ratings up, their donors satisfied, and their signal on the air"? In my situation the markets are being UNDERSERVED with EMF buying us out AND I'm without a job! Oh, but I atleast get to read posts from people such as yourself shoving their head up EMF's tail without knowing or asking anyone who HAS BEEN EFFECTED by EMF how it feels.

Just my 2 cents.

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Matt Baldridge
AKA PK "The Preachers Kid"

FORMER General Manager
Three Trees Communications
WWWD / WJYF / WTIF AM & FM

www.myspace.com/pkonair

229-805-7270 cell

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djmattshady said:
Hey Radio Elizabeth.

I get "soooo tired" of these posts from people defending EMF yet they are not in the shoes of those who have lost their career from an EMF buyout! Why do you assume that every station that is bought by EMF is a station that "can't survive cut throat competition" or "excellent at failing to keep their ratings up, their donors satisfied, and their signal on the air"? In my situation the markets are being UNDERSERVED with EMF buying us out AND I'm without a job! Oh, but I atleast get to read posts from people such as yourself shoving their head up EMF's tail without knowing or asking anyone who HAS BEEN EFFECTED by EMF how it feels.

Just my 2 cents.
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Matt Baldridge
AKA PK "The Preachers Kid"

FORMER General Manager
Three Trees Communications
WWWD / WJYF / WTIF AM & FM

www.myspace.com/pkonair

229-805-7270 cell

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to quote dr johnny fever..we all get fired eventually!!! it happens to EVERYONE in radio!!!! no matter the company!
 
Matt,

All God's best for you in your future endeavors. Having poured blood, sweat, and tears into various stations before the axe fell, I feel for you. It seems your previous station's owners didn't share your exact passion. I choose to pray for your previous target audience to be touched in whatever way, shape, or form He chooses. All the while (don't hate me), I cannot deny that EMF's vision, plan, execution, and adeptness at touching whomever THEY are led to reach has led to significant growth. If rumours of some of their employees' tactics are true, then I obviously admonish those who have crossed the line. But I will not hold difference in their vision versus mine against them, or slam them as the evil empire.

I still have to bite my tongue going back to discuss Telecom in '96. We can all debate the local versus syndicated argument til kingdom come: even the mighty Lite-FM, #1 in NYC, just knocked off 2 longtime starters (and another about a year ago).

Praying for you to receive comfort, direction, & the opportunity to see His next step for you, although I still don't follow why your anger is pointed more at EMF than at previous owners. And since common business sense (especially in broadcasting) tells us it's never wise to burn any bridges, I suggest you think and pray before venting. Now go & use your passion.

Everyone: Find a copy of Dr. Gerald Robison's "Cat and Dog Theology" (he spoke a my church, changed my life). I cannot recommend this book (and its related seminars) highly enough to those of us blessed with the opportunity to share in others' lives through Christian radio. Peace.
 
djmattshady said:
Hey Radio Elizabeth.

I get "soooo tired" of these posts from people defending EMF yet they are not in the shoes of those who have lost their career from an EMF buyout! Why do you assume that every station that is bought by EMF is a station that "can't survive cut throat competition" or "excellent at failing to keep their ratings up, their donors satisfied, and their signal on the air"? In my situation the markets are being UNDERSERVED with EMF buying us out AND I'm without a job! Oh, but I atleast get to read posts from people such as yourself shoving their head up EMF's tail without knowing or asking anyone who HAS BEEN EFFECTED by EMF how it feels.



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It's RADIO.

It's BROADCASTING.

It's called COMPETITION.

Personal feelings are not what this is about. We all risk losing our jobs. We all do.

I don't assume anything. My post was in reply to one that did.

If EMF bought your station out... take it up with the SELLERS.
 
But, Elizabeth, there's one thing you keep leaving out -- absolute dishonesty (and there really is no other way to say it) in fundraising. The only reason EMF has the money to make these buys is because they out-and-out lie to their audience. They lie. Yes, lie. Deceive. Intentionally.

Look, I'm laissez-faire and libertarian at heart, but, if you're going to take the stand you are, you're going to have to reconcile -- at least to yourself -- a supposed "Christian" organization lying to its audience, its contributors, its acquisition targets, and its industry.
 
neutralobserver said:
But, Elizabeth, there's one thing you keep leaving out -- absolute dishonesty (and there really is no other way to say it) in fundraising. The only reason EMF has the money to make these buys is because they out-and-out lie to their audience. They lie. Yes, lie. Deceive. Intentionally.

Look, I'm laissez-faire and libertarian at heart, but, if you're going to take the stand you are, you're going to have to reconcile -- at least to yourself -- a supposed "Christian" organization lying to its audience, its contributors, its acquisition targets, and its industry.

I am a big proponent of EMF's product quality as an alternative to much of the sludge that's out there. I've made no secret of the fact that I support EMF's right to proliferate and dominate if they can.

However, if what is being said here is true and something illegal is being done...action should be taken to correct it. I wouldn't know, because I've never paid much attention to their sharathons. I'm not familiar with EMF's fund-raising practices because anytime I hear a sharathon of ANY kind, I have to turn the channel. Sorry, I had a bad non-com experience years ago. =)

But does anyone know the specifics of this situation?
 
to quote dr johnny fever..we all get fired eventually!!! it happens to EVERYONE in radio!!!! no matter the company!


This is true. I think most of us have been there. It's intersting...some view it as a right of passage in this industry. If you've been in radio for any amount of time and haven't been fired, odds are that it's on the way soon. =)

I was fired years ago from a CCM gig. They eliminated my position because of voice-tracking. Not a personal decision. But nevertheless, they saved thousands of dollars in salary by letting me go. I was upset about it. But it became very clear to me (very quickly) that publicly running them down wasn't going to get me a new job any more quickly.

After all...if I was the kind of person to bad-mouth a company that released me over a business choice...how could I be trusted not to talk badly about someone who would consider hiring me next?

A nickel's-worth of free advice for those job hunting: Potential employers are listening (and reading). In the event that a person is let-go in a company cut-back or sale, it might be wise to keep things professional if we're really looking to get another job soon.
 
GaryTheThompson said:
I am a big proponent of EMF's product quality as an alternative to much of the sludge that's out there.

I am, too. They're definitely good at making radio.


However, if what is being said here is true and something illegal is being done...action should be taken to correct it.

I didn't say "illegal;" I don't know what the laws (if there are any) are. Here's where I'm coming from on this:

Lying to the audience -- telling them that their donations are needed to "keep their station fully-funded." "Funded" is a fascinating word in this case, is it not? The implication is that stations are individually "funded" and must be "funded" to "continue" on the air (between the words used and the tone in which they're said, there is the clear implication and threat that the station will not "continue" unless "fully funded"). Now, we all know that's not true; most of us know that is not how EMF operates its stations. Even their website admits that there's much money budgeted for signal "expansion" and "improvement." Plus, when it comes to their fundraisers, even two full weeks tend not to get them enough, and Dick Jenkins will take to the air in serious voice and tell the audience that "the board is going to have to prayerfully consider the next step, including what stations might have to be lost" when the truth is all actual operating costs were covered days back and "phase two" of the sharathon is already scheduled! (The next one, to supposedly cover the supposed "shortfall," has long been scheduled for December 27-30, in case you didn't know.)

Lying to its contributors -- telling them ("them" being individual and business donors even though business donors get nothing out of it) that their money is "needed" and even more would be great. In reality, even in the midst of a massive buying spree, EMF, over the last three years, has been raising an average of $12-13,000,000 per year over their expenses and was $8-9,000,000 over expenses the year or two before that. On top of that, the "expenses" have been growing significantly -- up 20+% in the last reported year alone -- and, yet, EMF is still $12-13,000,000 in the black. There is no reason not to believe that the nonprofit EMF has at least $50,000,000 sitting around in accounts and investments, but it is telling its donors more is better and is using on-air stories of crying women donors who literally don't know where their child's next meal is going to come from to inspire like giving and more giving; tell me, is it reasonable for a man making a half million a year to claim that money is "desperately needed" from a struggling single mother living in a crappy apartment in an unsafe neighborhood and feeding her kids generic cereal and peanut butter sandwiches every day? In addition, EMF will not readily disclose actual numbers to donors (you do not find it on the website or in the monthly mailings), preferring to use only nebulous pie charts without any dollar amounts. Furthermore, actually owning more and more stations, EMF has more and more vertical real estate from which to generate revenue, and I am not aware of a single public disclosure of that; it is very possible that tower leases alone could be paying stations' electric bills, probably the largest expense any single EMF station has.

Lying to acquisition targets -- owners have been told that, despite the network nature of the orgainzation, a strong local presence will be maintained. In reality, EMF will always go for a main-studio waiver and have a local presence only when it benefits them (in the form of soliciting donations, putting themselves before a large audience, and/or giving them the opportunity to load up their database of listeners and potential donors). And, if you'll notice, the EMF "regional reps" have been becoming fewer and are covering larger and larger geographic areas; regional reps can sometimes drive a full day and just barely reach the other end of their region for an event or appointment.

Lying to the industry -- this took place before I began following these formats, so I could be not exactly right, but it's my understanding that, early in this decade, Dick Jenkins stood up at a conference and told the attendees that EMF was all about bringing the format to places that would otherwise never have it and that they would never go into an area that already had a station doing Christian AC. Today, any of us in the business can probably list a dozen places that show that to be a lie.


Okay, that's why I say what I do. If someone can refute it or justify it, have at it; I do, actually, keep an open mind. I don't "hate" them or anything of the sort. I might even be happy to work with them at some point, but these particular aspects do and, should they continue, would always disturb me greatly.
 
neutralobserver said:
But, Elizabeth, there's one thing you keep leaving out -- absolute dishonesty (and there really is no other way to say it) in fundraising. The only reason EMF has the money to make these buys is because they out-and-out lie to their audience. They lie. Yes, lie. Deceive. Intentionally.

Look, I'm laissez-faire and libertarian at heart, but, if you're going to take the stand you are, you're going to have to reconcile -- at least to yourself -- a supposed "Christian" organization lying to its audience, its contributors, its acquisition targets, and its industry.

Don't tell me what I need to reconcile.

And don't make accusations on a board you can't back up.

My post stands.

It's not relevant what you think of EMF's practices.

It's RADIO.
 
radioelizabeth said:
...don't make accusations on a board you can't back up.

I'm not making accusations, at all. I'm telling you what anyone and everyone can hear right over the air and what anyone and everyone can find right in their IRS filings and submissions to ECFA, etc. Furthermore, you'll see that I immediately disavowed, repudiated, and disclaimed the use of words like "illegal" and "scandal."

It's not relevant what you think of EMF's practices.

That'd be an interesting idea if I had written what I think of EMF's practices, but I didn't.

Again, if you look, in the first two sections, I simply typed what anyone and everyone can hear right over the air and what anyone and everyone can find right in their IRS filings and submissions to ECFA, et al; the latter two sections obviously additionally require talking to the kinds of people who could have and would have witnessed these things, and I'm simply relaying their experiences. I've simply made neutral observations ;D...what I type is evidence, nothing more. You might suggest that my use of "dishonesty" and "lying" requires drawing a conclusion and is my thought or opinion; I would not agree with that because there are no other possible conclusions when what is said and what really is are exactly the opposite.


Don't tell me what I need to reconcile.

My post stands.

I'd liike to respond to this, but I won't do it in public. If you want, send me an email, and we'll toss it back and forth from there (be aware, though, I don't check that address as frequently as I check others; if I seemingly don't catch a response very quickly, it's certainly nothing personal).
 
neutralobserver said:
radioelizabeth said:
...don't make accusations on a board you can't back up.

I'm not making accusations, at all. I'm telling you what anyone and everyone can hear right over the air and what anyone and everyone can find right in their IRS filings and submissions to ECFA, etc. Furthermore, you'll see that I immediately disavowed, repudiated, and disclaimed the use of words like "illegal" and "scandal."

It's not relevant what you think of EMF's practices.

That'd be an interesting idea if I had written what I think of EMF's practices, but I didn't.

Again, if you look, in the first two sections, I simply typed what anyone and everyone can hear right over the air and what anyone and everyone can find right in their IRS filings and submissions to ECFA, et al; the latter two sections obviously additionally require talking to the kinds of people who could have and would have witnessed these things, and I'm simply relaying their experiences. I've simply made neutral observations ;D...what I type is evidence, nothing more. You might suggest that my use of "dishonesty" and "lying" requires drawing a conclusion and is my thought or opinion; I would not agree with that because there are no other possible conclusions when what is said and what really is are exactly the opposite.


Don't tell me what I need to reconcile.

My post stands.

I'd liike to respond to this, but I won't do it in public. If you want, send me an email, and we'll toss it back and forth from there (be aware, though, I don't check that address as frequently as I check others; if I seemingly don't catch a response very quickly, it's certainly nothing personal).

I don't care to have you writing me off this board. You have something to say, which you obviously think you do... you can say it here. My post stands...The concept of someone trying to determine what ought to be the "correct" way to do "Christian" radio is flawed. And your conclusions are just that your conclusions...and don't attempt to pass yourself off as neutral. There is bias in the fact that you even posted what you did. Most people in media realize this, I'm sure you did too... even what we select as "news", is bias by the nature that we chose it.

Again, it is RADIO.
 
That's BS RE! I learned a long time ago not to defend people that were wrong just because they were my friends or just because they were Christians. It only prolongs the the improper behavior.

Neural Observer pointed out some things you should know are true, unless you have never listened or never checked their 990.

For instance: "but it is telling its donors more is better and is using on-air stories of crying women donors who literally don't know where their child's next meal is going to come from to inspire like giving and more giving; tell me, is it reasonable for a man making a half million a year to claim that money is "desperately needed" from a struggling single mother living in a crappy apartment in an unsafe neighborhood and feeding her kids generic cereal and peanut butter sandwiches every day?"

This is very valid point. People should give because they want to and are able to, not because they are threatened that their local station might be going off the air.

Mr. Jenkins is knocking down $280k with benefits per year. I think that is outrageous considering he has called listeners that called in a 'listener complaint' during a slow pledge drive in 2003 'a members of the Christian Taliban...that shoots it's own wounded". Whoa!

This is same pledge drive which they said any stations not at 75% level would be "turned off at 12 noon Saturday". As the time deadline approached they changed it to 75% network wide. No small change there. It was an idle threat (or one heck of a turn-around) because that year same Mr. Jenkins made 225k and EMF was in the black by millions...

I know, I know it is RADIO.

...BS!

PS Here is their 990: http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2004/942/816/2004-942816342-01b801f1-9.pdf
 
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