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Emmis to Move 1070 TX Site

As for rimshots and 93.5, the frequency can go to Bloomington, Indiana as a new commercial rimshot.
But, the Indianapolis ratings tell me that radio's listeners are getting older. That's a real problem. And, I see no suggestions here to fix that. Young people are mostly getting their music, news, and weather from other sources online. And, I suspect most of you are out of broadcasting now. Can't blame you.
 
gr8oldies said:
No one wants to think this, but it's very possible 1070 just goes away.
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OK. Simplest solution. Diplex with WSYW 810. Close to 5 kW/0.015 U1 would definitely work. Closer to the center of Marion County. Problem solved.


This whole situation reminds me of the oil man from TX who filed for a license on an unbuilt facility. Agents for competitors went out and took pictures of the unbuilt site. FCC revoked the license and fined the oil man. The week or so before this happened, an engineering consultant offered to file and get the FCC to approve a CP MOD almost immediately to save the license, and for a very modest fee. The oil man told the engineer he wasn't interested. After years of silence, another owner filed, got a CP, and built a station on the frequency. It was a Class C2, and the previous engineering consultant racked up thousands in getting a Class C to downgrade to C0, and opened up a Class A to Class C2 upgrade allotment, in a rated Neilsen/Arbitron Market.
 
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Kent said:
WIBC moved off of 1070 for a reason.



I have wondered about that a little myself. During my brief time in Indy more than 20 years ago, I lived near 86th and Township Line Rd. I couldn’t get Hoosier Hot 96 on my home stereo. It sounded fine in my car, but I got nothing but noise on 96.3 at home. I couldn’t get WPZZ 95.9 either, though I was way outside its city grade signal contour. Funny thing was that I could get WKOA 105.3 and WWKI 100.5 consistently, though the latter was scratchy at times. WLEZ 102.7 was also a frequent catch, though I had to tune it manually because my seek wouldn’t stop on it. 95.1, 97.5, and 107.5 transmit from nearby and would likely come in, but I suspect the others would’ve been a tough haul. I don’t know how typical my experience was. I understand the FM and TV tower farm was nearby and may have caused my problems with WHHH.
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Back in the 1970's and 1980's, 96.3, 93.9, and 101.9 were ruined by intermod effects all over the city. And, these translator frequencies are channels not even a pirate would use.

But, there a a couple more frequencies that could be licensed for more translators in Indy.
They are also on top of other radio stations that can be heard in Indianapolis.
 
Flying_Dutchman said:
Back in the 1970's and 1980's, 96.3, 93.9, and 101.9 were ruined by intermod effects all over the city. And, these translator frequencies are channels not even a pirate would use.

But, there a a couple more frequencies that could be licensed for more translators in Indy.
They are also on top of other radio stations that can be heard in Indianapolis.
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Some of these translator frequencies work on paper but not in real life. We have had a couple of notorious examples here.
 
PTBoardOp94 said:
Let's assume for a minute that Emmis uses their 1 year silent period, and turns in the license in summer 2022, and the FCC puts 1070 Indianapolis up for auction in early 2023.

Is there an existing broadcaster in Indianapolis who would see lighting up 10kW days, 250W nights on 1070 as a big enough upgrade from their current scenario to justify the auction cost and the construction cost, in 2023 or 2024?
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It takes from five to ten or more years to start new radio stations with the FCC. How about 2034?
 
Schroedingers Cat said:
OK. Simplest solution. Diplex with WSYW 810. Close to 5 kW/0.015 U1 would definitely work. Closer to the center of Marion County. Problem solved.


This whole situation reminds me of the oil man from TX who filed for a license on an unbuilt facility. Agents for competitors went out and took pictures of the unbuilt site. FCC revoked the license and fined the oil man. The week or so before this happened, an engineering consultant offered to file and get the FCC to approve a CP MOD almost immediately to save the license, and for a very modest fee. The oil man told the engineer he wasn't interested. After years of silence, another owner filed, got a CP, and built a station on the frequency. It was a Class C2, and the previous engineering consultant racked up thousands in getting a Class C to downgrade to C0, and opened up a Class A to Class C2 upgrade allotment, in a rated Neilsen/Arbitron Market.
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The difference is that the oil man lied to get a license. Emmis isn't lying to anyone.
 
Nice to hear Chuck Riley for the first time in a long while. Really weird to hear Brooks & Dunn after it and not "From the WIBC 24 hour news center..." - old habits, ya know.

That also shows how much WFNI/WIBC was not "Radio Indiana" at night. I assume Bob collected that recording at his home, not that far out of Indianapolis, with his substantial DX rig... and I'd describe it as marginal reception.
 
PTBoardOp94 said:
Nice to hear Chuck Riley for the first time in a long while. Really weird to hear Brooks & Dunn after it and not "From the WIBC 24 hour news center..." - old habits, ya know.

That also shows how much WFNI/WIBC was not "Radio Indiana" at night. I assume Bob collected that recording at his home, not that far out of Indianapolis, with his substantial DX rig... and I'd describe it as marginal reception.
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I listened on Bob's SDR receiver and reception was even worse, even in a lobe. Both San Souci SC and Sarnia ONT were using day facilities at night. (CHOK is no stranger to that; when I lived in Lafayette IN CHOK dominated 1070 at night).
 
The same thing might happen to FM in the coming years . Can everyone say Alexa?
 
PTBoardOp94 said:
Nice to hear Chuck Riley for the first time in a long while. Really weird to hear Brooks & Dunn after it and not "From the WIBC 24 hour news center..." - old habits, ya know.

That also shows how much WFNI/WIBC was not "Radio Indiana" at night. I assume Bob collected that recording at his home, not that far out of Indianapolis, with
his substantial DX rig... and I'd describe it as marginal reception.
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Depends on location, distance and direction in the pattern.

CHOK on Day Pattern would dramatically increase the effective NIF. First approximation, to 25 mV/m, roughly the equivalent to a Class IV/Class C NIF. I'll go back later to the WNWI application that shows the calculation when I get the chance, and plug in CHOK on Day Pattern. Remember, that is close to 5 kW nondirectional equivalent.
 
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CHOK has been battling it out with Indy's 1070 in central Indiana for more than 20 years. Brownsburg and Noblesville were two Indianapolis suburbs where CHOK could be heard.
 
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