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End date for "All My Children"

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bpatrick

Saw on the news yesterday that ABC has announced that
the last episode of "All My Children" will air Friday, September 23.
At the time the cancellations of it and "One Life To Live" were
announced, the Alphabet Network said that "OLTL" would continue
until January, so I haven't heard when its last episode will air.

It still won't surprise me if, a year from now, ABC is announcing the
date of the last episode of "General Hospital," even though I saw in
Soap Opera Weekly the other day that it currently ranks third (behind
the two CBS soaps), and that "Days Of Our Lives" is last among the six
soaps. But I suspect, from that same issue, that the cast and crew on
"GH" know they're on the bubble, depending on how the ABC o&os intend
to schedule Katie Couric's new show.
 
bpatrick said:
It still won't surprise me if, a year from now, ABC is announcing the
date of the last episode of "General Hospital," even though I saw in
Soap Opera Weekly the other day that it currently ranks third (behind
the two CBS soaps), and that "Days Of Our Lives" is last among the six
soaps. But I suspect, from that same issue, that the cast and crew on
"GH" know they're on the bubble, depending on how the ABC o&os intend
to schedule Katie Couric's new show.
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If that happens, I would HOPE that ABC would let GH celebrate its 50th anniversary in 2013 (it premiered Apr. 1, 1963)--then maybe wrap up the show at the end of that year. Same with NBC and "Days of Our Lives" in 2015 (Days premiered Nov. 8, 1965).
 
If the two new shows are delivering a better bottom line result, there's no way to keep GH just to mark some arbitrary milestone. Business has to take priority over sentimentality.
 
I laugh at the fans of these shows because they cry their shows got canceled.

THEY GOT MONTHS notice and the storylines wrap up.

DARK SHADOWS wasn't as lucky back in 1971 and was weeks into a new storyline (PT 1891) when word came ABC was ending the show - and they had to rush an ending.

Head writer Sam Hall had to write a TV GUIDE article covering what they would have done story-wise over the next couple of years.

Still, DARK SHADOWS was syndicated in 1975,moved to Scifi Channel in 1992 and was released completely on VHS and DVD. No other soap can say that.
 
mysticnitekatt said:
Still, DARK SHADOWS was released completely on VHS and DVD. No other soap can say that.
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Yeah, I doubt that they will ever release "The Complete Definitive ALL MY CHILDREN on DVD.
 
While "GH" and "Days" both draw far fewer viewers than the 2 remaining CBS soaps, their audiences are both younger, and their 18-49 viewer numbers are higher. They are less on the bubble in that regard.

Still the economics of television will probably send "GH" packing in the next few years. It would be a shame if this happened before its 50th anniversary, though.
 
Madmansam said:
mysticnitekatt said:
Still, DARK SHADOWS was released completely on VHS and DVD. No other soap can say that.
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Yeah, I doubt that they will ever release "The Complete Definitive ALL MY CHILDREN on DVD.
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Would be kinda hard to do that since ABC didn't start saving eps on tape till 1976 (as a part of Agnes Nixon's contract renewal), only scattered kinescopes and/or tapes exist between 1970-1976.

Dan Curtis has to be considered a visionary for wanting to save all the Dark Shadows eps, even though there was no VHS, DVD, internet, or widely-available cable, much less any possible outlet for soap opera reruns at the time.
 
According to Wikipedia (use your own discretion about believing
this, but it certainly sounds plausible), "One Life To Live"'s last
episode will air January 20, 2012, with "The Revolution" debuting
Monday, January 23.

Re "Dark Shadows," I remember a few years back an effort being
made to collect all 1000+ episodes for airing in some form (DVD or
whatever). I assume that effort has been successful. (I remember
back in the mid and late '70s, first WXIA, then WTBS, aired the reruns
but don't recall if either had the entire package; I don't believe either
did.) Somebody correct me on this, but wasn't there a time when the
rerun package started with the arrival of Barnabas?
 
bpatrick said:
According to Wikipedia (use your own discretion about believing
this, but it certainly sounds plausible), "One Life To Live"'s last
episode will air January 20, 2012, with "The Revolution" debuting
Monday, January 23.

Re "Dark Shadows," I remember a few years back an effort being
made to collect all 1000+ episodes for airing in some form (DVD or
whatever). I assume that effort has been successful. (I remember
back in the mid and late '70s, first WXIA, then WTBS, aired the reruns
but don't recall if either had the entire package; I don't believe either
did.) Somebody correct me on this, but wasn't there a time when the
rerun package started with the arrival of Barnabas?
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Except for a handful of shows that exist as kinescopes (and one show only existing on audio) All 1225 episodes of DARK SHADOWS exist on 2" Video-tape.

The show was syndicated beginning in 1975 with the first 130 episodes of the Barnabas storyline, (Episode 210 or so) with several episodes re-edited to remove references to the previous storyline. Additional episodes were added over the years, with the exception of the ore-Barnabas episodes and the last year of storylines.

When the show moved to The Scifi Channel in the early 1990's, the complete series ran SEVERAL cycles - all the episodes uncut, including a restored version of the "missing" episode that only exists as an audio recording.
 
Saw on the news this morning a very brief announcement that
"AMC" and "OLTL" may continue to air new episodes on the Internet,
starting in September (don't know how this can be in the case of
"OLTL," since its last episode isn't until January). Anybody know
anything else about this?
 
A report says ABC is selling the rights to the shows to some soon-to-debut online startup. ABC also says the report as originally stated isn't fully accurate.

Really, though, if the economics don't work on TV, what on earth makes anyone think they'll work there? The ad or subscription revenue isn't going to cover the production costs. At best, it could be a short-term publicity stunt. But long term? Come on...if there were enough fans to make it profitable, those shows wouldn't be fading away.

ABC has nothing to lose. Sell the rights, pocket some cash, and move on.
 
Internet won't work because the economics aren't there. Most people will not subscribe to something they got for free for all these years. As for General Hospital, it's days are numbered because Katie Couric wants that time slot as part of her new deal with ABC. The only way GH survives is if one of the new talkers fails by the end of 2012, and it would have to be a real bomb since a talk show is cheaper than a soap opera to produce.
 
The only way this might, work is if they

-Trim the cast, and cut cost by 50%( wich they will have to regardless)
-Cut episodes, eg 3 new shows a week?
-Use a telenovel format( 8 week story arc?)
-Make the show work and look more like a cheap reality show.( have the people on the show look and act like they are on a reality show)
-Have it on you tube with adds built in that you cant skip.
 
Dtv said:
-Make the show work and look more like a cheap reality show.( have the people on the show look and act like they are on a reality show)
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Didn't P&G / CBS already try this with "The Guiding Light"?

We all saw how well THAT turned out! :D
 
Maybe they could use a tripod???

I did see guiding lights "new format".... nuff said

I think it may work, or it could be a huge fail, either way some will make some more money out this for a little longer ???
 
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