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End date for KUHA

Nebraska Good News has that call sign...

Speaking of call signs, did you know that the University of North Texas has an unofficial radio station. KUNT. No, the FCC didn't assign that call. There's a pirate station on that frequency. https://pirateradiodenton.bandcamp.com/

Thus, the -FM suffix. We've already covered this earlier. We'll see. Frog thinks it'll be a K*BJ call to go along with S, U, Z, Y, and X that already exist. I'm going with NGN-FM. It'll probably be something uninspired and anticlimactic like KUAA, changing just enough to get rid of the "UH" association.
 
Please clarify, Joe.
What is "new" about frequency modulation at 87.85MHz?
From this alone, your operation does not qualify under the "white space" rules.
Your transmitter may be type accepted for television use. Television audio is frequency modulated with a deviation of 25kHz ... one third the deviation for FM radio stations.
Your transmitter is not type accepted for use as an FM radio transmitter.
 
Cadco manufactures CATV modulators. They are NOT type accepted for broadcast use.
Broadcast transmitter MUST have crystal controlled oscillators. The frequency can't be changed by re-tuning a coil.
You really need to learn more about broadcast engineering.
 
And the bottom line here is that we wanted KJIB-LP reinstated, which the FCC couldn't do. As an alternate, FCC officials brought up the idea of using white space. Our white space registration for two devices on Channel 6 was accepted.

Not accepted by the FCC.
Your operation was accepted by a third party. You were to operate with a power output of 36 watts.
Your transmitter was operating at a power output of 72 watts.
 


Not accepted by the FCC.
Your operation was accepted by a third party. You were to operate with a power output of 36 watts.
Your transmitter was operating at a power output of 72 watts.

Sounds like pirate operation to me, Frank. Plus, using a cable modulator as a television oscillator is definitely not Kosher.
 
Getting back on topic, since the pirate polemics started after my last post this morning:

KUHA has ended Classical programming and is now running looped announcements including alternate ways to listen on 88.7 HD-2, TV 8.5, and online. Classical music was still there at 8:30 this morning but gone when I was next able to listen at 5:45pm. I suspect the station will go completely off the air tomorrow July 15. Although the K*BJ NGEN format will apparently launch on August 8, there may be some sort of stunting before that date.

Meanwhile the 91.3 translator was still on at a 5:45pm check, but with dead air, no announcements. Anyone who regularly listened to that signal might be somewhat out of the loop, as it had rebroadcast the 88.7 HD-2 programming, which didn't include all the "end of life" messages.

Thus ends 6 decades of analog Classical broadcasting at one place or another on the Houston FM band.
 
KUHA has ended Classical programming and is now running looped announcements including alternate ways to listen on 88.7 HD-2, TV 8.5, and online.

So, if that's the case, why spend $9.500,000.00 to purchase KTRU?
 
So, if that's the case, why spend $9.500,000.00 to purchase KTRU?

They had hoped the people of Houston would support classical music. They didn't. This came on the heels of a similar failure in Miami, where a group spent a lot of money on a group of stations covering Miami, Ft. Lauderdale, and West Palm Beach, and also was unable to raise enough money to stay alive. Now both cities are without classical music, and both have been replaced by Contemporary Christian stations, who are better at raising money than classical groups are.

On the other hand, the people of Seattle just donated $7 million to buy a public station from a small college to keep the station as it was, rather than be converted into a 24/7 jazz station. Seattle also has a 24/7 listener-sponsored classical station, a 24/7 listener supported alternative station, and a 24/7 listener-supported NPR station. One might wonder why Houston can't do what Seattle is able to do.
 
I always felt the price paid was too big to be supported by a classical format. Other cities in Texas with fulltime classical outlets I doubt could sustain themselves with that much debt. I know the San Antonio Classical station opted for Classical 24 versus local live delivery. I think KMFA in Austin is using Classical 24 in overnight hours. WRR remains local in Dallas but I wonder if their billing could support the debt.
 
I always felt the price paid was too big to be supported by a classical format. Other cities in Texas with fulltime classical outlets I doubt could sustain themselves with that much debt.

The mistake was taking it all as debt rather than building an endowment for the station before the purchase. That was the same exact mistake made in Miami. They found themselves with a $1 million per year loss. Not an easy thing for a non-profit to absorb. After a couple years of that, they sold to a religious broadcaster for $21 million.
 
I always felt the price paid was too big to be supported by a classical format. Other cities in Texas with fulltime classical outlets I doubt could sustain themselves with that much debt. I know the San Antonio Classical station opted for Classical 24 versus local live delivery. I think KMFA in Austin is using Classical 24 in overnight hours. WRR remains local in Dallas but I wonder if their billing could support the debt.

I guess classical listeners here in western New England can count themselves as extremely lucky. One can drive from New Haven practically to the Quebec line and not be out of range of a station playing classical music, at least in the daytime. Vermont Public Radio, in fact, has a decent-sized network of "VPR Classical" stations around the state -- some full power, some translators -- and manages to keep it staffed in-house during the day. Given that Vermont is sparsely populated, I wonder how the network manages to pay its way; there can't be too many donors out there. I'd think that public radio operations in bigger states -- like Texas -- could do the same thing. Why don't they? Demographics?
 
:cool:Frank,
Yes they need to be type accepted for the given service, Crystal oscillators in many cases are tweeked by adjusting a coil or a trimmer capacitor, and most transmitters with crystal control have adjustments for a slight change in frequency probably a few hundred HZ at the most, this is to compensate for slight differences in oscillator component values which can change due to ageing and be different than the ones in transmitter specs which the crystal company uses for a standard in grinding and calibrating the crystal. and the crystals them selves change frequency slightly over time and need to be adjusted back on frequency, But basically as You say it must be crystal controlled or crystal referenced as in most modern transmitters with computer controlled synthesized master oscillators.
 
I suspect it is not so much the lack of listeners to classical radio in Texas as much as it is the debt they took on. From what I see, the NPR News Talk format is king and the music based formats are pretty marginal in audience size and revenue. The issue is more about what you pay for the signal than what you put on the frequency. As one earlier post hinted, Classical works in Vermont. It obviously does. It could be getting a little change from the NPR News Talk or the classical side is based more on lower valued frequencies and translators to make it work.

Some say the classical music audience is growing but others say it is dying off. From what I can gather, it is a small but loyal audience. There are many listeners that are occasional listeners. There is even division among those listeners with the occasional more likely to want familiar classical works but is less likely to financially support the station and the core group that demands a wide variety and deep library hosted by people that know and understand the music. Discovery is still important in Classical radio to the point that part of what keeps it fresh to the core group is discovery of works, composers and performances of known works by different orchestras. A host that can tie that all together (ie: studied under X composer and I think you can hear that influence in this work, recently recorded for the first time, performed on period instruments...). Just like other formats, you can be too 'discovery' oriented to attract the occasional listener and you can be too 'familiar' to the point the core listener finds you too bland for their tastes.

Even with that said, Classical radio has changed over the years in just what they will play. You're not likely to hear a lengthy harpsichord work, for example. Classical radio has learned that some forms of classical music are just too much in big doses. Orchestral works and such predominate.

For Public Radio groups that have used the NPR News Talk format in drive times and classical the rest of the day are frequently forced to keep classical alive, mostly via a fulltime station. If a Public Radio group proposes dropping classical, there is usually quite an uproar from supporters who might only be occasional listeners. Public Radio is not really different than commercial radio in that they have to program for the money whether it is via donations and/or Underwriting and grants. Every entity wants to keep costs low should the station have a rough couple of years and anything that is marginal they want to 'go away' because at some point they'll be robbing Peter to pay Paul. The more cash Peter has the better they can stay out of financial trouble. They don't mind having Paul around as long as Peter doesn't become cash poor because of it.
 
Extremely small and fiercely loyal listeners is what keeps WRR going.

WRR is one of the last of a dying breed, along with WFMT Chicago: A commercial classical station. It helps that it's owned by the city. Interesting that in a Republican state, you can have a city-owned radio station. Even New York City sold WNYC-FM (although it retains WNYE). These are all heritage stations, owned for many years. But ownership is very important in terms of preserving the arts. It all boils down to some very rich patrons who are willing to pay lots of money to keep classical music on the radio. Obviously that doesn't exist in Houston.
 
Not to mention WRR has a decent commercial load as well. I recall a Wichita Falls station attempting Classical but never really getting anywhere I suspect because WRR had such a hold on the area and could do more that the local FM had the ability to do. The Wichita Falls station was automated versus live. The announcers really are a key part of the format success.
 
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