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midwestclubber
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I wonder, since now that Energy can be heard on Comcast, all over the Bay Area, will this help the stations numbers? Do people listening on Comcast, count in the Arbitrons?
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Harp
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"Do people listening on Comcast, count in the Arbitrons?"
Nope.
Nope.
H
Harp
Guest
I should clarify that by saying, it only counts if they mark their time spent lsitening in an Arbitron diary, those diaries are still the only thing that count.
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midwestclubber
Guest
> I should clarify that by saying, it only counts if they mark
> their time spent lsitening in an Arbitron diary, those
> diaries are still the only thing that count.
>
Okay, here is what I originally thought. It counts, as long as the person marks it, as if they were listening VIA radio. What is to stop a Comcast listener from saying they listen to Energy VIA 92.7??? I would...
> their time spent lsitening in an Arbitron diary, those
> diaries are still the only thing that count.
>
Okay, here is what I originally thought. It counts, as long as the person marks it, as if they were listening VIA radio. What is to stop a Comcast listener from saying they listen to Energy VIA 92.7??? I would...
H
Harp
Guest
> > I should clarify that by saying, it only counts if they
> mark
> > their time spent lsitening in an Arbitron diary, those
> > diaries are still the only thing that count.
> >
> Okay, here is what I originally thought. It counts, as long
> as the person marks it, as if they were listening VIA radio.
> What is to stop a Comcast listener from saying they listen
> to Energy VIA 92.7??? I would...
>
People can write whatever they want in the diaries whether it's true or not. That is why they aren't accurate. I think the industry is in for a shock if and when the Portable People Meter or something similar is used to calculate ratings. The system for radio is archaic and ridiculous.
> mark
> > their time spent lsitening in an Arbitron diary, those
> > diaries are still the only thing that count.
> >
> Okay, here is what I originally thought. It counts, as long
> as the person marks it, as if they were listening VIA radio.
> What is to stop a Comcast listener from saying they listen
> to Energy VIA 92.7??? I would...
>
People can write whatever they want in the diaries whether it's true or not. That is why they aren't accurate. I think the industry is in for a shock if and when the Portable People Meter or something similar is used to calculate ratings. The system for radio is archaic and ridiculous.
> People can write whatever they want in the diaries whether
> it's true or not. That is why they aren't accurate. I think
> the industry is in for a shock if and when the Portable
> People Meter or something similar is used to calculate
> ratings. The system for radio is archaic and ridiculous.
Then, there's that whole problem of getting a Comcast cable connection and a TV with audio into a moving car.
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> it's true or not. That is why they aren't accurate. I think
> the industry is in for a shock if and when the Portable
> People Meter or something similar is used to calculate
> ratings. The system for radio is archaic and ridiculous.
Then, there's that whole problem of getting a Comcast cable connection and a TV with audio into a moving car.
-OA<P ID="signature">______________
Ohio Media Watch - <a target="_blank" href=http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com>http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com</a></P>
I've got Dishnetwork & they have 99 channels of Sirus plus 30 Musac channels.
I should clarify that by saying, it only counts if they
> mark
> > their time spent lsitening in an Arbitron diary, those
> > diaries are still the only thing that count.
> >
> Okay, here is what I originally thought. It counts, as long
> as the person marks it, as if they were listening VIA radio.
> What is to stop a Comcast listener from saying they listen
> to Energy VIA 92.7??? I would...
>
I should clarify that by saying, it only counts if they
> mark
> > their time spent lsitening in an Arbitron diary, those
> > diaries are still the only thing that count.
> >
> Okay, here is what I originally thought. It counts, as long
> as the person marks it, as if they were listening VIA radio.
> What is to stop a Comcast listener from saying they listen
> to Energy VIA 92.7??? I would...
>
> Comcast already offers a bunch of Music Choice channels - I haven't counted, so I don't know how many. I find it hard to believe that there is a market for commercial radio for Comcast customer, when there are non-commercial alternatives for practically any format, with much longer playlists.
I've got Dishnetwork & they have 99 channels of Sirus plus
> 30 Musac channels.
>
> I should clarify that by saying, it only counts if they
> > mark
> > > their time spent lsitening in an Arbitron diary, those
> > > diaries are still the only thing that count.
> > >
> > Okay, here is what I originally thought. It counts, as
> long
> > as the person marks it, as if they were listening VIA
> radio.
> > What is to stop a Comcast listener from saying they
> listen
> > to Energy VIA 92.7??? I would...
> >
>
I've got Dishnetwork & they have 99 channels of Sirus plus
> 30 Musac channels.
>
> I should clarify that by saying, it only counts if they
> > mark
> > > their time spent lsitening in an Arbitron diary, those
> > > diaries are still the only thing that count.
> > >
> > Okay, here is what I originally thought. It counts, as
> long
> > as the person marks it, as if they were listening VIA
> radio.
> > What is to stop a Comcast listener from saying they
> listen
> > to Energy VIA 92.7??? I would...
> >
>
M
midwestclubber
Guest
> > Comcast already offers a bunch of Music Choice channels -
> I haven't counted, so I don't know how many. I find it hard
> to believe that there is a market for commercial radio for
> Comcast customer, when there are non-commercial alternatives
> for practically any format, with much longer playlists.
>
> Personally, I would take a LOCAL Dance station, over a Satelite musac jukebox any day
> I've got Dishnetwork & they have 99 channels of Sirus plus
> > 30 Musac channels.
> >
> > I should clarify that by saying, it only counts if they
> > > mark
> > > > their time spent lsitening in an Arbitron diary, those
>
> > > > diaries are still the only thing that count.
> > > >
> > > Okay, here is what I originally thought. It counts, as
> > long
> > > as the person marks it, as if they were listening VIA
> > radio.
> > > What is to stop a Comcast listener from saying they
> > listen
> > > to Energy VIA 92.7??? I would...
> > >
> >
>
> I haven't counted, so I don't know how many. I find it hard
> to believe that there is a market for commercial radio for
> Comcast customer, when there are non-commercial alternatives
> for practically any format, with much longer playlists.
>
> Personally, I would take a LOCAL Dance station, over a Satelite musac jukebox any day
> I've got Dishnetwork & they have 99 channels of Sirus plus
> > 30 Musac channels.
> >
> > I should clarify that by saying, it only counts if they
> > > mark
> > > > their time spent lsitening in an Arbitron diary, those
>
> > > > diaries are still the only thing that count.
> > > >
> > > Okay, here is what I originally thought. It counts, as
> > long
> > > as the person marks it, as if they were listening VIA
> > radio.
> > > What is to stop a Comcast listener from saying they
> > listen
> > > to Energy VIA 92.7??? I would...
> > >
> >
>
B
blackhole
Guest
I have been hoping for something like a portable people meter or something on telephone wires or SOMETHING that can tell what people are listening to and for how long. Arbitron is rediculous.
> > > I should clarify that by saying, it only counts if they
> > mark
> > > their time spent lsitening in an Arbitron diary, those
> > > diaries are still the only thing that count.
> > >
> > Okay, here is what I originally thought. It counts, as
> long
> > as the person marks it, as if they were listening VIA
> radio.
> > What is to stop a Comcast listener from saying they
> listen
> > to Energy VIA 92.7??? I would...
> >
>
> People can write whatever they want in the diaries whether
> it's true or not. That is why they aren't accurate. I think
> the industry is in for a shock if and when the Portable
> People Meter or something similar is used to calculate
> ratings. The system for radio is archaic and ridiculous.
>
> > > I should clarify that by saying, it only counts if they
> > mark
> > > their time spent lsitening in an Arbitron diary, those
> > > diaries are still the only thing that count.
> > >
> > Okay, here is what I originally thought. It counts, as
> long
> > as the person marks it, as if they were listening VIA
> radio.
> > What is to stop a Comcast listener from saying they
> listen
> > to Energy VIA 92.7??? I would...
> >
>
> People can write whatever they want in the diaries whether
> it's true or not. That is why they aren't accurate. I think
> the industry is in for a shock if and when the Portable
> People Meter or something similar is used to calculate
> ratings. The system for radio is archaic and ridiculous.
>
> Then, there's that whole problem of getting a Comcast cable
> connection and a TV with audio into a moving car.
>
>
>
> -OA
>
Nice, very nice.<P ID="signature">______________
If you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything...</P>
> connection and a TV with audio into a moving car.
>
>
>
> -OA
>
Nice
, very nice.<P ID="signature">______________If you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything...</P>
>
> People can write whatever they want in the diaries whether
> it's true or not. That is why they aren't accurate. I think
> the industry is in for a shock if and when the Portable
> People Meter or something similar is used to calculate
> ratings. The system for radio is archaic and ridiculous.
>
You're onto something Harp!
Until the day your radio can report results (most likely over IP) back to Arbitron we won't see any advancements in accuracy.
Imagine this, you've been in your car all day, you pull up to your house (that has DSL and WiFi) and your car radio sends a report to Arbitron about what you've listened to and how long you were listening... There you go.
I could be the next millionaire, EVERYONE will want that. Ok maybe not...<P ID="signature">______________
If you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything...</P>
> People can write whatever they want in the diaries whether
> it's true or not. That is why they aren't accurate. I think
> the industry is in for a shock if and when the Portable
> People Meter or something similar is used to calculate
> ratings. The system for radio is archaic and ridiculous.
>
You're onto something Harp!
Until the day your radio can report results (most likely over IP) back to Arbitron we won't see any advancements in accuracy.
Imagine this, you've been in your car all day, you pull up to your house (that has DSL and WiFi) and your car radio sends a report to Arbitron about what you've listened to and how long you were listening... There you go.
I could be the next millionaire, EVERYONE will want that.
Ok maybe not...<P ID="signature">______________If you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything...</P>
> I have been hoping for something like a portable people
> meter or something on telephone wires or SOMETHING that can
> tell what people are listening to and for how long. Arbitron
> is rediculous.
Arbitron has been develpoing the Portable People Meter for 15 years, and is currently doing the second test in the US in Houston. It is used in canada under licence, and in several other countries. Data on www.arbitron.com and click on People Meter link.
It does the same thing as the diary, but faster. Not much difference in the numbers, either.
> meter or something on telephone wires or SOMETHING that can
> tell what people are listening to and for how long. Arbitron
> is rediculous.
Arbitron has been develpoing the Portable People Meter for 15 years, and is currently doing the second test in the US in Houston. It is used in canada under licence, and in several other countries. Data on www.arbitron.com and click on People Meter link.
It does the same thing as the diary, but faster. Not much difference in the numbers, either.
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