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Engineering Salary Levels

No, I don't see a return. It would require a return to limited ownership (Think more like one owner, one engineer) which I don't see happening. Remember, in The Day, small and medium markets didn't offer benefits for the most oart. I was discussing this with a manager and his response was (Rregarding retirement, we had health coverage) This operation is full of young people moving up. The average tenure is two years. If I offered a choice between a hundred dollar rase and a pension plan, the great majority would go for the raise. I suspect he was right.

Today, we see much larger companies. Since they offer bennies in their large markets, they must do so in the smaller ones as well. Surely this enters into the Clear Channel decision to divest many markets. The numbers I heard were, those stations represented 30 percent of their HR costs, but only ten percent of their cash flow. I'd believe it. It will be interesting to see how those stations fare in the hands of smaller operators. And, will not this selloff make room for more engineers?
 
I agree those days are not coming back. There has been a shift in thinking. The transmitter plant is now like your central air conditioner. If you have another one you can go to, then it becomes something to call the repairment on when it breaks.

How many homeowners (except us geeks) do preventive maintenance on the HVAC, dishwasher, etc?

I for one don't see any shift in thinking back the other way, especially since the line between studio maintenance and an IT job is getting so blurred.
 
"Tho nothing can return the hour,
of Splendor in the Grass...
Glory in the flower...
We will grieve not,
But rather gain strength from that which remains behind." W. Wordsworth.

This is where we are.
Thanks JBI
 
jboydingram said:
"Tho nothing can return the hour,
of Splendor in the Grass...
Glory in the flower...
We will grieve not,
But rather gain strength from that which remains behind." W. Wordsworth.

This is where we are.
Thanks JBI

Wow. We make our money, despite the fading glory. I find myself in St. Louis, repairing assorted electronic/computer issues on a new
installation of an old printing press. A sensor transmitter/receiver infrared detector circuit is "funny" among other things.
I found the new replacement part incorrectly wired from the factory. Pairs were swapped.
Why couldn't anyone here fix this? I am the factory rep....I fixed it. 300 miles from home. No diffferent here from RF contract engineers.
Someday the difference between throwaway and repair may be better defined, but for now, we of electronics must
keep the things running. I'd like to be paid more, but since the customer has no in-house electronic/electrical/computer expertise,
I am the on-call engineer from the mfr.

This reminds me of Isaiah 40 verse 8, my mother's favorite bible verse...

The Grass withereth, the flower fadeth, but the word of our God shall stand forever.

Go ye threrefore and repair the various faults, knowing that the full measure of thine efforts are accorded in the volume of
experience and due competence. But be sure thou makest full accountance in negotiation for these powers in
trade for recompense, lest these powers be disrespected.

How else can engineers earn their true value?
 
Well, if we're going to go all cultured, here's a classic:

The moving finger writes, and having writ
Moves on. Nor all your piety nor wit
Shall cancel half a line.
Nor all your tears wash out a word of it.

-- Omar Khayyam

And, a bit more contemporary:

Sometimes I wonder what tomorrow's going to bring,
When I think about my dirty life and times.

--Warren Zevon
 
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