Enough already...

[NealH]

Never has a middling midday show on a low-rated FM talker generated so much banter. A lot of single-digit posters signing in to say the same things - "Gavin's an idiot," "Big Dick Sucks," "I loved Pugs & Kelly" - reminds me of the same shenanigans Russ and others have pulled in the past.

The harsh reality is that 99.99999% of the general populace could give 2 craps less about this board, yet we have all these "listeners" singing P&K's praises. I call BS.

 

[bucwhyl]

I agree. I thought that show was so bad. At least that's what I used to hear all of you say.

 

[northernlights]

Oh no! Are actual radio fans who never worked in radio and are not bitter about the business taking over your precious board? Well Gavin's an idiot, Big Dick sucks and I loved Pugs and Kelly.

 

[NealH]

Oh no! Are actual radio fans who never worked in radio and are not bitter about the business taking over your precious board? Well Gavin's an idiot, Big Dick sucks and I loved Pugs and Kelly.

Oh really? And how did you find out about the board? You see, being an old hat at the Internet I did several google searches to try to pin down Radio-Info and none of them generated first page hits. I see some schmo did post on Yahoo answers encouraging P&K's fans to "register and sign up" on radio-info but other than that there's next to nothing out there.

If you truly are a "listener" and not some lackey directed here by P&K themselves, I can answer why they aren't on the air anymore. Arbitron releases these things called ratings. They're used to quantify how many people are listening to your show, for how long they listen, how many of them are listening at one time, and how old they are. Ratings drive revenues. You don't generate them, you don't have a job. Obviously they're not the ratings juggernaut you thought they were or else they wouldn't be unemployed.

 

[jasonzbtzl]

Yeah, their revenue generated so poorly that CBS still sees it fit to continue to run "800-Dogs" commercial with Pug still saying, "hey it's Pugs from the mid-day show". ???

 

[NealH]

Yeah, their revenue generated so poorly that CBS still sees it fit to continue to run "800-Dogs" commercial with Pug still saying, "hey it's Pugs from the mid-day show". ???

It's called laziness and like every business radio has its fair share of it. When ESPN 103.3 first came on the air they ran a spot for a restaurant in "Flower Uh Mound" for weeks before it either expired or they changed it.

There's a spot running now for a car dealership I think that says it's on "Forest Lanes" or "Forests Lane"

 

[NealH]

I haven't worked for CBS in 4 years, and even then I didn't work at Carpenter. I worked at Fitzhugh. I've never met Gavin, Russ, or Pugs & Kelly.

In fact I haven't worked in radio in over a year. I quit The Wolf in March of '07 just 3 days before Jon Sebastian killed the station.

Unlike you, I use my real name. There are a handful of people that troll in here who know who I am. The same cannot be said of your ilk, most of whom have registered in the last three days and have added next to nothing to the discussion.

 

[jasonzbtzl]

Well Jason is my real name, and even though I do not share your vast years of experience in radio, I do have a fair bit of common sense. You call it laziness, I call it clue to a decline. The only reason I could see them still doing it is contractual, and even then, if they had an ounce of "Fire" under them, or decency, they would contact "the Dogs" and say, "hey we let P&K go, so we are going to re- produce the spot with different talent, or we will remove mention of the released talent, or we will run another of your spots with still employed talent"

Either way it reeks of un-professionalism and I agree with your assessment, is lazy. Now for your comment about recently signing up, well that may be true, but for someone with such vast radio knowledge should know, you should welcome interest into your chosen field, or are you just howlin at the moon, over sour wolf turds???

 

[Dndsh237]

Never has a middling midday show on a low-rated FM talker generated so much banter. A lot of single-digit posters signing in to say the same things - "Gavin's an idiot," "Big Dick Sucks," "I loved Pugs & Kelly" - reminds me of the same shenanigans Russ and others have pulled in the past.

The harsh reality is that 99.99999% of the general populace could give 2 craps less about this board, yet we have all these "listeners" singing P&K's praises. I call BS.

If you don't like the topics, then don't read the threads.

 

[Orphanedcowboy]

Oh really? And how did you find out about the board? You see, being an old hat at the Internet I did several google searches to try to pin down Radio-Info and none of them generated first page hits.

Quit using Google then:

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=radio+forums&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz2

I believe it would be the fourth one down?

Just because someone doesn't work in R-A-D-I-oh doesn't mean they know nothing about it, there are message boards for just about everything. I for one don't like anyone/anything on 105.3 except Loveline, but I will say that if your so fed up with radio in general, quit and find another job. Y'all are like a bunch of whine bags, complain about formats, complain about format changes. I am beginning to think there is a reason you play records and not program stations, because you are out of touch with what people want to hear. Not everyone wants to hear oldies or talk. We yearn to be entertained, and believe it or not P & K had a following, and their fans are upset and until they find something else to fill in the void, they will be upset.

I have 2 80 gb Zunes with nearly 30,000 songs between them, and I would bet there are several artist most of you have never heard of. I frequent these boards to see whats up, get a little gossip, but I rarely listen to broadcast radio. I get recommendations from friends, Zune Marketplace member play lists, and Radio Free Texas internet radio. The Marketplace and Radio Free Texas each cost me $15 a month, that is money well spent not to here the same drivel broadcast daily. I program my Zune's with play lists, and guess what I have my own, advertisement/talk free radio station. I also have a free lifetime subscription to XM, I listen to about 5 or 6 stations on it when I am in the mood or to find new artists.

PS Neal if you want my name, PM me and I'll give you my real name and a number you can call to talk to me, i have had this screen name since my online gaming days, derived from the fact that I was a cowboy and I am an orphan.

 

[jasonzbtzl]

"and he kicked him in the ding-ding" - Eddie Murphy



*well put cowboy

 

[northernlights]

Amen, Cowboy. If you don't like something, don't listen to it, and if you don't like a topic on a message board don't read the thread. These people who complain a lot about P&K, sure do know a lot about their show. I guess they have nothing better to do, than to listen to a show and tear it apart. But I guess if I was fired from a station like the Wolf, and could not get another job in radio, I would probably try to hate on the people who were more successful than me also.

 

[DFWRADIO]

Amen, Cowboy. If you don't like something, don't listen to it, and if you don't like a topic on a message board don't read the thread. These people who complain a lot about P&K, sure do know a lot about their show. I guess they have nothing better to do, than to listen to a show and tear it apart. But I guess if I was fired from a station like the Wolf, and could not get another job in radio, I would probably try to hate on the people who were more successful than me also.

Once again talking about stuff you know nothing about. Neal don't let people bother you. They will soon be gone and off to their otherwide mediocre lives. Probobly a bunch of graduates in the American Broadcasting School who couldn't get a gig above market #220. (Thanks Bangor Maine btw). Here are some other addresses you guys can post your P&K comments... www.allaccess.com and www.poundsand.com

 

[Orphanedcowboy]

Once again talking about stuff you know nothing about. Neal don't let people bother you. They will soon be gone and off to their otherwide mediocre lives. Probobly a bunch of graduates in the American Broadcasting School who couldn't get a gig above market #220. (Thanks Bangor Maine btw). Here are some other addresses you guys can post your P&K comments... www.allaccess.com and www.poundsand.com

I am 43 years old, I have been working in the aviation industry for well over 20 years, funny thing is, no college or broadcasting school here, and I can spell

Good thing you talk for a living, too bad you have nothing creative to say.........exactly how many people pay to hear good radio:

As of Feb 28,2008, XM claims over 9 million subscribers, while Sirius claimed 7.6 million as of October 30, 2007

 

[Dndsh237]

Once again talking about stuff you know nothing about. Neal don't let people bother you. They will soon be gone and off to their otherwide mediocre lives. Probobly a bunch of graduates in the American Broadcasting School who couldn't get a gig above market #220. (Thanks Bangor Maine btw). Here are some other addresses you guys can post your P&K comments... www.allaccess.com and www.poundsand.com

Never attended ABS, and I have a radio gig in a Top 10 market, thanks. :-*

 

[JoenTX]

Oh really? And how did you find out about the board? You see, being an old hat at the Internet I did several google searches to try to pin down Radio-Info and none of them generated first page hits.


Quit using Google then:

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=radio+forums&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz2

I believe it would be the fourth one down?



I stumbled onto this place around a year or so ago..........just watched from the sidelines and read the bitterness of the "wannabees." I dont' even remember how I found this place to be honest with you. Me? I'm just an avid radio listener and have been since childhood.

I have no dog in this P&K deal, listened a little over the years but not enough to really have a vote in the matter, but I tend to agree with many of the others who think that Gavin wanted to throw his weight around and was able to do it with the P&K show and now we see the results. For God's sake, he's had KRLD for years now and look at it....some weird mish-mash of mostly news with a little cold-fish talk thrown in at midday.....what's his plan there???

But, then again I'm just average listener dude out here in radioland who picks-up on what he hears coming over the airwaves. Screw me.....

 

[little1]

Good thing you talk for a living, too bad you have nothing creative to say.........exactly how many people pay to hear good radio:

As of Feb 28,2008, XM claims over 9 million subscribers, while Sirius claimed 7.6 million as of October 30, 2007

Good radio, that has yet to figure outhow to make a profit.

You may not like the way the major radio companies run their buisness, but at least they realize it's a buisness and most have figured out how to make money. IIRC, Both XM and Sirius have yet to ever make a quarterly profit.

And then throw in that somewhere between 25-40% (IIRC) of their subscribers aren't even paying for the service (thanks to the automakers who were willing to take massive blocks of stock to put XM&Sirius in their cars)(And whay wouldn't they, they get stock, which they could turn around and sell,(and make money$$) AND XM and Sirius subsidizes the installation of XM and Sirius equipped radios in their cars, saving them even more$$$) , and around 2% a month (or 25% a year stop subscribing, and we see that there aren't nearly as many people 'paying for good radio' as they'd like to have you believe.

 

[Orphanedcowboy]

Good thing you talk for a living, too bad you have nothing creative to say.........exactly how many people pay to hear good radio:

As of Feb 28,2008, XM claims over 9 million subscribers, while Sirius claimed 7.6 million as of October 30, 2007

Good radio, that has yet to figure outhow to make a profit.

You may not like the way the major radio companies run their buisness, but at least they realize it's a buisness and most have figured out how to make money. IIRC, Both XM and Sirius have yet to ever make a quarterly profit.

And then throw in that somewhere between 25-40% (IIRC) of their subscribers aren't even paying for the service (thanks to the automakers who were willing to take massive blocks of stock to put XM&Sirius in their cars)(And whay wouldn't they, they get stock, which they could turn around and sell,(and make money$$) AND XM and Sirius subsidizes the installation of XM and Sirius equipped radios in their cars, saving them even more$$$) , and around 2% a month (or 25% a year stop subscribing, and we see that there aren't nearly as many people 'paying for good radio' as they'd like to have you believe.

The numbers I mentioned were directly out of the FCC's documents on the merger, so I highly doubt that either company has a vested interest in lying to the government when a merger/acquisition is on the line that may or may not bring them into the black. I could care less how the business is ran, but as far as radio goes it IS being ran into the ground.

I can listen to regular radio, but don't insult my intelligence with the dumb hole keeping everyone in line, "OH You Guy's", the corny jingles, and sweepers, the so safe banter, entertain me, make me want to listen, make me late for work because I don't want to turn off the radio.

The fact is, it isn't really your fault, it is the American public. They have you so afraid they might hear an off color skit, joke or banter and run to the FCC or your advertisers, you no longer can do "edgy" radio.

Everyone jumped shipped on Imus, instead of banding together and getting behind him and making it a non issue. But the majority, from Mancow, Bubba, and Howard, all pointed and laughed and thought it was funny he was being hung out. Well if you don't start banding together it very well could be you next time.

With Digital Audio Workstations advancing daily, when will you be obsolete?

 

[dmburrows]

I found this forum thanks to a search for Pugs & Kelly.

and I just joined... you lucky people.