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Entercom Changes - WRKO, KIRO

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Tom_

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I see from this board that WRKO is changing... Very interesting because at 710 KIRO/Seattle, midday host Allan Prell and evening host Tony Ventrella left in the last week...after only 9 months on the air...

What will change with WRKO? Will similar changes occur with KIRO? Are there any parallels in programming philosophy from the corporate level? Or are the changes at two Entercom owned stations isolated at the level of local management? Gene Burns at WRKO?

<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by this Tom: on 09/29/05 08:42 AM.</FONT></P>
 
That's like saying that because Z100 in NY made a programming change in it's lineup, that means there will be similar changes at KIIS FM in LA. Same company, but not related.

Same here.

> I see from this board that WRKO is changing... Very
> interesting because at 710 KIRO/Seattle, midday host Allan
> Prell and evening host Tony Ventrella left in the last
> week...after only 9 months on the air...
>
> What will change with WRKO? Will similar changes occur with
> KIRO? Are there any parallels in programming philosophy
> from the corporate level? Or are the changes at two
> Entercom owned stations isolated at the level of local
> management? Gene Burns at WRKO?
>
 
> That's like saying that because Z100 in NY made a
> programming change in it's lineup, that means there will be
> similar changes at KIIS FM in LA. Same company, but not
> related.

Well, some companies do fall in line like little Ducklings.

If the kingpin in the company makes a change....the rest sometimes follow suite.

Corperate think......trickles downward.
 
some companies do fall in line like little Ducklings.
>
> If the kingpin in the company makes a change....the rest
> sometimes follow suite.
>
> Corperate think......trickles downward.

And sometimes, stations in one company just use what's already working at other stations in the company in other markets.

Evidence: WBZ's co-opting some of New York sister station WINS' approach to delivering the news.
 
Careful about WBZ/WINS/KDKA, KFWB etc...

> some companies do fall in line like little Ducklings.
> >
> > If the kingpin in the company makes a change....the rest
> > sometimes follow suite.
> >
> > Corperate think......trickles downward.
>
> And sometimes, stations in one company just use what's
> already working at other stations in the company in other
> markets.
>
> Evidence: WBZ's co-opting some of New York sister station
> WINS' approach to delivering the news.
>

Not exactly.
First, WBZ and WINS are the same Continuous News Radio format, so naturally they sound similar. But WBZ and WINS are unique, because these stations were part of a much smaller group (Westinghouse/Group W), and previously shared much imaging. If you are talking about imaging like traffic beds, it's easier and cheaper to just use the same beds for several stations.

But not all of CBS's News stations sound the same. KRLD in Dallas sounds different, as does WCBS AM 880, KCBS 740, and KNX (which distinctly sounds different, retaining most of it's original heritage sound).

The fact that WBZ/KFWB/KDKA/KYW and WINS sound the same really has more to do with heritage than current ownership. Programming Talk radio is a whole different animal, imo.
 
Re: Careful about WBZ/WINS/KDKA, KFWB etc...

Interesting.
So you're suggesting, if I follow what you're saying, that the original Westinghouse stations still retain some of that shared identity, even this many years after (paraphrasing a November/December 1995 aritcle from fair.org) the number 1 nuclear company bought what was then the number 3 network?
It certainly makes sense.

> > some companies do fall in line like little Ducklings.
> > >
> > > If the kingpin in the company makes a change....the rest
>
> > > sometimes follow suite.
> > >
> > > Corperate think......trickles downward.
> >
> > And sometimes, stations in one company just use what's
> > already working at other stations in the company in other
> > markets.
> >
> > Evidence: WBZ's co-opting some of New York sister station
>
> > WINS' approach to delivering the news.
> >
>
> Not exactly.
> First, WBZ and WINS are the same Continuous News Radio
> format, so naturally they sound similar. But WBZ and WINS
> are unique, because these stations were part of a much
> smaller group (Westinghouse/Group W), and previously shared
> much imaging. If you are talking about imaging like traffic
> beds, it's easier and cheaper to just use the same beds for
> several stations.
>
> But not all of CBS's News stations sound the same. KRLD in
> Dallas sounds different, as does WCBS AM 880, KCBS 740, and
> KNX (which distinctly sounds different, retaining most of
> it's original heritage sound).
>
> The fact that WBZ/KFWB/KDKA/KYW and WINS sound the same
> really has more to do with heritage than current ownership.
> Programming Talk radio is a whole different animal, imo.
>
 
Re: Careful about WBZ/WINS/KDKA, KFWB etc...

Well, I'm not sure where you are going with that remark.
I do not see what the "nuclear company" thing as to do with this. If that is intended as some kind of political statement, then it has no place on this board (IMO).

But yes, I think they do share some shared identity. This is mostly because of their heritage, and from people who have worked there for a long time who are still there (and my best wishes to LaPierre who I grew up listening to). I believe that one of the gentlemen who was in charge of WBZ's programming, started with Group W in another market, and has been instrumental in the News Radio format that these stations have. I forgot his name, unfortunately. But I did read an article about it in Radio and Records some years back.

-G.

> Interesting.
> So you're suggesting, if I follow what you're saying, that
> the original Westinghouse stations still retain some of that
> shared identity, even this many years after (paraphrasing a
> November/December 1995 aritcle from fair.org) the number 1
> nuclear company bought what was then the number 3 network?
> It certainly makes sense.
>
> > > some companies do fall in line like little Ducklings.
> > > >
> > > > If the kingpin in the company makes a change....the
> rest
> >
> > > > sometimes follow suite.
> > > >
> > > > Corperate think......trickles downward.
> > >
> > > And sometimes, stations in one company just use what's
> > > already working at other stations in the company in
> other
> > > markets.
> > >
> > > Evidence: WBZ's co-opting some of New York sister
> station
> >
> > > WINS' approach to delivering the news.
> > >
> >
> > Not exactly.
> > First, WBZ and WINS are the same Continuous News Radio
> > format, so naturally they sound similar. But WBZ and WINS
> > are unique, because these stations were part of a much
> > smaller group (Westinghouse/Group W), and previously
> shared
> > much imaging. If you are talking about imaging like
> traffic
> > beds, it's easier and cheaper to just use the same beds
> for
> > several stations.
> >
> > But not all of CBS's News stations sound the same. KRLD in
>
> > Dallas sounds different, as does WCBS AM 880, KCBS 740,
> and
> > KNX (which distinctly sounds different, retaining most of
> > it's original heritage sound).
> >
> > The fact that WBZ/KFWB/KDKA/KYW and WINS sound the same
> > really has more to do with heritage than current
> ownership.
> > Programming Talk radio is a whole different animal, imo.
> >
>
 
Re: Careful about WBZ/WINS/KDKA, KFWB etc...

I wasn't going anywhere with the remark. It was in some article on some website I viewed while trying to remember which company bought which in the Westinghouse/CBS merger.

> Well, I'm not sure where you are going with that remark.
> I do not see what the "nuclear company" thing as to do with
> this. If that is intended as some kind of political
> statement, then it has no place on this board (IMO).
>
> But yes, I think they do share some shared identity. This is
> mostly because of their heritage, and from people who have
> worked there for a long time who are still there (and my
> best wishes to LaPierre who I grew up listening to). I
> believe that one of the gentlemen who was in charge of WBZ's
> programming, started with Group W in another market, and has
> been instrumental in the News Radio format that these
> stations have. I forgot his name, unfortunately. But I did
> read an article about it in Radio and Records some years
> back.
>
> -G.
>
> > Interesting.
> > So you're suggesting, if I follow what you're saying,
> that
> > the original Westinghouse stations still retain some of
> that
> > shared identity, even this many years after (paraphrasing
> a
> > November/December 1995 aritcle from fair.org) the number 1
>
> > nuclear company bought what was then the number 3 network?
>
> > It certainly makes sense.
> >
> > > > some companies do fall in line like little Ducklings.
>
> > > > >
> > > > > If the kingpin in the company makes a change....the
> > rest
> > >
> > > > > sometimes follow suite.
> > > > >
> > > > > Corperate think......trickles downward.
> > > >
> > > > And sometimes, stations in one company just use what's
>
> > > > already working at other stations in the company in
> > other
> > > > markets.
> > > >
> > > > Evidence: WBZ's co-opting some of New York sister
> > station
> > >
> > > > WINS' approach to delivering the news.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Not exactly.
> > > First, WBZ and WINS are the same Continuous News Radio
> > > format, so naturally they sound similar. But WBZ and
> WINS
> > > are unique, because these stations were part of a much
> > > smaller group (Westinghouse/Group W), and previously
> > shared
> > > much imaging. If you are talking about imaging like
> > traffic
> > > beds, it's easier and cheaper to just use the same beds
> > for
> > > several stations.
> > >
> > > But not all of CBS's News stations sound the same. KRLD
> in
> >
> > > Dallas sounds different, as does WCBS AM 880, KCBS 740,
> > and
> > > KNX (which distinctly sounds different, retaining most
> of
> > > it's original heritage sound).
> > >
> > > The fact that WBZ/KFWB/KDKA/KYW and WINS sound the same
> > > really has more to do with heritage than current
> > ownership.
> > > Programming Talk radio is a whole different animal, imo.
>
> > >
> >
>
 
Re: Careful about WBZ/WINS/KDKA, KFWB etc...

> I wasn't going anywhere with the remark. It was in some
> article on some website I viewed while trying to remember
> which company bought which in the Westinghouse/CBS merger.
>

Ok.

-G.
 
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