Under the headline Old News That Should Have Been Discussed Here, the trades last week reported that Entercom Rochester gave the night guy at WPXY a one way ticket to the beach and handed the shift over to their promo dog. It really sucks when the night guy is let go at a CHR. Is WDKX kicking PXY's assets that badly? If so, more props to DKX, the market's stand FM alone that's more than a stone in the big boys' shoes.
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Entercom Cuts at WPXY
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Promo dog?
Really now. Is that a nice thing to say?
Really now. Is that a nice thing to say?
It looks like 'DKX IS kicking PXY's butt - and Clear Channel's Kiss' ass as well. Good for them. I'll bet that THEY don't have a mountain of debt looming over them.
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While it is truly unfortunate that Kasper lost his gig, "promo dog"? Really? That "promo dog" is a very talented, extremely bright recent grad from SUNY Geneseo who works his butt off and deserves every opportunity he gets to show his stuff. These are very tough times and opportunities to break into this business are few and far between. This guy takes the chance to work even harder to invest in his future and you decide he is nothing more than a "promo dog" wow, nice guy! :-[
Let me guess. He:
A. Works cheaper.
B. Isnt' giving up his promo gig.
Result? Cost reduction for a station that's getting kicked around anyway.
Go for it, Promo Dog. Sorry if the rest of us aren't as impressed as you are. BTW, most of the guys on this board have gone through a very similar process working our way up the food chain. The biggest difference is that we didn't start out in a top 60 market - Geneseo education not withstanding.
Good Luck with the gig, I we all hope that you succeed. Until you do, you'll still be Promo Dog. Welcome to broadcasting.
A. Works cheaper.
B. Isnt' giving up his promo gig.
Result? Cost reduction for a station that's getting kicked around anyway.
Go for it, Promo Dog. Sorry if the rest of us aren't as impressed as you are. BTW, most of the guys on this board have gone through a very similar process working our way up the food chain. The biggest difference is that we didn't start out in a top 60 market - Geneseo education not withstanding.
Good Luck with the gig, I we all hope that you succeed. Until you do, you'll still be Promo Dog. Welcome to broadcasting.
On a board where posters have thrown around terms like "sales ducks," "sales pigs," "suits," "bean counters," "prize pigeons" and other words far more disparaging, the word "promodog" raises some people's ire? WTF?!
A "promodog" is a common term for promotion men and women in the radio business; most often used to describe how Promo Directors work their asses off... like dogs; they're usually loyal as hell... like dogs; and they take commands from sales people and PDs and get the job done... like dogs. Follow the connection? Oh, and they're cute and lovable. Now, does that make it all better? Doesn't that band aid feel good? Now go run along and play with the rest of the boys and girls.
Perhaps the term "promo maven" should have been used in the original post. (How's your Yiddish?) Would that have made it better, nicer, softer, more cuddly? GMAB! It's a tough rat bastard business.
The point is and was, Entercom hacked their night guy and gave the job to another guy on the staff (who, according to his legion of fan, is most deserving.) This guy's now doing double duty. Very likely Doyle didn't double the guy's pay. Hopefully, he got a nice bump. His Geneseo education no doubt prepared him well, but nothing short of being in the trenches will prepare him for what's going on now and what may be coming. Let me take this opportunity to wish him well. Mazel tov! Maybe he'll rise through the ranks and someday become a GM or RVP. (What's that? You have to go to SUNY Jockport or St. John Fisher to do that? Oh, sorry.) Good luck, promodog!
BTW, thick skin also helps, as does use of the [sarcasm/] filter. Don't forget the "laugh test" (as in, "this sales proposal doesn't pass the laugh test") and the bullsh*t detector, which has been upgraded by the manufacturer and now comes in a heavy duty-industrial model.
A "promodog" is a common term for promotion men and women in the radio business; most often used to describe how Promo Directors work their asses off... like dogs; they're usually loyal as hell... like dogs; and they take commands from sales people and PDs and get the job done... like dogs. Follow the connection? Oh, and they're cute and lovable. Now, does that make it all better? Doesn't that band aid feel good? Now go run along and play with the rest of the boys and girls.
Perhaps the term "promo maven" should have been used in the original post. (How's your Yiddish?) Would that have made it better, nicer, softer, more cuddly? GMAB! It's a tough rat bastard business.
The point is and was, Entercom hacked their night guy and gave the job to another guy on the staff (who, according to his legion of fan, is most deserving.) This guy's now doing double duty. Very likely Doyle didn't double the guy's pay. Hopefully, he got a nice bump. His Geneseo education no doubt prepared him well, but nothing short of being in the trenches will prepare him for what's going on now and what may be coming. Let me take this opportunity to wish him well. Mazel tov! Maybe he'll rise through the ranks and someday become a GM or RVP. (What's that? You have to go to SUNY Jockport or St. John Fisher to do that? Oh, sorry.) Good luck, promodog!
BTW, thick skin also helps, as does use of the [sarcasm/] filter. Don't forget the "laugh test" (as in, "this sales proposal doesn't pass the laugh test") and the bullsh*t detector, which has been upgraded by the manufacturer and now comes in a heavy duty-industrial model.
Yeah, what "E" said...
And, make sure to keep your skirt tight around your knees. Otherwise, there will be lots of people trying to blow sunshine up it - but NOT offering you more money or resources.
And, make sure to keep your skirt tight around your knees. Otherwise, there will be lots of people trying to blow sunshine up it - but NOT offering you more money or resources.
It seems that there are certain names given to the people who are STILL IN radio, like "promo dog" or "sales pig, or "suits" etc. Let give some titles to the folks outside looking in, which is from i can guess, a big part of this board clientle. Names like "has beens" "washed up", schleps, etc. We never seem to focus anything negative on people who are not even in the business, but who think they should be. Give the "promo Dog" some credit will ya, we have all replaced someone else at one point.
Hard work does pay off (in the long run). I say "Good luck, Promodog/Maven/Centipede!" Maybe he will get the starring role in "Promodog Millionaire," directed by Michael Bay and narrated by Ryan Seacrest!
superset weekend said:It seems that there are certain names given to the people who are STILL IN radio, like "promo dog" or "sales pig, or "suits" etc. Let give some titles to the folks outside looking in, which is from i can guess, a big part of this board clientle. Names like "has beens" "washed up", schleps, etc. We never seem to focus anything negative on people who are not even in the business, but who think they should be. Give the "promo Dog" some credit will ya, we have all replaced someone else at one point.
In the radio business, anybody can be a budding superstar: Account Executive. Promotions Director. Air Personality.
Notirateuser86 said:Hard work does pay off (in the long run). I say "Good luck, Promodog/Maven/Centipede!" Maybe he will get the starring role in "Promodog Millionaire," directed by Michael Bay and narrated by Ryan Seacrest!
Something about that scene where the young boy, locked inside an outhouse yet so desperate to get the autograph of a superstar who visits the slums of Bombay, drops into a cesspool and, covered with excrement, gets the autograph. Somewhere there's a corelatation bgetween that scene and the radio business.
I like those analogies, good stuff element. My point was that everyone's role is important, nothing should be taken for granted. In or out of the business, new or old timer, we are all just doing the best we can.
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