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Entercom's HD Signal Quality

I have a 2020 Hyundai Tucson with HD radio. I live less than 10 miles east of Philly and the HD signals for 98.1 and 101.1 are horrible. They keep dropping out and on some days don't even exist. Anyone else having the same experience. 102.9 and 95.7's HD signals always come in strong.
 
I noticed the HD signal of 98.1 is weaker. I could only pick it up within 30 miles of Roxborough. WMGK HD booms in on 309 all the way to Quakertown. 101.1 HD seemed stronger than 98.1 but not as strong as WMGK.
 
The audio quality of WOGL-HD2 is terrible. The stream sounds way better

Well WOGL has 4 HD multi-casts so gotta split up the bits somehow. the HD3 and 4 also sound bad if you ask me.

96.5 WTDY audio for HD is horrible sounding too.
I switch to forced analog any time I listen to OTA radio here in Philly.
Radio in general is very compressed and its geting even more brick wall.
I understand why but its not how I'd do it if it were me.
 
I was in Philly today and I flipped between WOGL and its HD2 signal in a rented car with HD radio.

And boy, the WOGL HD2 signal was terrible. While on the NE Extension of the PA Turnpike between Quakertown and the Lansdale exit, I STILL couldn't get their HD2 signal, the signal was cutting in-and-out. It was not until I reached the Mid-Valley toll plaza that the HD2 signal stabilizes.

On our way home, the HD2 signal was stable until roughly five to ten miles after the Lansdale exit on I-476 and then I lost them completely after the Quakertown exit.

I did a Youtube video of the WOGL HD reception taken from my smartphone's camera.

 
I was in Philly today and I flipped between WOGL and its HD2 signal in a rented car with HD radio.

And boy, the WOGL HD2 signal was terrible.

That's probably because the HD is limited to what is it 10% of the analog signal by the FCC? and other than the first two song I (who have a hearing impairment) couldn't even hear the music above the road noise.
As far as your HD2 thru 4, I bet they're all in mono in the car, and the reason the audio isn't good is they are trying to do 4 channels and split the HD bandwidth between the 4.
I believe the FCC mandates that HD1 has a certain audio quality to it as far as bandwidth.
Its strange to hear music channels in mono on HD Fm although I understand why its done stereo would sound even worse.
 
The audio quality of WOGL-HD2 is terrible. The stream sounds way better

I didn't even know they had a web stream until now and I asked the A lady to play it.
Hey guess what? Its in stereo! Unlike theHD-2 on FM. and yeah, the web stream has what to me sounds like a much better codec being used than the HD-2.
 
The web stream isn’t constrained by the total bandwidth limit of an HD station. They’re 64k HE-AAC which sounds decent. It seems like Bob Pantano is just promoting this as an Internet station, barely mentioning that it’s available on 98.1-HD2. Perhaps it’s his way of running an Internet station if he’s not allowed to do it on his own due to a non-compete.
I think Audacy should put the HD4 on 94.1-HD4, since all their HD channels are talk. Give 98.1-HD2 the extra bits to sound better.
 
I honestly am confused by the Audacy HD strategy. 96.5 makes sense. 2 music streams that make sense. I would remove KYW off WIP now they have 103.9. Move the old WYSP to Hd2 and make it sound better.

On 98.1, I would remove the Phillies stream. There is no original content. That would help the music on HD2 sound better.

When they get fill control of 103.9, they could add HD there too (Assuming they have something they want to try out, or to bring back the alternative they removed from 96.5).
 
When they get fill control of 103.9, they could add HD there too (Assuming they have something they want to try out, or to bring back the alternative they removed from 96.5).
I have no idea whether 103.9 ever had HD installed but if it didn't, I can't imagine Audacy investing in it at this point. Unless they're gonna get some very pretty pennies from someone who wants to buy airtime on a side-channel, I don't see how they'd recoup the cost.
 
It DID have HD, and doesn’t the KYW TOH mention “WPHI-HD”? That’s something I’ve never understood since the FM launch. So apparently Audacy doesn’t have full control of the signal yet? The TOH makes me feel like HD on 103.9 is an inevitability.
 
I have no idea whether 103.9 ever had HD installed but if it didn't, I can't imagine Audacy investing in it at this point. Unless they're gonna get some very pretty pennies from someone who wants to buy airtime on a side-channel, I don't see how they'd recoup the cost.
I agree it might not make them any money in the short term but that does not seem to matter all that much to Audacy. The only HD signal they have that has any revenue (above the AM/FM signal they already have) is channel Q.

I would use the signal to test possible formats and see how they sound.
 
I have already gotten WMGK HD-2 on a small, portable, handheld HD radio in Schuylkill County, all the way up near Pottsville, with the radio sitting in just the right spot. Them and WISX HD-2, as well.
 
FWIW, I've heard a new KYW TOH that now omits the "HD" from "WPHI" (which finally aligns with what they're broadcasting)
 
I just heard the 2pm TOH which occurred at about 1:57(ish). They say “WPHI-FM and HD Jenkintown…”. I wonder if they still plan to add HD or just CYA.
 
Whoa! How did you get HD? It's impossible to get any HD signals there since Philly is roughly like 50 miles away from your location. Are you living in a valley? Do you regularly use a rooftop FM antenna attached to your portable radio to get those HD signals that far? Because just by using a telescoping antenna or any other indoor type ones, it is quite impossible to capture any HD channels in such a fringe area. Best example is that one country station calling itself "Bigfoot Country" on 106.5 from Bloomsburg which is 35 miles away from my location. They have an HD2 signal which plays the same stuff heard on WOGL, but it rebroadcasts the analog signal from 92.3 and also can be heard on an FM translator. At my location, I can sometimes pick up both 106.5 HD signals, but had to plug in an external antenna and is best picked up in my patio. It cannot be picked up inside my house. With that, HD reception range is quite limited unlike analog.
 
I’m able to get the Philly stations in HD south of Atlantic City with an APS-13 antenna. NYC, Baltimore, DC, and Norfolk are in all the time too, a little tropo brings them in HD
 
Is Ed Hanlon out of business? I'd love to have an APS13 someday. I also get Atlantic City/Allentown, but Bensalem isn't exactly far away from the Philly stations enough to get NYC, especially since HD is on. but I remember before HD I was able to get 102-7, Blink. and KTU, and WPLJ as Hot AC. And before the translators came to say hello, I could get during tropo WRQX 107.3 out of Washington DC, 99.9 WWFG out of Ocean City, MD as country, 94.9 WVPE (94.9 the point! Hot AC out of Virginia Beach, VA. and by this point, WWZZ was Gospel but I could pick that up too. and oh yeah! the christian AC 102.5 , but I forget what this could have been. And when the translator was off the air before 107.9 came on, I could get WKRF. 102.7 WWAC came in well at night too... WZXL. Now I can still get WZXL, WTKU, 98.7 the coast with tropo. now the LPFM at 106.5 is here, I can no longer get country 106.5 WKMK unless its night time tropo.

Oh oh and I did actually mean to respond to this topic about HD signals...
Has anyone heard WPHT on 98.1 HD3? it sounds horrible! They could put that on 94.1 HD2. remove the Philly's from HD4 on WOGL. Because to me, usually once you get past two signals on the HD, you start getting to HD3 and 4, and its really bad sounding. 94.1 HD3 is now WYSP and even in mono it sounds bad. Yet WPRB makes their mono WOLD-LP on 103.3 HD3 not sound bad... so hmmm. alicating more bits is that what WPRB does I wonder? I think you have to by law provide a certain amount of bits to the main HD signal , isnt that right? And the reason it doesn't travel as far is that it only has 10% of the analog coverage? Can you picture how central jersey would sound if NYC/Philly was both full powered HD? Analog radios wouldn't get anything I expect.
 
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