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Varulven said:
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The worst thing about corporate radio is the political hires. When their "contact" gets fired they usually
get the pink slip right after. True talent can ride the wave of many program directors - look at
Paula Street at Oldies 103 - she's gone through how many PD's?


[EDIT*=inflamatory]

With all due respect to Paula you also have no idea how much money she is making. You cannot compare a morning show contract or an afternoon drive contract to a mid day contract, Mid day hosts (traditionally) never make anywhere near either of those two day parts. So while she's certainly solid and has indeed had great longevity in that daypart at that station, she's also doing mid days probably for a fraction of what anyone doing mornings or afternoons at any other station in town is making meaning her longevity may be more to do with economics than your theory, however she's had solid enough numbers in her particular demo as far as I know. So while she may be great, this example does not prove anything.. It is stillall about the bottom line, and really always has been....... anyone having spent any time in commercial radio with a contract, not just being paid the minimum (union or otherwise) knows this. IF you've never worked in such an enviornment you're truly just talking out of your rectum.
 
To answer your many questions, Nik:

Having been a producer at a major 50,000 watt station, as well as account rep, with a resume that goes back longer than yours, N.C., you'd like to convince people that your word is the be all and end all, but there are those of us who do have information about the biz that is exactly what Coolidge was demanding.

Paula Street is an excellent example - so Nik screams out "Mid Day", "Mid Day". Matty in the Morning has also survived many a program director, as has Dale Dorman, Ed McMann, Wharfield, David Brudnoy (oh, you're going to say, 7 PM; but who could touch Brudnoy's numbers?)

Keep in mind, radio is a hobby for me and for many on this board. You like to throw your resume' around and try to one up the critics - if you can't take the heat, why are you in the battle? Fact is, there are many great talents in Boston who survived the firing of the specific program director that got them on board.
That's the barometer I use to tell me that they have real talent OUTSIDE of what we hear them do on the radio; outside of the performance, they can roll with the punches.

Anyone who can't bounce right back (and remember, Parenteau certainly bounced back; it was his private life that ruined him), anyone who can't bounce back is one of those political hires we discussed earlier. They can't believe they have a ghost of a resume' because they actually believed their own copy.

True talent will survive. And all the name-calling and sniping on this board regarding someone's work in radio, tv, journalism, the record biz, is amazing because - wow - you add it all up and it proves something - which Oedipus proudly proclaimed at a dinner at a Japanese Restaurant one night "The hardest working man in Boston rock & roll." And he pointed to a dear old friend of his, who you, Nik, keep reminding evereyone is "old".

the older the grape, the sweeter the wine. Bobby Womack wrote that!
 
The Original Topic Was: No Blacks, No Women, No Minorities on WRKO Talk

With all the edits and compression of topics we have forgotten the original topic: Why are there no Black, Women or Minority talent currently behind the Talk Mic's at WRKO under Entercom?
Mentioned that it reminded me of the mind set of the previous and now dead Red Sox owner and his wife who were I believe from North Carolina. No Black Red Sox players until the late 1950's a decade after most major league team had intergrated.
Question? Why hasn't WRKO intergrated under its current owner Entercom?
 
Re: The Original Topic Was: No Blacks, No Women, No Minorities on WRKO Talk

Whadaya mean "We" Kimosabie?


Casablance said:
With all the edits and compression of topics we have forgotten the original topic: Why are there no Black, Women or Minority talent currently behind the Talk Mic's at WRKO under Entercom?
Mentioned that it reminded me of the mind set of the previous and now dead Red Sox owner and his wife who were I believe from North Carolina. No Black Red Sox players until the late 1950's a decade after most major league team had intergrated.
Question? Why hasn't WRKO intergrated under its current owner Entercom?
 
Varulven said:
To answer your many questions, Nik:

Having been a producer at a major 50,000 watt station, as well as account rep, with a resume that goes back longer than yours, N.C., you'd like to convince people that your word is the be all and end all, but there are those of us who do have information about the biz that is exactly what Coolidge was demanding.

Yes your resume goes back longer than mine because youre a good deal older than I am, however my resume is very long and very solid. No internships or Community access, or blog-like experience on it, itr's all national and major market on air experience over the course of the last twenty plus years dating back to when I was a teenager hosting his own show on WBZ TV 4, in Boston, commerical airwaves not public access. That said the point I made is true, you mentioned Paula Street and I said she's a mid day host so the point I made still stands. Matty? yes he survived two program directors (outside of the one who hired him), same with Dale Doorman who Survived one and was let go by his last, the same goes for Ed McMann all talented, yes but your point is not very solid. They were all hired By Sunny Joe White, and let go by Cadillac with the exception of Matty. Again with the Harvey Warfield? who evenknows where he is today? bad example but then again he's one of the few people who will talk to you so as usual in your mind he's a HUGE SUPERSTAR becuase of that.

Paula Street is an excellent example - so Nik screams out "Mid Day", "Mid Day". Matty in the Morning has also survived many a program director, as has Dale Dorman, Ed McMann, Wharfield, David Brudnoy (oh, you're going to say, 7 PM; but who could touch Brudnoy's numbers?)

Uhhhhhh I didnt scream out anything i merely pointed out the flaw in your argument...... By the way: when I was doing 7-11pm for the year that I did it whhen i first came to WBCN I actually beat Bruds a few times, so, so much for that point. Which is why Jeff Katz (who was doing late nights at RKO at the time ) took shots at me on air, we should not have shared any audience but obviously in his mind we did, men 18-34 and men 25-54 and I beat Bruds a few books there. So Please give me a break with the idea that I try to convince people that My word is the be all and end all. I believve in facts, you constantly post your OPINION and pass it off as fact when it's nothing of the kind.

Keep in mind, radio is a hobby for me and for many on this board. You like to throw your resume' around and try to one up the critics - if you can't take the heat, why are you in the battle? Fact is, there are many great talents in Boston who survived the firing of the specific program director that got them on board.
That's the barometer I use to tell me that they have real talent OUTSIDE of what we hear them do on the radio; outside of the performance, they can roll with the punches.

UHHHHHHHHH YOU're the one who brought your resume into the discussion and said it was longer than mine, in short YOU STARTED IT YOU, dont even try to pull that nonsense on me. No Joe I just respectfully disagree with some of the things you say and like Ive said in the past you're so self obsessed that you cant imagine that anyone could ever disagree with you, and when they do you take it so personally as if it is some sort of war and those who disagree with your often skewed view of reality are somehow your enemies. YOu're the one who cant take the heat, someone disagrees with you and automatically theyre a plant from some corproation, or they're using Karl Rove techniques or the Swift Boat technique.......... Face it, you're just wrong sometimes, and not even a little bit wrong but painfully off the mark wrong. Speaking of which Max Tolkoff got me on the board, Not Oedipus. I worked at fnx for seven years before BCN.. where I outlasted three program directors before I resigned and took a job doing mornings in Providence... You know nothing of my history..Do your research Joe so one day you can state the facts and not just your jealous opinions.

Anyone who can't bounce right back (and remember, Parenteau certainly bounced back; it was his private life that ruined him), anyone who can't bounce back is one of those political hires we discussed earlier. They can't believe they have a ghost of a resume' because they actually believed their own copy.

Yes and no: Parenteau was able to find a job at WAXQ almost a year after his contract was not renewed by WBCN and until then he worked part time at WRKO, PART TIME JOE, I guess it was a noble thing then huh?....(Hmmmmmmm his contract was not renewed , mine was not renewed either, yet somehow you think there is some huge difference in the way that he and I left the station,........that does not make much sense now does it?..Like always Joe your politics dictate evcerything you say, the truth has no place in your world, how sad!). He didnt last two years at WAXQ before he was fired, he then went to XM and was not there even two years (not much more than a year actually) before his attitude again got him fired, and no his personal life had nothing to do with it, he was essentially out the door when he was arrested, that just was the period on the end of the sentence.

True talent will survive. And all the name-calling and sniping on this board regarding someone's work in radio, tv, journalism, the record biz, is amazing because - wow - you add it all up and it proves something - which Oedipus proudly proclaimed at a dinner at a Japanese Restaurant one night "The hardest working man in Boston rock & roll." And he pointed to a dear old friend of his, who you, Nik, keep reminding evereyone is "old".

I dont call everyone old Joe, YOU ARE lost in a by gone era but that has more to do with your mental state than your chronlogical state. You are the biggest hypocrite on the board, you call people names, you "assault" others all the time, you've been responsible for more threads removed or locked than anyone else here,.....You need to give it a rest with your projection complex. Why do you on one hand villify Oedipus every chance you get, yet continuously re hash that quote ( if he even said it, I know from the wya in which you've twisted my words that you're not a reliable source on such things) from literally over 20 years ago? AND if Oedipus is the horrible figure that you portray him to be then what good is a positive quote froms omeone who you claim is as wantonly corrupt as you claim he is? oh let me guess: He's corrupt except when it comes to praising and feeding your overblown ego? You cant have it both ways Joey, you cant have it both ways.

the older the grape, the sweeter the wine. Bobby Womack wrote that!

Maybe, but BOBBY WOMACK.....IS OOOOOOOOOLD! VERY OLD!
::) ::)

Again Joe it's NOT ABOUT YOU, its about Boston radio and you are not a part of THAT nor were you ever. And now you've hijacked yet another thread which is destined to be locked shortly...........bravo!.
 
Varulven said:
To answer your many questions, Nik:

Having been a producer at a major 50,000 watt station, as well as account rep, with a resume that goes back longer than yours, N.C., you'd like to convince people that your word is the be all and end all, but there are those of us who do have information about the biz that is exactly what Coolidge was demanding.

Nik2.0 said:
Yes your resume goes back longer than mine because youre a good deal older than I am, however my resume is very long and very solid. No internships or Community access, or blog-like experience on it, itr's all national and major market on air experience over the course of the last twenty plus years dating back to when I was a teenager hosting his own show on WBZ TV 4, in Boston, commerical airwaves not public access. That said the point I made is true, you mentioned Paula Street and I said she's a mid day host so the point I made still stands. Matty? yes he survived two program directors (outside of the one who hired him), same with Dale Doorman who Survived one and was let go by his last, the same goes for Ed McMann all talented, yes but your point is not very solid. They were all hired By Sunny Joe White, and let go by Cadillac with the exception of Matty. Again with the Harvey Warfield? who evenknows where he is today? bad example but then again he's one of the few people who will talk to you so as usual in your mind he's a HUGE SUPERSTAR becuase of that.

Varulven said:
Paula Street is an excellent example - so Nik screams out "Mid Day", "Mid Day". Matty in the Morning has also survived many a program director, as has Dale Dorman, Ed McMann, Wharfield, David Brudnoy (oh, you're going to say, 7 PM; but who could touch Brudnoy's numbers?)

Nik2.0 said:
Uhhhhhh When I was doing 7-11pm for the year that I did it whhen i first came to WBCN I actually beat Bruds a few times, so, so much for that point. WHich is why Jeff Katz (who was doing late nights at RKO at the time ) took shots at me on air, we should not have shared any audience but obviously in his mind we did, men 18-34 and men 25-54 and I beat Bruds a few books there. So Please give me a break with the idea that I try to convince people that My word is the be all and end all. I believve in facts, you constantly post your OPINION and pass it off as fact when it's nothing of the kind.

Varulven said:
Keep in mind, radio is a hobby for me and for many on this board. You like to throw your resume' around and try to one up the critics - if you can't take the heat, why are you in the battle? Fact is, there are many great talents in Boston who survived the firing of the specific program director that got them on board.
That's the barometer I use to tell me that they have real talent OUTSIDE of what we hear them do on the radio; outside of the performance, they can roll with the punches.

Nik2.0 said:
UHHHHHHHHH YOU're the one who brought your resume into the discussion and siad it was longer than mine, YOU did that so dont even try to pull that nonsense on me. No Joe I just respectfully disagree with some of the things you say and like Ive said in the past you're so self obsessed that you cant imagine that anyone could ever disagree with you, and when they do you take it so personally as if it is some sort of war and those who disagree with your often skewed view of reality are somehow your enemies. YOu're the one who cant take the heat, someone disagrees with you and automatically theyre a plant from some corproation, or they're using Karl Rove techniques or the Swift Boat technique.......... Face it, you're just wrong sometimes, and not even a little bit wrong but painfully off the mark wrong. While were at it Max Tolkoff got me on the board, Not Oedipus. I worked at fnx for seven years before BCN.. where I outlasted three program directors before I resigned and took a job doing mornings in Providence.....Do your research Joe so one day you can state the facts and not just your jealous opinions.

Varulven said:
Anyone who can't bounce right back (and remember, Parenteau certainly bounced back; it was his private life that ruined him), anyone who can't bounce back is one of those political hires we discussed earlier. They can't believe they have a ghost of a resume' because they actually believed their own copy.

Nik2.0 said:
Yes and no: Parenteau was able to find a job at WAXQ almost a year after his contract was not renewed by WBCN and he worked part time at WRKO, PART TIME JOE, I guess it was a noble thing then huh?....(Hmmmmmmm his contract was not renewed , mine was not renewed either, yet somehow you think there is some huge difference in the way that he and I left the station,........that does not make much sense now does it?..Like I alwys sya JOe your politics dictate evcerything you say, the truth has no place in your world, how sad!). He didnt last two years at WAXQ before he was fired, he then went to XM and was not there very long before his attitude again got him fired, and no his personal life had nothing to do with it, he was essentially out the door when he was arrested, that just was the period on the end of the sentence.

Varulven said:
True talent will survive. And all the name-calling and sniping on this board regarding someone's work in radio, tv, journalism, the record biz, is amazing because - wow - you add it all up and it proves something - which Oedipus proudly proclaimed at a dinner at a Japanese Restaurant one night "The hardest working man in Boston rock & roll." And he pointed to a dear old friend of his, who you, Nik, keep reminding evereyone is "old".

Nik2.0 said:
I dont call everyone old Joe, YOU are of course lost in a by gone era but that has more to do with your mental state than your chronlogical state. YOu are the biggest hypocrite on the board, you call people names, you "assault" others all the time, you've been responsible for more threads removed or locked than anyone else here,.....You need to give it a rest with your projection complex. Why do you on one hand villify Oedipus every chance you get, yet continuously re hash that quote ( if he even said it, I know from the wya in which you've twisted my words that you're not a reliable source on such things) from literally over 20 years ago? AND if Oedipus is the horrible figure that you portray him to be then what good is a positive quote froms omeone who you claim is as wantonly corrupt as you claim he is? oh let me guess: He's corrupt except when it comes to praising and feeding your overblown ego? You cant have it both ways Joey, you cant have it both ways.

Varulven said:
the older the grape, the sweeter the wine. Bobby Womack wrote that!

Nik2.0 said:
Maybe, but BOBBY WOMACK.....IS OOOOOOOOOLD! VERY OLD!
::) ::)

Again Joe it's NOT ABOUT YOU, its about Boston radio and you are not a part of THAT nor were you ever. And now you've hijacked yet another thread which is destined to be locked shortly...........bravo!.

Nik, you owe me a drink for reformating this block of text.
 
Re: The Original Topic Was: No Blacks, No Women, No Minorities on WRKO Talk

Casablance said:
With all the edits and compression of topics we have forgotten the original topic: Why are there no Black, Women or Minority talent currently behind the Talk Mic's at WRKO under Entercom?
Demographics, Ratings (SAM/Limbaugh/Carr is doing well), etc.

When was WRKO at its most "diverse" racially, and when was WRKO at its most "diverse" politically?
 
Nik2.0 said:
Paul Marshall,

You know what? I tend to agree with Marshall on a great many issues because I think he is one of the smarter radio people out there, I truly do. However I have to agree with Jane Grant on this one, it would be nice if the best one for the job got the job and that were the only criteria but we all know that is not always the case. You really have to be someone of the advantaged group to make a statement like that and to stand by it because for someone like Paul who is a very talented guy, if he does not get a job he KNOWS it's becuase he wasnt the right one in management's eyes for that position, and for no other reason. For someone not of the advantaged class if you dont get the job it is not always that slear cut and simple. It probably is the same reasoning behind it, you were not the right candidate in management's eyes but you'll never know that.. and history has shown us that a great many other factors out of your control often go into such decisions. WE'll never live in a color blind society, never. Nor will our society ever be blind to gender or sexual orientation, never. IN the meantime it's somewhat naive for someone who will always reap the benefits of advantaged class to say " it shouldnt be about anything other than talent" YOU ARE RIGHT, It shouldn't but if you think it ISNT, you're not living in the real world. It's very simple: People tend to gravitate to those most like themselves, and that has social implications and it obviously spills over into the hiring practices too. Is it worng? not so much wrong as it is short sighted. Probably not as much malicious as just plain ignorant. Paul has told me on many occaisions " I come from nothing" which is admireable to see that he's made a success of himself but it's also not accurate. In this buisness in particular which is a microcosym of society Paul still has a certain currency that is priceless in America, he cuts his hair and he's welcome in any board room there is if he so desires entry. THAT goes a long way and it is something that is taken for granted if you have it.........understandable, its all you know, so you dont see it as an advantage but it is a built in one which has benefits which are not always visable to the naked eye at first glance. DOnt get me wrong I look at Paul as a great talent who deserves everything he's gotten and a lot more, (GOD A LOT MORE!) but the point still remains. It's easy to say may the best man win when youre always in a position to be the best man eveen if you're not.........capice?.

First of all, I appreciate the kind words. And you know I have nothing but respect for you, and all that you've achieved as well. Enough about the mutual admirations. Nik doesn't need my words to validate him. He knows I want to bear his first born troglodyte.

What he states is truth. And my original statement is one of those "wishful thinking" scenarios. I am fully aware that there are race/gender/lifestyle barriers that have always, and will always exist in our little fantasyland. And make no mistake, we do not exist in the real world. There are decisions, and behaviors that exist in radioville that would never pass muster in other segments of society.

The unfortunate fact is that no solution will truly fix the problem other than "best person for the job". ANY quota-based policies only further divide us. I know I can never "know" what it's like to not get the gig based on race, or gender. Except in the instance where PDs have actually said "We need to get a woman in here", or "I'm looking for a female".

Yes...that's actually said and in most instances tolerated in "our" world. What am I going to do? Sue? It's short-sighted to pull that card in my case. I know there are those whom would absolutely make a case out of it...but those are the people that haven't seen the forest through the trees. Because we live in an unequal world, how quickly do you think the blackball tag is applied to anyone who makes waves?

It's a lose-lose situation. If you turn a blind eye to it, you're not helping. If you enforce quotas, you're further dividing. If you try to keep it talent/qualification based, you never know what subjective prejudice you'll encounter.

And if you even try to discuss it...People will try to squelch it.

Amazing how little communication there is in the broadcast industry ain't it?

[MOD NOTE: I fixed the quote tags so that Paul's post did not look like it was a quote.]
 
Casablance, you are so right - the original concept of this thread was immediately hijacked when they made you the target instead of addressing the real issue. Then the usual suspects come out and write lengthy essays about me because I happen to agree with you 100%. What about WRKO and its inability to hire qualified people with a range of backgrounds and good things to communicate?

It is less about quotas than about putting quality broadcasting together. Nik Carter claims he beat David
Brudnoy - but did Nik Carter have his show interrupted by The Boston Bruins? night after night after night?
We have all seen Nik skew the numbers his way like he's an advertising executive but the point is, Bruds was
quality radio, like him or not (and sometimes his "liberterian" leanings could drive listeners bonkers), but
David was the best man for the job.

RKO has a bigger signal and "live and local" hosts. AM 1430 uses the satellite and has a poor signal - it is kind of like Darth Vader beating up on tinkerbell...if WRKO didn't beat AM 1430 it would be like WBCN losing to WPLM...wait a minute, didn't that almost happen?

Note how the thread was hijacked with the second post and more, yet somehow Nik Carter wants to blame me. Typical. The sad thing about this all is that Entercom is acting like The Architect from "The Matrix" -

"There are levels of survival we are prepared to accept. However the relevant issue is whether or not you are ready to accept the responsibility ..."

They don't care if the once vast sea of radio listeners is evaporating. They become a bigger fish in a smaller pond. It still generates a profit, and with the Red Sox coming on board, well, they've got their version of
WBCN's New England Patriots. It will enable them to continue to put dreck on the public airwaves without regard to minority talents. Indeed, Howie Carr will still be denigrating minority talents and find an audience that agrees with him.
 
It is less about quotas than about putting quality broadcasting together. Nik Carter claims he beat David
Brudnoy - but did Nik Carter have his show interrupted by The Boston Bruins? night after night after night?
We have all seen Nik skew the numbers his way like he's an advertising executive but the point is, Bruds was
quality radio, like him or not (and sometimes his "liberterian" leanings could drive listeners bonkers), but
David was the best man for the job.

ROFL!
:D
You are unreal in your inability to just admit that you're wrong!. I dont skew numbers Joe they are what they are and numbers are pretty finite in what they represent. I specifcailly SAID men 18-34, and men 25-54, nothing unclear about it. Now Bruds got beaten becuase he was pre empted by the Bruins? what?..... every night he was on?...LOL.........Joe you're proven wrong and you spin like a top!, SPIN SPIN SPIN talk about skewing things. You are just so predicatble and unable to just admit when you're wrong. THAT in and of itself is symptomatic of illnesses that are diagramed in many a psych journal. Just give it a rest man you're just floundering in a sea of mis information, and please spare us the Karl ROve, swift Boat analogies, they're not only inaccuracte but they've been used to the point of exaustion!.

So let's get back to the topic at hand without making it about Joe Viglione and his many jabs at those he doesnt like, I guess it doesnt matter that he doesnt even KNOW most of them but whatever............ AGAin RKO hires those that they think reflect their audience and sad but true their audience are white, blue collar, suburban, males witha right leaning bbent. Angry white suburban males, those with the least reason to be "angry" but still are for whatever reason, so the staff they assembled reflect and in most cases stoke that mentality......So there you have it, sad but true.

[MOD NOTE: I added the quote tags...I did not edit the post.]
 
Nik, for someone who has stated he dislikes Republicans you sure utilize "rules" from the Rove playbook.

I stand by what I wrote - Bruds had to deal with the Bruins; you are the one, Nik, spreading misinformation about The Rolling Stones - only one of the most high profile bands in the world.

When jocks don't have the knowledge it proves it is all about THEM. When you throw your shortcomings at me,
the shrinks call it "transference". You just don't get it. A LOT of your colleagues have really been stunned by
your ramblings on these boards - and you have hijacked this thread (and, of course, blamed me for it).
It's about WRKO and its failure to bring quality minority talent onboard. We're all ready for your next 1500 word response - boy my posts get you agitated. That is not the intent.
 
Nik2.0 said:
"SHUT YOUR FESTERING GOB, YOU TEET"!!!!!!!!

"Your type really makes me puke you vacuous, coffee-nosed, malodorous, pervert!"

"...look, I came here for an argument"

<note to mods: it's not an attack please don't edit it out...it's a continuation of one of the most famous comedy sketches in history, and quite frankly, we could use a bit of levity in here once in a while>
 
Joe Viglione listens to WRKO everyday. He need look no further than his own radio to validate their format.
 
Let's Stick To The Original Topic, Please !

Excuse me, but what has all this petty bickering have to do with the original topic [ before editing] regarding minorities and women in local talk radio - specifically WRKO but it could to some degree [ Margery Egan excluded] include WTKK.

Let's stick to the topic ladies and gentlemen :)
 
Re: The Original Topic Was: No Blacks, No Women, No Minorities on WRKO Talk

OK Paul, answer these questions then:
Smoke said:
When was WRKO at its most "diverse" racially, and when was WRKO at its most "diverse" politically?
 
Ok, in that case, getting back to the topic of a radio station (in this case WRKO) and the hiring of minorities and/or women as on-air personalities.

What is your proposed solution?
 
Re: The Original Topic Was: No Blacks, No Women, No Minorities on WRKO Talk

Smoke said:
OK Paul, answer these questions then:
Smoke said:
When was WRKO at its most "diverse" racially, and when was WRKO at its most "diverse" politically?

When Dale Dorman spun rock songs and I won tickets to Beatlemania at the Colonial theater.

Racial diversity has no bearing on the success of a station. Listo Fisher has been with WRKO for as long as, or longer than most of the staff there. He's an excellent newsman. And it has nothing to do with his skin pigment.

"Do you know when this country will stop using race as a litmus test?...When the country stops using race as a litmus test!"
Stated by whomever the on-air host was in 1991 when I was a bored-op at WHDH. I never forgot it.
 
Re: The Original Topic Was: No Blacks, No Women, No Minorities on WRKO Talk

Neanderpaul said:
Smoke said:
OK Paul, answer these questions then:
Smoke said:
When was WRKO at its most "diverse" racially, and when was WRKO at its most "diverse" politically?
e
When Dale Dorman spun rock songs and I won tickets to Beatlemania at the Colonial theatr.

Racial diversity has no bearing on the success of a station. Listo Fisher has been with WRKO for as long as, or longer than most of the staff there. He's an excellent newsman. And it has nothing to do with his skin pigment.

"Do you know when this country will stop using race as a litmus test?...When the country stops using race as a litmus test!"
Stated by whomever the on-air host was in 1991 when I was a bored-op at WHDH. I never forgot it.

i love that last quote there. very good.

i still want someone to explain to me how having more minorities, regardless of how good they are at radio, automatically makes a station more legitimate.

anyone?

maybe its that if a minority came along that they liked, they'd hire em? maybe they found better people? GASP! maybe someone was MORE QUALIFIED THAT WAS WHITE!!! OH NO!!!
 
takanotees said:
i still want someone to explain to me how having more minorities, regardless of how good they are at radio, automatically makes a station more legitimate.

anyone?

It's very simple notes: Having a staff that in some regard reflects the actual metro, or the audience what have you would make it more legitimate. IF Massachusetts were a white male state then you would have a point but since there is some bit of a diverse culture there it would be nice and it would make any "talk" station which is supposed to be a reflection of the community more "legitimate" if their staff offered a point of view other than just that of the majority.
takanotees said:
maybe its that if a minority came along that they liked, they'd hire em? maybe they found better people? GASP! maybe someone was MORE QUALIFIED THAT WAS WHITE!!! OH NO!!!
NOw you just sound like a jerk, let's be honest for a change there is always someone more qualified than someone else, always someone more qualified than you are or I am. The problem is that most of the time you would never know if a minority is more qualified because they dont often get the same shot as the qualified white talent, in any arena,.....OR god forbid they get hired then you have someone like yourself immediately thinking "Oh this was an eoe hire" I know because it's happened to me often enough (that assumption has been made and it's of course false) and I know from your demeanor in your post. Listen there are more qualified white folks out there than other white folks who get the jobs, there are more qualified white folks out there than the minorities that sometimes get the job too. There are also more qualified minorities out there that rarely even get the shot at the job because they're just not thought of in the hiring process, it's fact, period. I have also said that RKO's responsibility is to Entercom corproate and Entercom stock holders not to society at large to make it a better place but to say how does hiring a minority make it more legit? is silly. Your question pre supposes that a LESS QUALIFIED minority would be hired and in that case yes it's wrong, no doubt. But the problem is that often even if a minority is hired who is over qualified the asswumption is that they were a "less qualified, eoe hire"

By the way to set the record straight I never said that i dislike republicans at all, I did say that I am a life long democrat, but at no time did I state that i dislike republicans, but some just live to smear the truth.

[Mod Note: fixing those quote tags....]
 
RKO could absolutely do a better job of putting some women on the air.
They throw crumbs - "Two Chicks Dishing" one example - not a great show,
and didn't those gals have to purchase the airtime initially? Now that's degrading, if true!

Does Depetro buy airtime from them? Pat Whitley for his restaurant shows?

Sidenote:
Mr. Carter, it would be helpful if you could keep your rhetoric down. You appear
to have an agenda.
 
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