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ESPN 1070 To FM

Will be interesting to see where this one ends up being located and what they paid for it individually.
 
Emmis must be going after the money side of town. I cannot pick up 107.5
downtown or on the west side of Indy.
This will be interesting.
 
This translator is currently operating about 35' feet above the ground...odds are good that it will get transplanted to a more useful area from a higher perch...such as downtown?
 
BobOnTheJob said:
This translator is currently operating about 35' feet above the ground...odds are good that it will get transplanted to a more useful area from a higher perch...such as downtown?
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Could the vacant 107.5 in Terre Haute play into
Emmis' hands as far as relocation and/or
power increase?
 
Supposition on my part, some of those translators may go to the Brazil, Indiana Emmis stations. The 1130 Khz. frequency is difficult at night and some listeners may have trouble with 92.7 Mhz. The 107.5 Mhz. frequency has been designated as non-commercial in Terre Haute although the CP owners are having problems getting along. There is 1230 Khz. which Bott has a CP for and the 640 Khz. frequency which Birach Broadcasting wants to move to Peotone, Illinois. If Birach gets turned down on the move to Peotone, Illinois, then this frequency may suddenly become available.

It is amazing how radio companies look down on AM frequencies even though they can sound terrific with HD. More and more auto companies are putting HD in new cars from what I understand so these AM frequencies could be a bargain now.
 
Rosebud3 said:
It is amazing how radio companies look down on AM frequencies even though they can sound terrific with HD. More and more auto companies are putting HD in new cars from what I understand so these AM frequencies could be a bargain now.
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HD AM just doesn't work and bastardizes the band. I have an HD radio, it has locked into skywave once and for a few seconds. Fifty-five miles from WHAS' tower site I couldn't lock an HD signal despite full signal strength. Also, HD radio receivers today hardly exist and don't exist abundantly in new cars.

As far as the frequencies and bargains that could yield a last life for the band. When the fire sale happens you will find AM facilities at bargain prices. Then it will be in the price range for those who might be able to get the band some attention again.
 
I haven't had any problems with HD radio on my Toyota Prius and regularly get the Emmis station WFNI with no problems 60 miles away. WBAA in West Lafayette, a much lower power station, comes in most of the time at 50 miles away. I did have trouble myself in the Louisville area with HD this summer so it may be the terrain.

Someone wrote that Ford is putting HD radios in all of their newer cars and I know Toyota is, also. I cannot fault the signals that I receive. Many broadcast engineers hate HD because of the interference but WBBM in Chicago causes no interference on 800 Khz. from what I have heard from a DX'er living in Chicago picking up a station in downstate Casey, Illinois.

From my prospective, HD radio really makes a big difference in the signal listen-ability. As with everything there are technical problems to overcome and we could debate the merits of this technology for awhile. However, one thing is certain. The AM band is dying a slow death without something to stimulate it and I believe HD radio is the solution technical problems or not.
 
Rosebud3 said:
Supposition on my part, some of those translators may go to the Brazil, Indiana Emmis stations.
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Anyone have a list of the translators? It's hard to move these things more than 15-20 miles from where they are.
 
WFNI's night time highly directional signal is 10kw pointed to the southeast toward Cincinnati. Therefore, virtually no transmitted power goes to the north and west at night. That’s why WIBC went to FM, to provide more even metro coverage 24/7. Any translator should be located to the northwest of Indy to cover the night time deficits. International treaties get in the way, the WFNI night signal is protecting Canada on AM 1070.
 
WFNI's night time highly directional signal is 10kw pointed at Cincinnati. Therefore, virtually no transmitted power goes to the north and west at night. That’s why WIBC went to FM, to provide more even metro coverage. Any translator should be located to the northwest of Indy to cover the night time deficits. As noted in the earlier posted article, “The 54 dBu contour will cover all of Indianapolis, with the signal strongest in the northwestern portions of the city.” Once again, an international treaty gets in the way, the WFNI night signal is protecting Canada on AM 1070.
 
busterluck said:
Emmis is paying Vern Kasper $375,000 for the 107.5 translator. How old is Kasper these days?
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Then assuming they only got 2 translators (Indy and St Louis), they got a fair deal for St Louis and paid a record price for Indy--which makes little sense. Are you POSITIVE that $375K number is correct?
 
JDTVB said:
BobOnTheJob said:
busterluck said:
Emmis is paying Vern Kasper $375,000 for the 107.5 translator. How old is Kasper these days?
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Then assuming they only got 2 translators (Indy and St Louis), they got a fair deal for St Louis and paid a record price for Indy--which makes little sense. Are you POSITIVE that $375K number is correct?
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It's really $375K. See Page 2 of the APA: https://licensing.fcc.gov/cdbs/CDBS...?appn=101525517&qnum=5030&copynum=1&exhcnum=1
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Wow...wonder what the official price is on the St Louis translator? Guess that speaks volumes about how low the supply of Indianapolis licensable translators is.
 
Translators for AM stations in population centers are getting good prices these days. Consider that Emmis paid only $335,000 for the Class A FM and the 500 watt 1130 AM in Brazil, Indiana. $375,000 is reasonable for the translator move-in considering the population served. Even cash strapped Emmis realizes that value. I assume Emmis is also paying for rthe equipment and upgrade of the translator. Vern Kasper can laugh all the way to the bank.
 
busterluck said:
Vern Kasper can laugh all the way to the bank.
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No kidding...all for something that cost him next to nothing to get in the first place. Is this a great country or what?
 
Rosebud3 said:
I haven't had any problems with HD radio on my Toyota Prius and regularly get the Emmis station WFNI with no problems 60 miles away. WBAA in West Lafayette, a much lower power station, comes in most of the time at 50 miles away. I did have trouble myself in the Louisville area with HD this summer so it may be the terrain.
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Why doesn't the industry give up on HD AM and go back to the AM stereo format? I regularly listen to WLS at night in stereo at over 300 miles. I don't see HD ever having that type of success.
 
AM stereo didn't work overly well, and few radios were equipped with it when it was, relatively speaking, widely used. I agree with you, however, that HD AM isn't likely to be very successful. AM was always an afterthought with HD Radio because iBiquity and broadcasters didn't think HD would be approved if it didn't also include AM. The real problem is that AM just isn't viable as the younger crowd never bothers with it, and the higher power AM's need every watt they have to cover expanding metro areas and to overcome increasing interference from household and handheld devices as well as auto equipment and accessories.
 
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