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ESPN out at KNR
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Well im sure with CC owning Fox Sports Radio KNR wont get them just in case CC wants to start a Sports Station of its own somewhere in the cleveland Market. Because remember all the Hoobarb over the WWVA move from Wheeling to Cleveland so 1170 would be the Sister all sports station to talker WTAM
Looks like KNR will probly end up with Sporting news Radio
Looks like KNR will probly end up with Sporting news Radio
WABQ sold. See link. Could ESPN be headed there?
http://www.radioandrecords.com/NewsRoom/2006_07_13/Transactions.asp
The new station owner is the son of Sirius CEO Mel Karmazin.
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http://www.radioandrecords.com/NewsRoom/2006_07_13/Transactions.asp
The new station owner is the son of Sirius CEO Mel Karmazin.
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Johnny Morgan
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Re: WABQ being the new ESPN outlet
ESPN is looking for a 24/7 clearance in Cleveland. WABQ is a daytimer.
Now, it's been floated that ESPN could move to the 1260 signal, which is a fulltime operation (and co-owned). And Radio Disney could move to 1540.
Two problems with the second-half of that scenario:
a. Why would Karmazin pay $2.5 million to run Disney?
b. The outrage from the community if WABQ changes from its historic black-targetted programs would be tremendous, and that's something I'm quite sympathetic to.
This doesn't make any sense, especially when you consider Dale Edwards lost $500,000 on this sale (he bought WABQ in 2002 for $3 million).
ESPN is looking for a 24/7 clearance in Cleveland. WABQ is a daytimer.
Now, it's been floated that ESPN could move to the 1260 signal, which is a fulltime operation (and co-owned). And Radio Disney could move to 1540.
Two problems with the second-half of that scenario:
a. Why would Karmazin pay $2.5 million to run Disney?
b. The outrage from the community if WABQ changes from its historic black-targetted programs would be tremendous, and that's something I'm quite sympathetic to.
This doesn't make any sense, especially when you consider Dale Edwards lost $500,000 on this sale (he bought WABQ in 2002 for $3 million).
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furryradio
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Wonder if 1260 will indeed wind up going ESPN. In Boston, we also have a Radio Disney at 1260 (WMKI)
and I wonder if they may go ESPN as well (feeling sports would make more money than children's/teen).
In Boston a company called J Sports runs ESPN on 890 Dedham MA and 1400 Lowell, MA..and 1260 would
prob. be a better signal. That being said, I could see WWMK 1260 going ESPN...
and I wonder if they may go ESPN as well (feeling sports would make more money than children's/teen).
In Boston a company called J Sports runs ESPN on 890 Dedham MA and 1400 Lowell, MA..and 1260 would
prob. be a better signal. That being said, I could see WWMK 1260 going ESPN...
Re: ESPN IN CLEVELAND
Craig Karmasin is a great operator, and does a very professional job with the ESPN Radio franchise. He already competes with some of the same players in Milwaukee-Waukesha that own sticks in Cleveland, too. Watch for ESPN to be 'branded' at the WABQ frequency....even if daytime, (for now...)
Craig Karmasin is a great operator, and does a very professional job with the ESPN Radio franchise. He already competes with some of the same players in Milwaukee-Waukesha that own sticks in Cleveland, too. Watch for ESPN to be 'branded' at the WABQ frequency....even if daytime, (for now...)
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furryradio
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ESPN on a daytimer (1 KW)? Weird! Don't expect any baseball playoff games (post-sunset) on a 1540 ESPN, I guess (unless maybe they have permission to go on at night with 5 w or something!)
http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com weighs in on this...
"OBSERVATION 3: Does this set the stage for Karmazin to upgrade WABQ, hanging in there for a year or two with it as a 1000 watt daytimer mostly running ESPN network programming, then flipping it with ABC/Disney for the company's full-time Radio Disney signal on 1260? In this scenario, ESPN would on 1260 24/7. Radio Disney lands on a bigger 1540, with critical hours power but no nighttime signal.."
http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com weighs in on this...
"OBSERVATION 3: Does this set the stage for Karmazin to upgrade WABQ, hanging in there for a year or two with it as a 1000 watt daytimer mostly running ESPN network programming, then flipping it with ABC/Disney for the company's full-time Radio Disney signal on 1260? In this scenario, ESPN would on 1260 24/7. Radio Disney lands on a bigger 1540, with critical hours power but no nighttime signal.."
Thanks for the quote, furry.
Remember, all of that is just my own speculation. Er...the speculation of the vast Ohio Media Watch staff, who have the weekend off on a retreat...
It comes down to what I've said elsewhere...I find it hard to see Craig Karmazin, at the end of the day, running a 1000 watt daytime "ESPN Cleveland" with basically the worst signal in the entire market - at least in the long term. (WELW/1330 could make a case for that designation, but they're a true rimshot out of Willoughby.)
I've been taking expert opinion on the upgrade scenarios for him, and it doesn't look like he could get anything similar to the 25,000 watts daytime he's getting out of 1510/Waukesha WI, his Milwaukee market ESPN outlet. And even then, he'd still have to broker nights to repeat his situation there - would WERE/1300 sell nights to him in a block, as the poster above me suggests as well?
Anyway, it's because of stuff like this that I threw out the list of "observations".
Just some thoughts.
Remember, all of that is just my own speculation. Er...the speculation of the vast Ohio Media Watch staff, who have the weekend off on a retreat...
It comes down to what I've said elsewhere...I find it hard to see Craig Karmazin, at the end of the day, running a 1000 watt daytime "ESPN Cleveland" with basically the worst signal in the entire market - at least in the long term. (WELW/1330 could make a case for that designation, but they're a true rimshot out of Willoughby.)
I've been taking expert opinion on the upgrade scenarios for him, and it doesn't look like he could get anything similar to the 25,000 watts daytime he's getting out of 1510/Waukesha WI, his Milwaukee market ESPN outlet. And even then, he'd still have to broker nights to repeat his situation there - would WERE/1300 sell nights to him in a block, as the poster above me suggests as well?
Anyway, it's because of stuff like this that I threw out the list of "observations".
Just some thoughts.
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PowerCow106
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Gee, let's see, you take Mike & Mike and cut off the final hour for the senial ramblings of Greg Brinda (and don't take that to mean I'm a Drenner fan, that schmuck should have been blackballed about 15 years ago), you pre-empt the flagship show, The Dan Patrick Show, for the decaying in the ratings Jim Rome Show, you have dull golf and high school sports oriented shows on at night instead of airing Sports Night, yeah, I'm completely shocked that ESPN pulled the plug on 'KNR.
WKNR is a prime example of a station that needs "less local, more syndicated" programming. The ideal line-up should have been:
6-10 Greg Brinda
10-1 The Herd with Colin Cowherd
1-4 The Dan Patrick Show
4-7 Kenny Roda (though with a completely new format: callers can no longer ramble on but instead must give a quick take and then Kenny will move onto the next caller, and Roda must stop doing his schtick of giving dumb nicknames to local sports figures (Slim Wickman, Botch Davis, Charlie French Frye, etc.) because we all know the key to beating Triv in the ratings is to make fun of people's names)
7-1AM Gamenight
1-6AM The V Show with Bob Valvano
WKNR is a prime example of a station that needs "less local, more syndicated" programming. The ideal line-up should have been:
6-10 Greg Brinda
10-1 The Herd with Colin Cowherd
1-4 The Dan Patrick Show
4-7 Kenny Roda (though with a completely new format: callers can no longer ramble on but instead must give a quick take and then Kenny will move onto the next caller, and Roda must stop doing his schtick of giving dumb nicknames to local sports figures (Slim Wickman, Botch Davis, Charlie French Frye, etc.) because we all know the key to beating Triv in the ratings is to make fun of people's names)
7-1AM Gamenight
1-6AM The V Show with Bob Valvano
from Roger Brown's media column in the Plain Dealer (thanks to Ohio Media Watch for mentioning):
"KNR, part 2: The sports station was surprised when ESPN Radio recently decided to terminate their contract, effective in October. But, in reality, WKNR had long tested ESPN Radio's patience with moves like:
Declining to air most of ESPN Radio's playoff baseball broadcasts - even going so far as running "infomercials" instead of postseason games. Deciding to air Lake County Captains minor-league games over ESPN's nightly programming. Ignoring ESPN's live overnight programs to air taped shows of Jim Rome, whose syndicated program airs afternoons on WKNR.
"ESPN Radio is soon expected to name WABQ AM/1540 as its new Cleveland affiliate. "
"KNR, part 2: The sports station was surprised when ESPN Radio recently decided to terminate their contract, effective in October. But, in reality, WKNR had long tested ESPN Radio's patience with moves like:
Declining to air most of ESPN Radio's playoff baseball broadcasts - even going so far as running "infomercials" instead of postseason games. Deciding to air Lake County Captains minor-league games over ESPN's nightly programming. Ignoring ESPN's live overnight programs to air taped shows of Jim Rome, whose syndicated program airs afternoons on WKNR.
"ESPN Radio is soon expected to name WABQ AM/1540 as its new Cleveland affiliate. "
That last line he got from us, and from the Beacon Journal's David Lee Morgan.
The funny thing is...though he's never mentioned OMW, we KNOW Roger reads it. He's on another, local radio board under a handle, and just about everyone in the market knows that it's Roger under that name...
The funny thing is...though he's never mentioned OMW, we KNOW Roger reads it. He's on another, local radio board under a handle, and just about everyone in the market knows that it's Roger under that name...
Seeing that salem may be in sell mode
How about selling to CC(in this case the lesser of two evils), and making WKNR "850 Homer"
How about selling to CC(in this case the lesser of two evils), and making WKNR "850 Homer"
Re: Seeing that salem may be in sell mode
You've got the same issues that forced CC to drop the WWVA/1170 move-in. Under the current FCC rules, there's no room for 850 in the CC Cleveland cluster.
74WIXYGrad said:
You've got the same issues that forced CC to drop the WWVA/1170 move-in. Under the current FCC rules, there's no room for 850 in the CC Cleveland cluster.
Always seemed interesting to me, seeing that Cleveland has 25 full power commercial AM/FMs and Toledo, where Cumulus owns 8 stations, has 22. Seeing CC's recent reminder to us of their shell games with "Mercury Broadcasting" allowing them to circumvent FCC rules and own additional stations, I don't see why, especially seeing that WAKS isn't really a Cleveland station, they couldn't own more.
With Salem's underperforming sports talker and an FM ripe for a format with a higher power ratio on the block, it sure would be nice for CC to have two extra slots.
With Salem's underperforming sports talker and an FM ripe for a format with a higher power ratio on the block, it sure would be nice for CC to have two extra slots.
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