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ESPN: Too Big For Its Own Good?

I am probably close to an average American "sports fan" although I am selective about the sports I watch. I have never watched SportsCenter or any talk show revolving around sports because most of the talk is fluff or clashing egos.

I used to be a fan of ESPN but lost them when I dumped cable. The only thing I missed, somewhat, are the football bowl games but now with virtually all of them on ESPN I simply quit watching. The matchups, for the most part, are not compelling and the Foxish pre and post-game BS is annoying.

While ESPN is not the prime reason I dumped cable it is one good reason not to go back. I can easily afford cable and ESPN. I just choose not to.
 
landtuna said:
I am probably close to an average American "sports fan" although I am selective about the sports I watch. I have never watched SportsCenter or any talk show revolving around sports because most of the talk is fluff or clashing egos.

I used to be a fan of ESPN but lost them when I dumped cable. The only thing I missed, somewhat, are the football bowl games but now with virtually all of them on ESPN I simply quit watching. The matchups, for the most part, are not compelling and the Foxish pre and post-game BS is annoying.

Same here. I miss college hoops and the bowl games, but most of the games I'm interested in are available via online radio for free (student-run stations in many cases). The rest I can watch in a bar. Baseball is not an issue for me since I pay for MLB.TV (all games other than the Diamondbacks and the Sunday night Yankees and/or Red Sox ESPN games). I can listen to the D'backs, Suns, and ASU locally on radio (KTAR radio has far better broadcasters than the FSN buffoons anyway).

While ESPN is not the prime reason I dumped cable it is one good reason not to go back. I can easily afford cable and ESPN. I just choose not to.

Same here. I would like to be able to subscribe to ESPN, Fox Sports Net, and Big Ten Network online, along with a very-few others, but I'm not losing sleep if I can't. My internet provider doesn't have a deal for ESPN3, so that's out. But I just can't justify spending $85 a month for satellite TV's 200 channels, 190 of which I never watch (No cable in my apartment complex - it's an internet provider that contracts with Dish Network).
 
I suspect that may change though now that NBC and CBS have entered the cable sports net biz in a serious way.

This is the time of year I start to tune out ESPN because I am not much of a basketball fan.
From now till Baseball Opening Day, Sportscenter is going to be overrun with basketball basketball basketball
basketball, with only the occasional break for one of those drippy, too-long human interest stories.

Nothing against basketball but I'm more of a hockey guy, and something really weird and/or historic
has to happen in order for ESPN to drag Barry Melrose out of the green room for 40 seconds or so.
 
FreddyE1977 said:
Nothing against basketball but I'm more of a hockey guy, and something really weird and/or historic
has to happen in order for ESPN to drag Barry Melrose out of the green room for 40 seconds or so.

I'm with you. If there is anything I detest more than basketball it is basketball announcers.

I keep up with hockey through HNIC's Internet site. Gotta have my Don Cherry/Ron MacLean fix.
 
landtuna said:
I'm with you. If there is anything I detest more than basketball it is basketball announcers.

Dukie V. is awesome, bay-bee! ;D
 
ESPN becoming very big is as much a consequence of the networks being very behind when it came to cable sports as anything else. Only Fox had been able to start up regional cable sports networks, followed by the likes of Comcast, DirecTV and MSG. They "tried" to build a "national" sports network but that didn't obviously go anywhere.

It's only been months since CBS has its own cable sports network and now NBC has one, too. However, I wonder if they're too late to the game (pun slightly intended). Sports rights fees are in the stratosphere and the best that they can do right now is airing minor sports like hockey, soccer, lacrosse, individual competitions plus Olympics qualifying. Perhaps they can try to make those sports grow in time with the right marketing, patience and actual $$$ invested in production and video quality.

Of course, people complaining about ESPN usually come down to cost and being forced to pay for stuff they don't want. However, another case could be made that people who prefer sports other than the "Big 3" (five, if you separate college BB and college FB) feel disrespected and think are relegated to their own sports ghettos.
 
stationless listener said:
ESPN becoming very big is as much a consequence of the networks being very behind when it came to cable sports as anything else. Only Fox had been able to start up regional cable sports networks, followed by the likes of Comcast, DirecTV and MSG. They "tried" to build a "national" sports network but that didn't obviously go anywhere.

Fox Sports Net's predecessors, Sports Channel and Prime Sports, each also had a national version that seemed to have gone nowhere.
 
stationless listener said:
...the best that they can do right now is airing minor sports like hockey, ...

Hockey is anything but a "minor" sport. Canada will be down to see you presently.
 
landtuna said:
stationless listener said:
...the best that they can do right now is airing minor sports like hockey, ...

Hockey is anything but a "minor" sport. Canada will be down to see you presently.

Well, if we were in Canada I probably wouldn't have worded it that way. They even took a team back from the lower 48. That's what I call dedication. ;D
 
Dick Vitale is pretty much in Duke University's front pocket, he's enamored with every aspect of the school and the program, so some people call him Dukie V. Plus, it's easy. ;)
 
You hear about the CBS Sports network but if you have Time Warner as your cable provider (and this may be true of other cable companies) you have probably never seen it. It's not on the standard service menu, haven't even found it on posted lists of enhanced digital tier choices. Who's carrying it, and where is it seen? If you live in a place where the landlord won't let you put a dish outside your window, your choice is limited to either what the cable company chooses to offer you, or the half-dozen or so full-power OTA channels most markets have to choose from.

For people in a lot of the country, the ESPN networks and the new NBC Sports channel are about it, especially if your cable company is having a hissy-fit with MSG (owned in common with another competing cable provider) and dropping them out of their lineup. :(
 
quadraphonic said:
Dick Vitale is pretty much in Duke University's front pocket, he's enamored with every aspect of the school and the program, so some people call him Dukie V. Plus, it's easy. ;)

I think it's his man-love for Coach K that brought him his nickname. He's really an apologist for the entire ACC, at least in basketball.
 
Would anyone pay $14 a month for just ESPN in a la carte system? ESPN makes a lot buy getting $7 a month from millions who never watch sports. Even if you hate Fox news, you're still giving them around $2 if you even subscribe to a pay TV service.
 
The Daily Beast piece lists the next most expensive network after ESPN as TNT at $1.16 per. So Fox might actually be less than that.
 
DToTheJ said:
The Daily Beast piece lists the next most expensive network after ESPN as TNT at $1.16 per. So Fox might actually be less than that.

But even if you hate Fox News and Rupert Murdoch, you're still paying for them if you have cable
 
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