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There was quite the interesting thread developing regarding WLKK. Apparently the board crashed sometime last night and that thread was lost or expurgated due to content, which didn't seem offensive in the least.

To paraphrase some of the posts: Entercom was taken to task for poor decison making regarding the Lake. Another post mentioned Entercom's disdain for country as one of the reasons the format won't be attempted. Yet another poster cited WNUC's poor performance with country under John Casciani's ownership.

Interesting takes.

My view? Entercom is far from being a stupid company. The local and corporate management team may be headstrong and arrogant, but certainly not stupid. Considering the investment Entercom is making in promoting the Lake via television and direct mail, management believes in the format and its potential.

Or is this a last-gasp attempt?

According to those who have access to the ratings, the Lake has lost nearly 50% of its cume since signing on nearly two years ago. It has not replenished the lost listeners and the time spent listening (TSL) has dropped considerably. Since the format is designed for TSL, the station faces a serious challenge. As the axiom goes, for every cume listener lost, two are needed to sustain a format's long term success. This applies to every format, from news-talk to AC.

107.7 has always been signal-impaired. Yet first book performances by The Bear and The Lake indicate the signal does in fact reach listeners who are curious and interested enough to "buy the product." It appears many of those who sampled the Lake when it debuted tired of it and went back to their normal listening habits. This is the real crux of the Lake's problems.

There seems to have occured a tightening of the music and a style change among the Lake Guides' backsells and intros. Unchanged, however, is the bumper-sweeper production: Still the same atonal voice chanting unchanged, creatively lacking positioners that have become more of a caricature than a branding statement.

Two out of three ain't bad, but if management is going to tighten up (Archie Bell and the Drells, '68) the music and jocks, the positioning statements and production of the station need to be brought up to speed as well.

You go on ahead, I think I'll stay here and read the rest of the board.
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By the way. A poster in the vanished thread made mention of lake Erie being polluted. This is not the case. EPA analysis has shown lake Erie to be one of the cleanest fresh water sources in North America. For sure, there have been problems with waste-treatment run off in certain communities south of Buffalo lacking properly contained waste treatment facilities and ecoli alerts have been issued periodically over the last few summers. But on the whole, lake Erie is not the body of water it was in the 60's when Bethlehem Steel was belching cinders and ash and emptying its corporate colon into it.
 
It was interesting

If we are thinking of the same thread, I had brought up something as well.
Was this the thread that started out with moving KB to the FM side, presuming dropping the "kids off" at "The Lake"

I then suggested, all things equal, if you could make similar changes in other radio groups in buffalo, what would they be? Many have suggested swapping 92.9 with one of the other stations in the group

Signal-impaired? Yes

Purpose-impaired? Sure. This "Free your Radio" campaign doesnt seem sincere.

It looks like that they are going through a natural transition; i cant imagine everyone sticking this out.






> There was quite the interesting thread developing regarding
> WLKK. Apparently the board crashed sometime last night and
> that thread was lost or expurgated due to content, which
> didn't seem offensive in the least.

>
> 107.7 has always been signal-impaired. Yet first book
> performances by The Bear and The Lake indicate the signal
> does in fact reach listeners who are curious and interested
> enough to "buy the product." It appears many of those who
> sampled the Lake when it debuted tired of it and went back
> to their normal listening habits. This is the real crux of
> the Lake's problems.
>
> There seems to have occured a tightening of the music and a
> style change among the Lake Guides' backsells and intros.
> Unchanged, however, is the bumper-sweeper production: Still
> the same atonal voice chanting unchanged, creatively lacking
> positioners that have become more of a caricature than a
> branding statement.

>
 
Rimshot Woes

The Lake has the same problem that every other rimshot station has. If you come up with a broad format that gets people interested, a local signal will come along and co-opt that format and/or audience. Lake listeners have been drained away by Jack, the expanded playlist of 97-Rock, and the evolution of WHTT.

On top of that, The Lake has grown fetid, adding singularly impersonal "personalities" who are more stilted in their delivery than any liner-card reader. The cricket/bird bed, along with Mr. Prozac, is now annoying rather than novel. In short, programming mistakes have been made, mostly due to not knowing or understanding the history of the market. This ain't a Prozac market.

Has The Lake turned into a swamp? It's getting there. They need to stir up the waters a little, and stop equating "unradio" with "boring".
 
> There was quite the interesting thread developing regarding
> WLKK. Apparently the board crashed sometime last night and
> that thread was lost or expurgated due to content, which
> didn't seem offensive in the least.

We lost about 24 hours worth of messages at least. Perhaps threads started earlier but also had replies during this period could have also been affected.
 
Mr. Radknowski: (or anyone?)

Any word on wether or not the station (107.7) WOULD have been any better off being a Jack clone?
Keep on mind, they DID have the chance to launch *A* Fickle in Buffalo before Jack signed on at 92.9.
There's signal strength issues, yes, but as one may wish to put it, the "Curious" factor may have been higer with a Jack clone.
I honestly don't know, but I do see that Jack's numbers MAY be high enough to conclude this as possible. (numbers last posted, respectfully)
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> Any word on wether or not the station (107.7) WOULD have
> been any better off being a Jack clone?
> Keep on mind, they DID have the chance to launch *A* Fickle
> in Buffalo before Jack signed on at 92.9.
> There's signal strength issues, yes, but as one may wish to
> put it, the "Curious" factor may have been higer with a Jack
> clone.

Rox puts 107.7 into perspective with his well-reasoned observations in this thread. Fickle, Jack or Bob on 107.7, in my estimation, would have no greater impact or shelf life than what's now on that frequency. The Lake is the second best "fit" for 107.7.

We'll just have to wait and see if the current promotional blitz does anything to revive the station's waning ratings. If there's no improvement, knowledgeable sources say we'll hear country by year's end. But it won't be country the way WNUC did it, which is to say, lean.

Sooner or later somebody's gonna have a "V-8 moment" and realize that the only way to put a dent into WYRK's exclusive country format is by competing with them head-on. Had you asked me five years ago, I would have said WHTT was a prime candidate to go country. As it stands now, WHTT seems to be doing just fine.
 
> Sooner or later somebody's gonna have a "V-8 moment" and
> realize that the only way to put a dent into WYRK's
> exclusive country format is by competing with them head-on.

Wouldn't Wild 101 have figured this out already, and beat 107.7 to the punch?
My pure speculation is open to the idea that they may already do just that.
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