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Even indepently owned stations have carriage disputes with DirecTV

My comment may or may not be off topic but it also involves Directv.

I feel Philip Lombardo Citadel Communications with KLKN and WLNE being off from DirecTV is a big problem while Directv itself is not a problem.

To be very honest Philip Lombardo Citadel Communications doesn't seem to have the ability and energy to keep going with both KLKN and WLNE in the future.

I feel Philip Lombardo and his Citadel Communications missed their chance at not having to deal with the retransmission consent dispute fight issue with DirecTV if they have choose to allow Nexstar to also have KLKN and WLNE when Perry Sock Nexstar acquired KCAU WOI WHBF for Nexstar to take control and to expand their footprint in the Midwest.

My big concern with KLKN on Directv in the Lincoln-Grand Island-Hastings-Kearney TV DMA is that If the dispute keeps continuing past June 1, 2014, DirecTV viewers watching that have watched KLKN may not be able to watch any programming on ABC due to the possibly of NTV (KHGI/KWNB) going off the air and going dark very permanently if the economic conditions worsens and is hit with limited credit conditions with NTV-KHGI not being able to get a reasonable buyer for NTV-KHGI and or being able to get it's licenses renewed in a timely and reasonable manner before it's current licenses expires on June 1 all due to the continuing problem with the Harry Pappas Pappas Telecasting bankruptcy and financial mess and turmoil saga going on since it's original May 2008 bankruptcy filling of any indication for Pappas with NTV-KHGI on both Directv and Dish.

The reason for the Lincoln-Grand Island-Hastings-Kearney TV DMA having 2 separate different ABC stations is that it actually was caused by NTV's big ugly mess being started in around September -October 1983 by Joseph Amaturo and his Amaturo Group decision to spun off their Albion, Nebraska satellite station KCNA channel 8 into KBGT channel 8 as an independent station as well as transmitting from an 2000 foot tower between the Lindsay/Monroe/Genoa area,

http://www.americanradiohistory.com/hd2/Archive-BC-IDX/83-OCR/BC-1983-10-17-OCR-Page-0072.pdf

then in 1986 it loss so much money that Amaturo sell off channel 8 to Philip Lombardo and his Citadel Communications LLC to turn it into a satellite of KCAU from Sioux City, Iowa as KCAN channel 8 Albion in late 1986/early 1987,

http://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc1583/m1/239/

then move channel 8 into the Lincoln area as KLKN channel 8 Lincoln in May 1996, while Amaturo sold NTV (KSNB, KWNB, KHGI still part of the network) to Gordon in 1985, then to Sterling in 1989, then went into receivership with Joseph Amaturo as the trustee in 1990/1991, then got sold to Fant in 1993, and then finally to Harry Pappas and his Pappas Telecasting in 1996/1997, then finally NTV with KFXL went into receivership with Lee W Shubert as the trustee in March 2012 and later with David Stapleton as the receivership trustee in October, 2013. KSNB was one of the stations plagued by the bankruptcy and financial mess and turmoil of Harry Pappas and his Pappas Telecasting that also affected KTVG, KFXL (KCWL, KOWH), NTV (KHGI and KWNB), KCWI/KDMI, WWAZ (now WIWN), WLGA, and KSWT not being affected from the original May 2008 bankruptcy while KPTH/KMEG, KPTM/KXVO, KDBC, and KMPH/KFRE were part of the bankruptcy. KFXL over the air channel on channel 51 in Lincoln could be off the air next year (June 1, 2014 is when the licence is scheduled to expired) due to it's cost to operate the station as well as the cost to built the facilities for KFXL to transmit on channel 15. NTV could go off the same time as well and also due to cost. If NTV and KFXL wants to stay on the air and be more competitive as 10/11 in the future, Harry Pappas and his Pappas Telecasting would likely need to sell the stations to keep those solvent and afloat.

Both the old KHQL/KCNA channel 8 formerly from Albion, Nebraska and KHTL/KSNB channel 4 from Superior, Nebraska were once part of the old enlarge Nebraska Television Network (NTV Network) with KCNA being spunned off to become KBGT as an independent in 1983/1884 under Joseph Amaturo ownership and later get bought by Phillip Lombardo and his Citadel Communications LLC to become KCAN as a satellite of KCAU 9 Sioux City, Iowa and bought back ABC programming to the Albion/Genoa/Columbus/Norfolk area in late 1986/early 1987 and later move the license to Lincoln to become KLKN 8 in 1996 as Lincoln's own ABC, and KSNB 4 flipped from a satellite of KHGI with ABC to a satellite of KTVG with FOX after KLKN signed on from the Lincoln area in 1996 when NTV ABC with KHGI, KSNB, KWNB and KTVG FOX at the time were transitioning from the ownership of Fant Broadcasting to Harry Pappas and his Pappas Telecasting with KSNB going to Collins and KTVG got controlled by HIll.

Just wish that Pappas could have continue to run KSNB if Pappas didn't got being way too busy being involved in a spanish language network joint venture with TV Azteca called Azteca America and later launching Pappas own spanish language network called TuVision.

Harry Pappas and his Pappas Telecasting had all these years to give NTV and KSNB/KTVG the chance to be very competitive but no because the Pappas let those stations run with real thin resources at the same time being very too busy with the Azteca America venture that truly crashed and burned while 10/11 had all the resources to improve their own station and didn't need to buy KSNB 4 to help nurse the station back to health.

Harry Pappas and his Pappas Telecasting may end up bawling and crying anytime for wanting KSNB 4 back very badly to run FOX Nebraska on that channel if KFXL 51 is too expensive to upgrade and handle.

Cox can work well for WLNE, Nexstar can work well for KLKN, KHGI/KWNB with the LMA for KFXL, KCWI, and KDMI, Journal can work well for WIWN by trading and swapping the RF channel for WIWN with another station they could let WIWN to maybe turn into WUMW as Univision Milwaukee with Univision, Unimas, and GETTV on their DT1, DT2, and DT3 digital channel respectively, Media General can work well for WLGA and regains The CW Plus affiliation, and the 25% stake of KAZA to Una Vez Mas for them to own the most full power stations affiliated with Azteca America.

Philip Lombardo and his Citadel Communications with just KLKN and WLNE left in his portfolio and Harry Pappas and his Pappas Telecasting with just KSWT (being sold to Brian brady under his Blackhawk Broadcasting division and to be consolidated with KYMA), The Nebraska Television Network with KHGI and KWNB aka NTV with the LMA for KFXL, KCWI, KDMI, WIWN, and WLGA along with a 25% stake in KAZA left in his portfolio is of any indication that they are more independently owned with fewer stations then when they had more TV stations they owned and control earlier in their broadcasting group lifespan in the past and now both are very likely need to sell all of their respectible stations to another broadcasting group very badly.

I commented on part because of my Nebraska roots and still proudly living in the Cornhusker State.
 
Citadel will likely step up and buy NTV. They've already said they want to extend KLKN to the entire market. And they're flush with cash after the Nexstar sale.
 
Citadel will likely step up and buy NTV. They've already said they want to extend KLKN to the entire market. And they're flush with cash after the Nexstar sale.

To be very honest, I'm very really fearful and nervous that Philip Lombardo and his Citadel Communications will not get full control of NTV and KFXL.

Harry Pappas and his Pappas Telecasting will likely say no to Philip Lombardo and his Citadel Communications for taking full control of NTV and KFXL. Harry Pappas and his Pappas Telecasting would rather sell full control of NTV and KFXL to Brian Brady, Mark Nalbone, or even Cordillera Communications as a way for them to further abuse and misuse the retransmission consent payment option. Pappas would rather prefer allowing Cordillera controlling NTV and KFXL to further bully Time Warner Cable just like they did to the cable subscribers in Corpus Christi, Texas with KRIS and 3 other stations being connected to KRIS, would rather prefer allowing Mark Nalbone controlling NTV and KFXL to further bully Dish just like they did to the Dish satellite subscribers in the Casper and Cheyenne TV DMAs, and would rather prefer allowing Brian Brady controlling NTV and KFXL to further bully Directv, Dish, and Time Warner Cable as well as wanting NTV to further match KSWT and KVTV for TV stations he controls through his various broadcasting group holdings just to have another TV station having been transmitted on VHF channel 13 in the old analog TV era of the past since he is the one wanting to buy KSWT to consolidate it with KYMA in Yuma, Arizona.

I fear the very real big reason for Harry Pappas and his Pappas Telecasting for saying no to Philip Lombardo taking full control of NTV and KFXL is for Pappas to make sure NTV is still an independent ABC affiliate for the Grand Island-Hastings-Kearney area independent of KLKN for Lincoln and also has to do with making sure NTV is still the official television rights holder for the Harvest Of Harmony parade in the future. NTV along with Harry Pappas and his Pappas Telecasting wanted to make sure 10/11 no longer is allowed to keep carrying the Harvest Of Harmony parade on their station after 2006 by pressuring and forcing 10/11 to surrender, give up, and forfeit the rights to still carry the Harvest Of Harmony parade to the viewers from 10/11 beginning in 2007 as a way to punish Time Warner Cable for choosing for their unwillingness, refusal, and failure to carry NTV parent station KHGI out of Kearney on the cable system in Lincoln, Nebraska as part in exchange of the cable system deal to carry KPTM in HDTV in 2006 when Pappas still owned KPTM with KXVO before the original May 2008 bankruptcy filing affecting KPTM with KXVO, KPTH with KMEG, KDBC, and KMPH and KFRE while NTV with KFXL predecessor KCWL and KTVG and KSNB for the FOX affiliation, KSWT, KCWI, KDMI, WWAZ (now WIWN), and WLGA along with 25% stake of KAZA were not part of the bankruptcy filing.

http://journalstar.com/entertainmen...cle_25f46e85-de25-58d7-8c6a-d9c7f55dd0fa.html

The links relating to NTV carrying the Harvest Of Harmony parade from Grand Island:

http://www.theindependent.com/life/...cle_d91189ee-2b08-5a3c-9376-da18c98539d5.html

http://www.theindependent.com/life/...cle_b366349e-9f5f-5be8-bf72-854659ff5b52.html

I feel that Harry Pappas and his Pappas Telecasting were being very greedy, very piggish, and very selfish with the bad choice and bad decision in making and forcing TWC add NTV KHGI channel when reaching a deal to carry KPTM HD and KXVO HD feeds. To my conclusion I feel that Harry Pappas and his Pappas Telecasting indeed done 1910-1940 era Paramount Pictures block booking style type of tying behavior along with 1960-1970 era RKO General style type of bribery tying behavior in a retransmission consent deal forcing the Time Warner Cable to add NTV KHGI ABC channel 13 (Kearney Nebraska station) where it made no since for them to permanently add it on the cable system in Lincoln in exchange for adding KPTM and KXVO HDTV feeds.

If Philip Lombardo and his Citadel Communication got control of NTV and KFXL it would result in KLKN from Lincoln being ABC on it's DT1 digital channel while NTV as KHGI and KWNB from Kearney and Hayes Center being FOX on it's DT1 digital channel but still be able to carry both KLKN as ABC and NTV as KHGI/KWNB as FOX in full 16:9 widescreen HDTV on both stations. KLKN would relay NTV as a FOX stations on it's DT2 digital channel while NTV as KHGI and KWNB would relay KLKN as a ABC station on it's DT2 digital channel. Live Well Network would move over to a DT3 digital channel and could get shown in 16:9 widescreen SDTV over on both KLKN and NTV as KHGI and KWNB coming from KLKN. The downside to that is that what is the best of KFXL would get folded into their senior partner station in the LMA NTV as KHGI and KWNB with while what is left of KFXL possibly being picked up by 10/11 to air on their sister station KSNB 10/11 Central Nebraska and KNOP would have to shut down their own FOX station in order for NTV to still serve the North Platte area and as the FOX station in that area with KNOP being able to fully transmit 10/11 North Platte on it's DT2 digital channel with Gray taking control of KNOP and KNPL LD 10/11 North Platte with K11TW being known as KIIT going dark to make room for NTV carrying KHGI/KWNB FOX and KLKN ABC over on KHGI CD in North Platte.
 
Citadel will likely step up and buy NTV. They've already said they want to extend KLKN to the entire market. And they're flush with cash after the Nexstar sale.

Philip Lombardo and his Citadel Communications won't even get NTV due to the possibly that Nexstar could end up wanting to buy NTV after all while at the same time Nexstar could even take control of KCWI and KDMI to consolidate it with WOI.

If Nexstar ends up with KCWI and KDMI and consolidate it with WOI, it would be a real win win for Nexstar in Des Moines.

If Nexstar ends up with NTV and KFXL, it would possibly mean that Philip Lombardo and his Citadel Communications would wound up throwing in the towel for both KLKN and WLNE and be a lot more flexible in letting Nexstar take total control of KLKN to consolidate it with NTV and KFXL while letting Meredith or Cox take total control of WLNE and what would happen if Cox took total control of WLNE is that it would create efficiencies to scale and match it with control of all the cable systems Cox manage in the Northeast region of the United States or what would happen if Meredith took total control of WLNE is that it would create efficiencies to scale and match it with the other TV stations Meredith already has under their portfolio in the Northeast region.

Keep in mind that Nexstar already took control of WOI from Citadel and KCWI and KDMI from Pappas would make great sense for Nexstar to from a real virtual tripoly to create greater efficiencies to scale for the Des Moines TV DMA in general.
 
OK, let's break down some really important things:

#1. Pappas isn't Pappas. The family isn't involved now; it's a liquidation trust run by a guy named David Stapleton (and which was previously managed by Lee W. Shubert—click for bio). They have been shopping these stations for more than a year, if the situation with KSWT is any indicator. Pappas's major assets have already been sold off—primarily to Titan, which in turn was absorbed by Sinclair. The current Pappas is a mixture of really bad spectrum speculator bait (WLGA), mediocre with sale potential (KDMI) and two or three comparative prizes (part-ownership of KAZA Los Angeles, NTV plus the LMA for KFXL, and KSWT). All of it is operating at status quo with little capital investment. Pappas does not have a desire to bully cable companies. Pappas has a desire to sell itself piecemeal to the highest bidder and be done.

#2. The situation of not achieving full market coverage has to be a drain on both NTV and KLKN, considering their competition. NTV is probably, given the Pappas situation outlined above, up for sale. Brian Brady is probably not bidding for it. Cordillera, whose closest stations are in Colorado Springs and Montana, wouldn't be likely either. I don't see Nexstar here especially since they did not pick up KLKN, though they certainly could do it.

#3. The Gray acquisition of Hoak/Parker puts NTV and KLKN in the same corner. Gray will own the markets (North Platte isn't much of a market of its own with all operations tied to the rest of the Lincoln/Hastings/Kearney market—together, they're around DMA 100), including a monopoly on NBC (WOWT from Omaha, KHAS, KNOP) and CBS (KOLN/KGIN, KNPL) service. To scale up appropriately, the remaining operations in the market will need to combine. A KLKN/KHGI/KFXL merger would be a major relief for Pappas's bankruptcy trustees (which want to liquidate the remaining assets), a key for Citadel and the only way to build an operation against Gray's juggernaut.

#4. Also, for the short-term, Gray would still run the Fox service in North Platte, though K11TW/KIIT will probably be shut down as a separate signal. I don't think Gray will see a need to convert that station to digital when KNOP-DT2 and/or KNPL-LD already have the capacity to carry Fox.
 
OK, let's break down some really important things:

#1. Pappas isn't Pappas. The family isn't involved now; it's a liquidation trust run by a guy named David Stapleton (and which was previously managed by Lee W. Shubert—click for bio). They have been shopping these stations for more than a year, if the situation with KSWT is any indicator. Pappas's major assets have already been sold off—primarily to Titan, which in turn was absorbed by Sinclair. The current Pappas is a mixture of really bad spectrum speculator bait (WLGA), mediocre with sale potential (KDMI) and two or three comparative prizes (part-ownership of KAZA Los Angeles, NTV plus the LMA for KFXL, and KSWT). All of it is operating at status quo with little capital investment. Pappas does not have a desire to bully cable companies. Pappas has a desire to sell itself piecemeal to the highest bidder and be done.

#2. The situation of not achieving full market coverage has to be a drain on both NTV and KLKN, considering their competition. NTV is probably, given the Pappas situation outlined above, up for sale. Brian Brady is probably not bidding for it. Cordillera, whose closest stations are in Colorado Springs and Montana, wouldn't be likely either. I don't see Nexstar here especially since they did not pick up KLKN, though they certainly could do it.

#3. The Gray acquisition of Hoak/Parker puts NTV and KLKN in the same corner. Gray will own the markets (North Platte isn't much of a market of its own with all operations tied to the rest of the Lincoln/Hastings/Kearney market—together, they're around DMA 100), including a monopoly on NBC (WOWT from Omaha, KHAS, KNOP) and CBS (KOLN/KGIN, KNPL) service. To scale up appropriately, the remaining operations in the market will need to combine. A KLKN/KHGI/KFXL merger would be a major relief for Pappas's bankruptcy trustees (which want to liquidate the remaining assets), a key for Citadel and the only way to build an operation against Gray's juggernaut.

#4. Also, for the short-term, Gray would still run the Fox service in North Platte, though K11TW/KIIT will probably be shut down as a separate signal. I don't think Gray will see a need to convert that station to digital when KNOP-DT2 and/or KNPL-LD already have the capacity to carry Fox.

The article about Gray expanding in Nebraska is here:

http://journalstar.com/entertainmen...cle_ee0f561a-f880-5eda-b913-f3d0258da7a5.html

The article for Lombardo and Cole cutting back is here:

http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/70543/lombardo-cole-cut-back-but-far-from-out
 
Dish has been involved with their retransmission consent dispute with Independent Communications with KTTW being off since September 25.

I totally would favor KELO with their present owner/parent Media General or KSFY with their soon to be new owner/parent Gray Television to acquire control of KTTW/KTTM as the only last resort to put KTTW back on DISH sooner than never.

Dish also has a retransmission consent dispute with United Communications with KEYC CBS/FOX and WWNY CBS/WNYF CD FOX off from Dish in October and has since been restored.

Dish had a retransmission consent issue with all of Mark Nalbone TV station from January to May in 2012.

DirecTV, Dish, and Time Warner Cable had it's share of retransmission consent disputes with various Brian Brady broadcasting holding groups in the past.

Citadel Communications had a dispute with Dish in 2008 with KLKN, KCAU, WOi, and WHBF off from Dish, a dispute with the Time Warner Cable system in Lincoln, Nebraska in 2010 with KLKN off the system, and now are in a dispute with DirecTV with now KLKN and WLNE being off from DirecTV. If Philip Lombardo and Ray Cole and their Citadel Communications want to acquire NTV they must settle their dispute with DirecTV pronto and right now and not make difficulties with Dish and cable operations such as Charter and Time Warner cable in Nebraska in the future for both the enlarge KLKN ABC with KHGI/KWNB DT2 with the enlarge NTV (KHGI/KWNB) with KLKN DT2 along with the best of the best of KFXL and the FOX affiliation being folded into it's LMA senior partner station KHGI/KWNB with NTV continuing to air all of their local programming as a FOX station just like they are currently as a ABC affiliate. Pappas tried it's best with NTV as the only ABC affiliate in the Pappas portfolio and not let it become the worst and the most pathetic ABC affiliated station like Sinclair did it to KDNL in Saint Louis.

I feel the current retransmission consent disputes involved DirecTV and Dish along with Time Warner cable for not only payments but also wanting all digital rights to all programming from the stations affected in the recent retransmission consent disputes going on right now.

I am feed up with all of the broadcasters acting like cry babies by failing to understand DirecTV and Dish as well as all the cable operators including Time Warner Cable for future digital rights.

I feel all the broadcasters are engaging in 1910-1940 era Paramount Pictures block booking style type and 1960-1970 era RKO General bribery style type of tying behavioral practices as a way to bully all cable and DirecTV and Dish to the 1992 Cable Act that no longer has any meaning for the TV stations to improve on the TV stations product quality to compete with the cable channels for the TV stations ownership and parentship with retransmission consent payment option to further enhance their revenue and not even put money into the TV stations into improving product quality as well as using the retrans money to further up building on JSA/LMA/SSA with another station in the same market with the same news clips being shown on 2 different stations to further cut costs as well as buying up more TV stations in the same market and entering into more markets where they currently don't own TV stations at all.

I'm totally against the Gannett-Belo deal because Gannett choose to fail to allow other broadcasters into letting them take any of the TV stations from Belo that Gannett isn't allowed to fully control in overlap markets where Gannett already owns a TV station or a newspaper. I'm not for Gannett control of both KMOV and KSDK in Saint Louis as well as in Phoenix, Tucson, Louisville, and Portland.

I would allow Sinclair to acquire Allbritton if Sinclair would allow another broadcasting group to have the Harrisburg CBS and CW stations so Sinclair can solely focus on the ABC station with my idea of me wanting Nexstar for WHP CBS and WLYH CW in a trading and swapping deal with Nexstar giving WFXR/WWCW to Sinclair while Sinclair gives WHP/WLYH to Nexstar and an option in which Sinclair can also give KBTV/KFDM, KEYE, and WOAI/KABB/KMYS to Nexstar since those station fit real well with Nexstar and they are close to Nexstar headquarters in Irving, Texas. The Sinclair virtual tripoly in the Harrisburg-Lancaster-Lebanon-York TV DMA would be a huge problem while the virtual tripoly in Charleston, South Caroling and Birmingham, Alabama would not be a problem at all.

I do like Gray Television taking control of Hoak due to the fact that KHAS and KNOP would benefit being connected with 10/11 and bring much needed fusion of cash to help those station and put them to the highest level that Gray can and Hoak and earlier owners/parents couldn't do such as web streaming of it's newscasts like Gray does with WOWT and 10/11.

Gray is willing to divest Hoak stations in overlap markets with my idea is that Gray could give KREX/KREY/KREG, KGJT LP, and KFQX to Cordillera while Cordillera gives KRIS and KZTV to Gray as a win-win for both Gray and Cordillera as well as Time Warner Cable in Corpus Christi, Texas or could give KREX/KREY/KREG, KGJT LP, and KFQX to Nexstar while Nexstar gives WLAX/WEUX to Excalibur under Gray control. Gray gives WMBB with KNOE/KAQY, and KALB to Raycom while Raycom gives KCBD or KOLD to Gray.
 
Let's break it down again:

#5. Retrans disputes are everywhere these days. A few years ago there was a dispute between WBRZ and Dish that went on for two years, plus Fisher and Dish went at it in a tiff that I think lasted over a year.

#6. "Pappas tried its best with NTV as the only ABC affiliate in the Pappas portfolio and not let it become the worst and the most pathetic ABC affiliated station like Sinclair did it to KDNL in Saint Louis." There is no way NTV can ever come close to KDNL levels. There are quite a few worse ABC affiliates than NTV—WXLV (another Sinclair outlet) and KSVI (a Nexstar-owned outlet in Montana with a complete lack of local news) stick out.

#7. How can you support something like Sinclair in Charleston (in which Sinclair would own two Big Four outlets) and Gray's pending acquisition of a three-of-four in North Platte, yet disapprove of St. Louis (where Gannett and Belo would control two-thirds of market revenue with a two-of-four)? Charleston and Harrisburg are what the Allbritton acquisition is hanging on. Also, your idea of a Sinclair/Nexstar trade ignores the fact that Nexstar actually divested KBTV—its first ever station sale.

#8. About Gray divesting certain overlapping Hoak stations: Cordillera hasn't been involved in any of the M&A this year. They WILL be divesting KREX/KFQX and WMBB, because ownership of either would represent a monopoly. Don't expect TWC to step up with the current acquisition rumors swirling around them. I don't see Gray and Raycom trading stations—while KCBD and KOLD (plus assets of KMSB*) don't make geographic sense for Raycom, they don't exactly make geographic sense for Gray either. Gray owns two stations in Texas—and they're nowhere near Lubbock.

*Neither Gannett, Belo nor Sander Broadcasting will actually be operating KMSB; Belo owns the license but KMSB and sister KTTU are SSA'd out to Raycom/KOLD. The lone reason Tucson is involved with Sander is because Gannett owns half of the Arizona Daily Star newspaper, itself a legacy of Gannett's own newspaper (the Tucson Citizen) that then came under JOA and folded.
 
Nexstar divested KBTV mainly to pay down the debt for paying Green Bay CBS station from Liberty before Nexstar started to grew in July 2012 by buying stations piecemail from Newport, Smith for WFFF and WVNY, Grantie for KSEE, Citadel for KCAU, WOI, WHBF (still admit I wish they would have bought KLKN so DirecTV viewers would not had to deal with the retransmission mission consent dispute with KLKN and WLNE being off from the DirecTV satellite system since October 18) while buying Communications Corporation of America and Milton Grant Broadcasting Systems 2 as a whole.
 
#5. Retrans disputes are everywhere these days. A few years ago there was a dispute between WBRZ and Dish that went on for two years, plus Fisher and Dish went at it in a tiff that I think lasted over a year.

Actually, what I called "Fish v dish" lasted 5 1/2 months, starting a week before Christmas 2008 and ending just before the DTV switchover. I know. I had dish then - and still do now, but I also had backup for most of the ABC stuff (it's called CTV, Global and the now-defunct Equity backhauls).
 
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