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every single clear channel station has a playlist of 200 or less

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tcsnrayp

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Some people may actually believe this statement:
"every single clear channel station has a playlist of 200 or less"

Checking for library count... 8 Atlanta stations are monitored... only one is a Clear Channel station. This might help:

TOTAL DIFFERENT TITLES PLAYED IN ONE WEEK
Monday 2/12--Sunday 2/18/07

WBTS/Beat = 128
STAR = 198
Q105 = 200
WKLS = 322
WSRV/River = 326
WSB-98.5 = 464
99X = 482
DAVE = 550
 
Re: Small playlists

tcsnrayp said:
Some people may actually believe this statement:
"every single clear channel station has a playlist of 200 or less"

Checking for library count... 8 Atlanta stations are monitored... only one is a Clear Channel station. This might help:

TOTAL DIFFERENT TITLES PLAYED IN ONE WEEK
Monday 2/12--Sunday 2/18/07

WBTS/Beat = 128
STAR = 198
Q105 = 200
WKLS = 322
WSRV/River = 326
WSB-98.5 = 464
99X = 482
DAVE = 550
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1. B98.5's number is inflated due to Delilah. Local playlist is about 300.

2. I wonder if saving money on royalties is the reason for these small playlists (radio's dirty little secret if you will).
 
Atl playlist lengths

A check of Mediabase 24/7 on unique titles played:

CC LIBRARY STATIONS
WKLS 556
WUBL 465

COX LIBRARY STATIONS
WSB-FM 348
WSRV 325

ABC/CITADEL
WZGC 818
WYAY 348
WKHX 293 (note: with another 175 that had only 1 spin)
 
Re: Small playlists

jal41 said:
tcsnrayp said:
Some people may actually believe this statement:
"every single clear channel station has a playlist of 200 or less"

Checking for library count... 8 Atlanta stations are monitored... only one is a Clear Channel station. This might help:

TOTAL DIFFERENT TITLES PLAYED IN ONE WEEK
Monday 2/12--Sunday 2/18/07

WBTS/Beat = 128
STAR = 198
Q105 = 200
WKLS = 322
WSRV/River = 326
WSB-98.5 = 464
99X = 482
DAVE = 550
Click to expand...

1. B98.5's number is inflated due to Delilah. Local playlist is about 300.

2. I wonder if saving money on royalties is the reason for these small playlists (radio's dirty little secret if you will).
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wnnx's number is inflated by speciaty show spins, 5 hours of retroplex, 4 hours organic x and one hour sunday school. That probably knock the number down by 120 songs (figuring 12 songs an hour).

I think dave has similar specialty shows.
 
""2. I wonder if saving money on royalties is the reason for these small playlists (radio's dirty little secret if you will).""

The rates for ASCAP, BMI and SESAC are blanket rates based on revenue, ratings, and rate (in different formulas). Your royalty fees are the same whether you play 1000 songs or one song over and over.

Small playlists exist because they have historically worked for the mass audience (if not for radio geeks).

In today's satellite, streaming, multicast environment, they are a double edged sword. You have more competition for ears when people want variety, but on the other hand, it's even more important that every song firmly identifies what you are.

Of course my personal theory is that small playlists have always worked because the stations that spend money to over-research their music are the same stations that spend money on promotion and air talent.
 
Re: Small playlists

f10 said:
jal41 said:
tcsnrayp said:
Some people may actually believe this statement:
"every single clear channel station has a playlist of 200 or less"

Checking for library count... 8 Atlanta stations are monitored... only one is a Clear Channel station. This might help:

TOTAL DIFFERENT TITLES PLAYED IN ONE WEEK
Monday 2/12--Sunday 2/18/07

WBTS/Beat = 128
STAR = 198
Q105 = 200
WKLS = 322
WSRV/River = 326
WSB-98.5 = 464
99X = 482
DAVE = 550
Click to expand...

1. B98.5's number is inflated due to Delilah. Local playlist is about 300.

2. I wonder if saving money on royalties is the reason for these small playlists (radio's dirty little secret if you will).
Click to expand...

wnnx's number is inflated by speciaty show spins, 5 hours of retroplex, 4 hours organic x and one hour sunday school. That probably knock the number down by 120 songs (figuring 12 songs an hour).

I think dave has similar specialty shows.
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Explain why this means their numbers are "inflated". If they play a host of different songs EVERY DAY for certain hours, no matter what the reason is, that still means they're playing a variety. "Inflated" would apply if they were being monitiored on a particular week where they were playing an unusually large number of different songs for a particular reason (like an end of the year countdown). If Dave or 99X plays a wide range of songs every day - for whatever reason - it legitimizes the Soundscan figures.
 
geek on caffeine said:
Check this: Songs in the AM1690 playlist - 2300. No B.S. That station has the lock on true variety in the Atlanta market.
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i can pick that up here at night. that is a variety station for sure!! ;D
 
tcsnrayp said:
Some people may actually believe this statement:
"every single clear channel station has a playlist of 200 or less"
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whoever said that is a moron
 
geek on caffeine said:
Check this: Songs in the AM1690 playlist - 2300. No B.S. That station has the lock on true variety in the Atlanta market.
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And just where did this monster of a station show up in the ratings? I'll bet somewhere near dead last.
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Dave's may be inflated a little due to:
Little Steven's Underground Garage
Dave After Tomorrow
Radio Free Lunch
Retro in the Metro
Widespread Panic Wednesday
Acoustic Sunrise

By inflated, I mean that these shows spin songs once or twice and then never again. When was the last time Dave spun The Charms other than on Little Steven's Underground Garage? Or Abba other than Radio Free Lunch?
 
geek on caffeine said:
Check this: Songs in the AM1690 playlist - 2300. No B.S. That station has the lock on true variety in the Atlanta market.
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Umm... not really.

WREK 91.1 has 8269 songs in its playlist. And that only includes tracks that have been put into the computer system; we have a huge library of vinyl and CDs to pull from as well.
 
Let me see if I understand. In order for your playlist not to be "inflated", you have to play a song over and over again. ???
 
WREK with over 8,200 songs is a start. The radio stations should have a larger collection than even the most avid collector. That's part of the problem why radio has lost its appeal to music listeners. In this age when people have 500 to 1,000 songs in their pocket (Ipods and the like), they have more songs they know they like than the local radio stations play. And they know they will like every song or they'll delete it from their Ipod. Any music station should have at least 2,000 songs on their playlist. Sure, some tracks are played more than others - but it's the ones in between that make the difference. Radio stations are no longer just competing with other radio stations. It's time they realize it.
 
Way Back in my days at the legendary WTIX(Top 40) New Orleans, it was playlist repeat every 2 hours on currents.station was solid number one, but that tight playlist drove the jocks nuts.but the rule was a tight playlist will win everytime.now today with extensive in office listening i think the listeners would catch on quick, hence the no repeat workdays some ac's used.just wonder what the TSL's look like for those stations.listener complaints of too much repitition drove many of them to the IPODS and other devices they have access to today.it's a different playing field today
 
i live in nashville and there clear channel stations play the same music too. i'm curious to know how many songs each station in nashville plays. would be great if someone could look this up for me or show and tell me how to look it up myself
 
jason99 said:
i'm curious to know how many songs each station in nashville plays.
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There are 6 BDS monitored stations in Nashweird. Using the same criteria that started this thread, they played the following number of titles titles this past week... (This does not necessarily represent their entire library--just unique titles played at least once in 7 days)

BUZ/The Buzz = 479
CJK/Jack = 987 (!)
RLT/Lightening = 856
RQQ = 579
RVW/River = 201
VNS/Venus = 522
 
playlist of 200 or less

jason99 said:
i live in nashville and there clear channel stations play the same music too. i'm curious to know how many songs each station in nashville plays. would be great if someone could look this up for me or show and tell me how to look it up myself
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"Plays the same music, too" as who?
 
Yes Mr. Sssnake....WREK does have a diversified collection.
But just how many bird calls does YOUR station have? Huuuhm?
A station truly serving the Atlanta sophisticate MUST have bird calls!
(And "yellowjacket mating ritual" recordings do not count.)
 
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