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evolution of the Rock format?

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So what is MMR doing playing Blondie and the Smithereens? What is this in response to? Is the future of the rock format more inclusive, ie playing new wave type artists next to Tom Petty next to Coldplay resulting in a wider playlist?
 
> So what is MMR doing playing Blondie and the Smithereens?
> What is this in response to? Is the future of the rock
> format more inclusive, ie playing new wave type artists next
> to Tom Petty next to Coldplay resulting in a wider playlist?
>

Well, as so many good radio people on this board have opined, there seems to be a shrinking pool of available listeners to terrestrial radio. With the recent surge of BEN and the continued success of B101...and, to a lesser extent SUNNY..it would seem to make more sense to broaden one's formatic reach rather than limit it.

That having been said, if they want to include those styles of "Rock" in their regular playlist, they could (a) bring in (cume) more and different listeners or (b) totally piss off the loyal and true rockers, for whom Blondie represents the death throes of Disco into early Punksters and the Smithereens represent the Neo-rockers into Bright Eyes-styled Alt/Rock of the '90s.

It's a gamble that, imho, if well-done, would seem to be a logical growth of the Rock format. Will Philly phans of "pure rock" buy into it? My vote goes to a "yes".

Should be a fun Summer Book, right? :)
 
> > So what is MMR doing playing Blondie and the Smithereens?
> > What is this in response to? Is the future of the rock
> > format more inclusive, ie playing new wave type artists
> next
> > to Tom Petty next to Coldplay resulting in a wider
> playlist?
> >
>
> Well, as so many good radio people on this board have
> opined, there seems to be a shrinking pool of available
> listeners to terrestrial radio. With the recent surge of BEN
> and the continued success of B101...and, to a lesser extent
> SUNNY..it would seem to make more sense to broaden one's
> formatic reach rather than limit it.
>
> That having been said, if they want to include those styles
> of "Rock" in their regular playlist, they could (a) bring in
> (cume) more and different listeners or (b) totally piss off
> the loyal and true rockers, for whom Blondie represents the
> death throes of Disco into early Punksters and the
> Smithereens represent the Neo-rockers into Bright
> Eyes-styled Alt/Rock of the '90s.
>
> It's a gamble that, imho, if well-done, would seem to be a
> logical growth of the Rock format. Will Philly phans of
> "pure rock" buy into it? My vote goes to a "yes".
>
> Should be a fun Summer Book, right? :)


Because MMR has had so many rock formats over the years it wouldn't be a bad idea to incorporate all types of "Rock" into the format... the harder stuff (STP, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, etc) the more melodic (Coldplay, the Killers, Counting Crows) and the singer-songwriters (Bright Eyes, Ben Folds, Ben Lee, Jim James). And of course throw in the occasional Classic (with sister station MGK picking up the slack on the Doors, AC/DC, VH, etc)
 
Over to YSP....I was flipping around and heard Iron Maiden's "Flight of Icarus" on the overnight Saturday. There is an oh wow factor. Has YSP been adding more "hair" metal, outside of the specialty shows? (I'm locked on XM, so I'm asking my board brethern to report the view from "the other side")<P ID="signature">______________
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> Over to YSP....I was flipping around and heard Iron Maiden's
> "Flight of Icarus" on the overnight Saturday. There is an oh
> wow factor. Has YSP been adding more "hair" metal, outside
> of the specialty shows? (I'm locked on XM, so I'm asking my
> board brethern to report the view from "the other side")
>
Honestly, when I have listened to YSP I have found them very inconsistent relative to which "type" of rock they are playing. I think the new flavor of the month rock station format is more hybrid...mixture of any type of rock that tests well regardless of era.

Anyone look at a duplication report for the three GM stations? I am just wondering about the cannibalization factor BEN has on WMMR and WMGK...I think BEN is going to take the women away from both stations.

All I know is that YSP better get an identity quick.
 
From what I posted a few weeks ago, YSP is going Harder and less Classic in their diet, hope it works. Now if they would unload the Eagles, Couzin/Tanya, have a music intense morning show after Howard departs, I would be set...I know that is YSP's bread and butter, its nice to dream, isn't it??
 
> Over to YSP....I was flipping around and heard Iron Maiden's
> "Flight of Icarus" on the overnight Saturday. There is an oh
> wow factor. Has YSP been adding more "hair" metal, outside
> of the specialty shows?

This weekend, WYSP is doing a "Play Something ELSE Off That Album!" weekend. So, they may have played "Flight Of Icarus" instead of the usual "Run To The Hills". From Soundgarden's "Down On The Upside", you might hear "Zero Chance" or "Dusty" instead of the usual "Burden In My Hand" or "Pretty Noose".

They're addressing a long-time complaint of listeners who buy full-length CD's but only ever hear the one or two or three hits from it on the radio.

When I used to answer the phones at Y100, and we were playing Ace Of Base's "The Sign" for the 7,000th time, I got a string of calls one afternoon from some 10-year-old kids requesting "Young And Proud", then "Dancer In A Daydream", then "Wheel Of Fortune", then "Waiting For Magic", then "Happy Nation", then "Voulez-Vous Danser", then "My Mind". Quite amusing/irritating when I realized they were rattling off Ace Of Base "deep album cuts".<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: evolution of Your Station in Philadelphia

> > Over to YSP....I was flipping around and heard Iron
> Maiden's
> > "Flight of Icarus" on the overnight Saturday. There is an
> oh
> > wow factor. Has YSP been adding more "hair" metal, outside
>
> > of the specialty shows? (I'm locked on XM, so I'm asking
> my
> > board brethern to report the view from "the other side")
> >
> Honestly, when I have listened to YSP I have found them very
> inconsistent relative to which "type" of rock they are
> playing. I think the new flavor of the month rock station
> format is more hybrid...mixture of any type of rock that
> tests well regardless of era.
>
> Anyone look at a duplication report for the three GM
> stations? I am just wondering about the cannibalization
> factor BEN has on WMMR and WMGK...I think BEN is going to
> take the women away from both stations.
>
> All I know is that YSP better get an identity quick.
>

WYSP will be just fine in regards remaining the #1 rock station so long as they don't rely on The Chili peppers, and pearl jam like WMMR seems to do. WYSP plays metallica selections that WMMR doesn't touch, WMMR will not play Iron Maiden. I think they both can be accused of playing Kiss every now and then, they currently are playing The Killers.For the most part WYSP's identity is as a hard rocker in Phila.
 
Re: evolution of Your Station in Philadelphia

>
> WYSP will be just fine in regards remaining the #1 rock
> station so long as they don't rely on The Chili peppers, and
> pearl jam like WMMR seems to do. WYSP plays metallica
> selections that WMMR doesn't touch, WMMR will not play Iron
> Maiden. I think they both can be accused of playing Kiss
> every now and then, they currently are playing The
> Killers.For the most part WYSP's identity is as a hard
> rocker in Phila.
>
No, after Stern they are a mediocre station at best. The only reason they have mid day numbers is due to the Stern ripple effect of him going long. More people listen to that 18 minute stop set at the conclusion of his show than mid day.

Think about how many people actually turn off YSP once Stern is done. I for one refuse to listen. Think about their PM drive after O&A had to go. I rarely ever listen to YSP in PM drive and I was an O&A regular. YSP's numbers are almost all Howard. You live by the penis joke, you die by the penis joke.
 
Hmmm...how many of you were around, and actively listening to this new thing called "The Marconi Experement" back in 1967? It was a 4 hour show where the jock basically played whatever he felt like(where have I heard that before?). About a year and a half later, they judged the experement to be a success(you were correct Tearson) and turned the station into a 24 hr. celebration of music. The WMMR as a rock and roll station was born. If I remember correctly, Carol Miller, a jock at the station at that time, in an interview in my high school paper, said that their mission was to play cuts from the top 100 rock, blues, and jazz albums of the day, with an occasional classical cut thrown in for good measure. It was against form to hear the same song's over and over. Perhaps you heard a current once or twice a week. There was just too much music to be heard. Kind of like today, or last year or 20 years ago! So why not play them all. To those of you who are young enough to be my children(I'm 48), this is the radio I was fortunate enough to listen to back in the day. Could it be that radio is moving forward by moving backward? Not so much the music, but formatically. God, let's hope so for it's sake.

The Old Timer


> So what is MMR doing playing Blondie and the Smithereens?
> What is this in response to? Is the future of the rock
> format more inclusive, ie playing new wave type artists next
> to Tom Petty next to Coldplay resulting in a wider playlist?
>
 
It shouldn't be odd for WMMR to play Blondie and the Smithereens. MMR was the first station in Philly to play both of those bands, and should be proud of their heritage. I also think that WMGK can distance itself from MMR by playing the classic rock that actually means something to Philadelphia: Go deep into the libraries of Bruce, Billy, Genesis, Peter Gabriel, Yes, the Kinks, etc. as a core, drop some of the national artists that they overplay, and tailor the sound to Philly
 
Re: evolution of Your Station in Philadelphia

> >
> No, after Stern they are a mediocre station at best. The
> only reason they have mid day numbers is due to the Stern
> ripple effect of him going long. More people listen to that
> 18 minute stop set at the conclusion of his show than mid
> day.
>
> Think about how many people actually turn off YSP once Stern
> is done. I for one refuse to listen. Think about their PM
> drive after O&A had to go. I rarely ever listen to YSP in
> PM drive and I was an O&A regular. YSP's numbers are almost
> all Howard. You live by the penis joke, you die by the
> penis joke.
>

I also agree with the feeling that YSP is going to take a phenominal hit once Stern departs and the buzz wears off on his replacement (if there is one). Many people think that YSP is the harder rock station in Philly becuase they do go deeper into acts from Metallica, etc... But it seems like Infinity is not big on the format, and if YSP's post Howard numbers are less than or equal to MMR, MGK etc..., they may be inclined to drop the format.

I am an MMR fan, but I still feel that there is way too much overlap with MGK, who they should not be "competing" against. I have been holding out hope that MMR's playlist will distance itself from MGK's playlist. I have a feeling that when Stern does leave there will be a major shake up here. Should be very interesting.
 
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