Excellent Podcasting Service

[pellmell]

There is yet another excellent free podcasting service that claims to be paying all performance royalties for music. You have to report the songs you're playing. You might be able to get your call letters or show name if you sign up for an account now.

MixCloud

I don't do music podcasting so I have not fully investigated the terms and conditions, but for voice podcasting, they look to be fabulous.

 

[JeeperOne]

If I have to report to them which songs I use, chances are THERE IS A CATCH THAT DOES NOT INVOLVE ROYALTIES !!!!!

I could put the same music on a station which I launch on Live365 & the artist would still get paid. But if I have to report to these clowns, that's a completely different beast altogether that's screaming PLAGUE !!!!!

You go ahead & use them if you want. Meanwhile some of us more experienced netcasters who also podcast will stick to familiar turf

Cheers

 

[pellmell]

If I have to report to them which songs I use, chances are THERE IS A CATCH THAT DOES NOT INVOLVE ROYALTIES !!!!!

Please tell us what that catch is, Pat. Please be specific. You've made a serious accusation, so I'm sure you can back it up. I'll happily forward your concerns to the company.

You go ahead & use them if you want. Meanwhile some of us more experienced netcasters who also podcast will stick to familiar turf

You and your "more experienced" netcasters should stick with whatever turf makes you comfortable.

 

[helloagain]

It looks like an interesting service...thanks for sharing.

I am looking for music by artists who are interested in getting their music played and promoted more than they are wanting to take a chance that they will actually get paid money due too them.

Any sites that promote indie artists of all genres that just want to get their music out?

 

[thesj]

If I have to report to them which songs I use, chances are THERE IS A CATCH THAT DOES NOT INVOLVE ROYALTIES !!!!!

I could put the same music on a station which I launch on Live365 & the artist would still get paid. But if I have to report to these clowns, that's a completely different beast altogether that's screaming PLAGUE !!!!!

You go ahead & use them if you want. Meanwhile some of us more experienced netcasters who also podcast will stick to familiar turf

Cheers

This is completely absurd, and dead wrong. I can't fathom what kind of misguided process went on in your mind to equate reporting what songs you play with a "catch that does not involve royalties". I will ignore the obvious grammatical nightmare.

Live365 accomplishes royalty reporting by taking the tags in the stream and using those for reporting. Guess what, if you use Live365, your streaming software is reporting to Live365. MP3 files are technically incapable of containing this information.

To pay royalties, Mixcloud has to know what songs were played, it goes on the reports they fill out. Any person who has actually dealt with royalties, instead of claiming to be a royalty expert based on involvement with a "we-do-it-all-for-you" service, would know this. If they don't make me report what songs are played, I know that they won't be paying royalties. Because they won't know who to pay them to.

You can use Mixcloud, put major label music on there, and you are completely licensed. That's what they do.

 

[JeeperOne]

If I have to report to them which songs I use, chances are THERE IS A CATCH THAT DOES NOT INVOLVE ROYALTIES !!!!!

I could put the same music on a station which I launch on Live365 & the artist would still get paid. But if I have to report to these clowns, that's a completely different beast altogether that's screaming PLAGUE !!!!!

You go ahead & use them if you want. Meanwhile some of us more experienced netcasters who also podcast will stick to familiar turf

Cheers

This is completely absurd, and dead wrong. I can't fathom what kind of misguided process went on in your mind to equate reporting what songs you play with a "catch that does not involve royalties". I will ignore the obvious grammatical nightmare.

Live365 accomplishes royalty reporting by taking the tags in the stream and using those for reporting. Guess what, if you use Live365, your streaming software is reporting to Live365. MP3 files are technically incapable of containing this information.

Have you ever edited ID3 tags with an ID3 tag editor or do you depend on payware that does this for you (If it can)?

MP3 files are capable of containing more information than you think

But what I know? I've only been streaming (In one form or another) SINCE 1998. How long have YOU been at it?

Cheers

 

[thesj]

ID3 does not contain information on multiple songs in a radio show/DJ set, including timing information, all of which is required for legally reporting royalties. And yes, I've edited them, although I don't believe that having edited one makes me an expert.

And you failed to answer as to the original point: why would reporting to an authority insinuate that royalties will not be paid? To those who are knowledgeable about these laws - it makes it clear that this is a service that pays royalties, as they have to know this information as a condition of copyright law.

I've seen your posts in other threads, and every time you are shilling Live365 as the only real solution while spreading misinformation about copyright law. I understand that you may be concerned or worried about copyright, which is to many people a confusing mess of laws, but you don't actually know what you're talking about when it comes to copyright.

I respect your experience, but please don't pretend it's something it's not. Live365 is dead simple, and I recommend it to many people who need an easy solution. But using Live365 is just that: an easy solution for people who don't understand copyright laws. Use of it (even for 13 years) does not make you an expert on copyright law. It doesn't even make you an expert on streaming technology. It makes you an expert on Live365, which is a small subset of the many streaming offerings available.

 

[JeeperOne]

ID3 does not contain information on multiple songs in a radio show/DJ set, including timing information, all of which is required for legally reporting royalties. And yes, I've edited them, although I don't believe that having edited one makes me an expert.

While it's true that ID3 tags don't contain information about individual songs IN A SHOW, they can be submitted as a text file (Unfortunately it's not as easy as pie EVEN IF your show is on Live365). This part needs to be changed (Extra fields can be added for starters). But if all you're doing is uploading a bunch of songs & NOT creating a "Mix" show, then all you need to do is to edit the ID3 tag information for each track

Thing is some folks don't realize they need to do that. As such, they run a chance of getting into trouble for it

And you failed to answer as to the original point: why would reporting to an authority insinuate that royalties will not be paid?

Outside of my references (Direct or otherwise) to SoundExtortion, I don't recall saying that. Care to quote such a reference?

To those who are knowledgeable about these laws - it makes it clear that this is a service that pays royalties, as they have to know this information as a condition of copyright law.

OK maybe they do. They just weren't very convincing to me

I've seen your posts in other threads, and every time you are shilling Live365 as the only real solution while spreading misinformation about copyright law. I understand that you may be concerned or worried about copyright, which is to many people a confusing mess of laws, but you don't actually know what you're talking about when it comes to copyright.

My concern for others possibly violating copyright law aside (As I believe you get that part), where did you get your law degree from again?

Sorry but you strike me as someone who may be just as confused on copyright law as I am as a common layperson with no law degree

I respect your experience, but please don't pretend it's something it's not. Live365 is dead simple, and I recommend it to many people who need an easy solution. But using Live365 is just that: an easy solution for people who don't understand copyright laws. Use of it (even for 13 years) does not make you an expert on copyright law. It doesn't even make you an expert on streaming technology. It makes you an expert on Live365, which is a small subset of the many streaming offerings available.

At least they're not in the shoes of the service being sought after by the RIAA for not living up to their legal obligations with regards to royalty payments

MODS Can we move this thread out of Podcasting & over to Webcasting since that's where it's headed please? (Just trying to keep the forum on topic)

Cheers & 73

 

[thesj]

Outside of my references (Direct or otherwise) to SoundExtortion, I don't recall saying that. Care to quote such a reference?

Right here:

If I have to report to them which songs I use, chances are THERE IS A CATCH THAT DOES NOT INVOLVE ROYALTIES !!!!!

Thing is some folks don't realize they need to do that. As such, they run a chance of getting into trouble for it

Mixcloud is perfect for this. They're licensed to play copyrighted music, and you submit to them the list of songs you play so they can pay the appropriate royalties. A great service for music podcasters, and definitely not a scam.

At least they're not in the shoes of the service being sought after by the RIAA for not living up to their legal obligations with regards to royalty payments

No service is being sought after for that (except SWCast... the only service I know of which claimed to pay royalties and didn't)

 

[Jay Peninger]

Well as somebody who reports and pays my own fee's for multiple stations I will say their are less than accurate statements on both sides of this argument which is silly to begin with...

In the end the decision is yours to make on who you utilize to accomplish your end goal, just be sure you know enough about them so that you don't get caught up in a cluster like the folks who put their faith in SWCast...

I have to admit there was a time when I actually had thought about using SWCast and something said to me nope don't do it... I listened to myself and am glad I did now...

From everything I can find and read about these folks they seem legit, of course you need only check with ASCAP - RIAA - SoundExchange to see if indeed they are legit.

Do your homework and you have little to be scared about.

 

[helloagain]

So here we are several months later...what are the thoughts on MixCloud?

 

[doowopvault]

If I have to report to them which songs I use, chances are THERE IS A CATCH THAT DOES NOT INVOLVE ROYALTIES !!!!!

I could put the same music on a station which I launch on Live365 & the artist would still get paid. But if I have to report to these clowns, that's a completely different beast altogether that's screaming PLAGUE !!!!!

You go ahead & use them if you want. Meanwhile some of us more experienced netcasters who also podcast will stick to familiar turf

Cheers

Hate to tell you this, if you have a podcast or radio station, and you pay royalties, you still are expected to provide a playlist. All of the stations, terrestrial and internet do it, that's how they determine who get's paid. some of the artists I know personally haven't received a dime from the three gangsters.

 

[Captainfirst]

After careful research, as far as I can tell, Mixcloud is indeed paying all required royalties. From a technical standpoint, it's very cool to
be able to upload mixes at a bit rate of 320k and the process is pretty straight-forward. I have two hours from April up right now and will be
adding more tomorrow at: http://www.mixcloud.com/KevinJ1966/