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EXTRA STATIONS RECEIVED WITH EARLY 70'S BASIC CABLE

We first got cable in the early 70's. Those early systems only had about 13 channels.

Here's what I recall that we got in Columbus, Ga.
4 locals (ABC 9, CBS 3, PBS 28, NBC 38)
a static weather channel
a scrolling news channel
a local access (rarely used)
WTCG 17 and WHAE 46 independents from Atlanta

My grandmother was in nowhere land (Eastern Ky) I think she only
got 4 channels, but she only paid about $6 a month. This is the
hodgepodge lineup she got.
WYMT 57 Hazard NBC
KET Ky Educational
WBIR 10 Knoxville CBS
WLOS 13 Asheville ABC
 
In Battle Creek,MI it was:

Time/weather/local/UPI Newswire from Lansing
WKZO-TV (now WWMT) 3 CBS Kalamazoo-Grand Rapids
WUHQ-TV 41 ABC Battle Creek (they signed on in 7/1971 and today it is WOTV)
WJIM-TV 6 CBS Lansing (now WLNS-TV)
WOOD -TV 8 NBC Grand Rapids
WILX-TV 10 NBC Lansing (until 9/1972 it shared Channel 10 with WKAR-TV Michigan State U.'s PBS outlet when WKAR -Tv was WMSB-TV)
WTTW 11 PBS Chicago, this would be replaced by WGN-TV Channel 9 in 9/1974
WZZM-TV 13 ABC Grand Rapids
WKBD-TV 50 Detroit ,this was when TV 50 had I Love Lucy, Gilligan's Island, Star Trek and The Flintstones ,today nothing but crap talk shows and judge shows in the daytime.
WTVS 56 PBS Detroit (this would be dropped in 1979, to make way for HBO, and ESPN ,C-Span and USA were added sharing Channel 2 and CBN came at the end also sharing 2 and then sharing 13 with WZZM when ABC shows on WUHQ were duplicated).
 
gregg75 said:
My grandmother was in nowhere land (Eastern Ky) I think she only
got 4 channels, but she only paid about $6 a month. This is the
hodgepodge lineup she got.
WYMT 57 Hazard NBC
KET Ky Educational
WBIR 10 Knoxville CBS
WLOS 13 Asheville ABC

Actually, WYMT was WKYH back then. Today it's CBS back then it was NBC.
 
So right, I always get those confused. Not sure which one I like the best, they're both about
the same.

Bobby in Battle Creek sure was getting a hodgepodge of stations! There probably was one
show on about 5 of those stations.
 
In Manhattan, there was a channel (I forget the exact name) from Eastern Microwave that picked up independent stations from Buffalo and Boston.

Pre-CNN, you watch a print-out of the AP radio wire scroll past. And there was a weather forecast billboard.

Best of all were two public access channels, one of which carried an X-Rated sex and sex news show produced by Screw Magazine (Al Goldstein's mag) with commercials for massage parlors and escort services.
 
MattParker said:
In Manhattan, there was a channel (I forget the exact name) from Eastern Microwave that picked up independent stations from Buffalo and Boston.

Those two out-of-town signals in Manhattan were WUTV/29 Buffalo and WSBK-TV/38 Boston.

Before Syndex and the pesky Copyright Tribunal, our local cable franchise in Brockton, MA (Continental Cablevision) was carrying WOR-TV/9, WPIX/11 from New York, WTBS/17 Atlanta, WGN-TV/9 Chicago and CKSH/9 Sherbrooke, Quebec (for hockey fans in French). Plans were afoot to add the three Philadelphia BIG indies WPHL/17, WTAF-TV/29 and WKBS-TV/48. But when the CRT came along in '82, only WPIX and WTBS remained. Philly never made it to Continental in Brockton.
 
I don't have the stations & cities, but back in the mid-1960's (and even perhaps before that) the cable company that served Harlan & Loyal in southeastern Kentucky provided a number of stations for subscribers. I know they had a Lexington station because it was on the Reds TV Network and there was even a station from North Carolina. These were all picked up from antennas the company had on a nearby mountain.
 
IIRC, Bloomington IN had these on their 12-channel system, circa 1972:

2 - WTWO (NBC/ABC Terre Haute)
3 - Public access
4 - WTTV (Ind. Bloomington/Indianapolis)
5 - WTIU (PBS Bloomington Ch. 30)
6 - WFBM (NBC Indianapolis)
7 - Local weather
8 - WISH (CBS Indianapolis)
9 - WGN (Ind. Chicago)
10 - WTHI (CBS/ABC Terre Haute)
11 - WDRB (Ind. Louisville Ch. 41)
12 - WXIX (Ind. Cincinnati Ch. 19)
13 - WLWI (ABC Indianapolis)
 
Berkshire Cable (Great Barrington, MA) circa 1977

2- HBO
3- WFSB (3/CBS) Hartford
4- WHNB (30/NBC) New Britain/Hartford, WSBK-TV (38/Ind.) Boston, during sports games
5- WAST (13/CBS) Albany
6- WRGB (6/NBC) Schenectady
7- WTEN (10/ABC) Albany
8- WTHN (8/ABC) New Haven
9- WWLP (22/NBC) Springfield
10- WGBY (57/PBS) Springfield, WCBS (2/CBS) New York, overnights
11- WPIX (11/Ind.) New York
12- WOR (9/Ind.) New York
13- WNEW (5/Ind.) New York
 
Pikeville, KY in the mid 60's...

WSAZ 3 Huntington, WV
WCYB 5 Bristol, TN
WCHS 8 Charleston, WV
WJHL 11 Johnson City, TN
WHTN 13 Huntington, WV

IIRC...that was the full line-up
after sign-offs (remember them?)...all bets were off as to what would show up
 
Athens, GA:

Network affiliations are what they were then:

2 WSB Atlanta (NBC)
4 WFBC Greenville, SC (NBC) (station is now WYFF)
5 WAGA Atlanta (CBS)
6 WJBF Augusta, GA (ABC/NBC, later just ABC)
7 WSPA Spartanburg, SC (CBS)
8 WGTV Athens/Atlanta (PBS)
11 WXIA Atlanta (ABC)
12 WRDW Augusta (CBS)
13 WLOS Asheville, NC (ABC)
17 WTCG Atlanta (Ind., now WPCH)
46 WHAE Atlanta (Ind., now WGCL)

WATL Ch. 36 Atlanta was added in 1976.

Five of these stations have changed affiliations since:

WSB (NBC to ABC)
WAGA (CBS to Fox)
WXIA (ABC to NBC)
WATL (Ind. to Fox to CW to MyNet)
WGCL (Ind. to CBS)
 
Late 70s in suburban Rochester NY, the lineup included:

2 WGR Buffalo (NBC)
3 WSYR Syracuse (NBC)
4 WIVB Buffalo (CBS)
5 WTVH Syracuse (CBS)
6 CJOH Deseronto, Ont. (CTV)
7 WKBW Buffalo (ABC)
8 WROC Rochester (NBC)
9 WOR New York (Ind)
10 WHEC Rochester (CBS)
11 WPIX New York (Ind)
13 WOKR Rochester (ABC)
17 WTBS Atlanta (Ind)
21 WXXI Rochester (PBS)

By the time I got cable in 1980, the lineup also included CBLFT Toronto (25) and new sign-on WUHF Rochester (31, Ind.); before syndex and the CRT really killed things a few years later, we also had WNEW (briefly) and WSBK, and at one point CFMT from Toronto replaced CBLFT. Oddly, we never had CBC in English on the system - perhaps OTA pickup of CHEX 12 from Peterborough or CBLT 5 from Toronto just wasn't ever reliable enough.

And we didn't get WGN until much, much later.
 
1970s, Lehigh Valley (Allentown) PA:

WCBS 2, New York City (CBS)
KYW 3, Philadelphia (NBC)
WTAF 29, Philadelphia (Indy)
WNEW 5, NYC, (Indy)
WPVI 6, Philadelphia (ABC)
WNEP, 16, Wilkes Barre (ABC)
WLVT 39, Allentown (PBS)
WOR 9, NYC, (Indy)
WCAU 10, Philadelphia, (CBS)
WPIX 11, NYC, (Indy)
WPHL 17, Philadelphia (Indy)
WKBS 48, Philadelphia (Indy)

When WFMZ 69 Allentown (Indy) signed on, we lost WNEP.
 
Seems odd to me that the Allentown system
didn't carry 4 or 7 from New York, 10 from
Philadelphia, or 22 and 28 from Scranton/
Wilkes-Barre. But with all those indies I
suppose you didn't need any more network
stations.
 
Decatur, Alabama is situated in the midst of not one, not two, but three TV markets. Hence, we got quite a choice. As I recall from the TeleCable franchise system:

(2) unknown (became HBO circa 1977)
(3) WMSL-TV (now WAFF), ch. 48, ABC (now NBC), Huntsville
(4) WSM-TV (now WSMV), ch. 4, NBC, Nashville
(5) WLAC-TV (now WTVF), ch. 5, CBS, Nashville
(6) WBRC-TV, ch. 6, ABC (now FOX), Birmingham
(7) unknown (became WTCG, ch. 17, Atlanta, circa 1976)
(8) WSIX-TV (now WKRN), ch. 8 (later ch. 2), ABC, Nashville
(9) WAAY-TV, ch. 31, NBC (now ABC), Huntsville
(10) WHNT-TV, ch. 19, CBS, Huntsville
(11) Decatur City Schools in-school programming during school day; rotary weather displays at other times
(12) WHIQ-TV, ch. 25, PBS (Alabama Public Television translator), Huntsville
(13) WAPI-TV (now WVTM), ch. 13, NBC, Birmingham

Of course, all that remains on the successor system (Charter) are the Huntsville network affils, but it is highly interesting to note that none of the channel positions have moved on any of them from that day since. Cable companies are (or were) highly reluctant to relocate the OTA stations, fearing a customer backlash.

One will notice that we received three stations apiece of ABC and NBC and two for CBS. The only thing missing was Birmingham's CBS affil, the weak-signaled UHF WBMG (now WIAT), on channel 42. However, I remember reading that nearby Hartselle, Alabama, some 15 miles to our south, carried it on its cable system, perhaps from a relay somewhere in Cullman or Blount counties (read your Alabama maps). TeleCable probably just didn't bother, since there were already two CBS channels (WLAC and WHNT).

I have no idea how the Nashville stations got there, as Nashville is a good 100 miles due north, well out of range for direct reception. I suspect relays were the solution there, probably located somewhere in southern Middle Tennessee, where the signals were microwaved to Decatur, Athens, Huntsville, and maybe Florence/the Shoals area (Huntsville even had at least one Chattanooga station on its lineup in the early 1970s). My father, a huge country music fan, in particular enjoyed WSM and the early morning Ralph Emery show.

Since WTCG was already penetrating much of Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina, and Tennessee via microwave relays, I suspect it came to Decatur some months before the satellite launch in late 1976.

I suspect there has been a post or thread about this before, but does anyone remember the old rotary mirror-camera machines that produced a black-and-white rotating display of weather instruments? I'm sure that was a fixture of smaller (and perhaps bigger) cable systems prior to the Weather Channel's 1982 debut (and the availability of local radar, on some systems). My father was good friends with the manager of TeleCable and once took me to the office to have him show me the equipment, and I recall being fascinated beyond belief at the device. At that time, those mirrors had to be the smallest video cameras that were available anywhere.
 
In Niagara Falls, NY (Buffalo area) Late 70's:

2 WGR Ch 2 Buffalo (NBC)
3 CKGN Ch. 22 (Global) Toronto (later became local access).
4 WBEN/WIVB Ch. 4 Buffalo (CBS)
5 HBO (if you subscribed)
6 CBLT Ch. 5 Toronto (CBC)
7 WKBW CH. 7 Buffalo (ABC)
8 WNED Ch. 17 Buffalo (PBS)
9 CFTO Ch. 9 Toronto (CTV)
10 WOR Ch. 9 NYC/NJ (Ind)
11 CHCH Ch. 11 Hamilton, Ont (Ind.)
12 WPIX Ch. 11 NYC (Ind.)
13 WUTV Ch. 29 (Ind.)

All the broadcast signals (minus WOR and WPIX) could be easily received in the area with a modest antenna, so cable here was not a big draw until HBO came along.

Many folks also had a supplemental UHF antenna for TVOntario Ch. 19 Toronto, and CITY TV Ch. 57 Toronto (Ind.) (on a clear night).
 
Scott Fybush said:
Late 70s in suburban Rochester NY, the lineup included:

2 WGR Buffalo (NBC)
3 WSYR Syracuse (NBC)
4 WIVB Buffalo (CBS)
5 WTVH Syracuse (CBS)
6 CJOH Deseronto, Ont. (CTV)
7 WKBW Buffalo (ABC)
8 WROC Rochester (NBC)
9 WOR New York (Ind)
10 WHEC Rochester (CBS)
11 WPIX New York (Ind)
13 WOKR Rochester (ABC)
17 WTBS Atlanta (Ind)
21 WXXI Rochester (PBS)

By the time I got cable in 1980, the lineup also included CBLFT Toronto (25) and new sign-on WUHF Rochester (31, Ind.); before syndex and the CRT really killed things a few years later, we also had WNEW (briefly) and WSBK, and at one point CFMT from Toronto replaced CBLFT. Oddly, we never had CBC in English on the system - perhaps OTA pickup of CHEX 12 from Peterborough or CBLT 5 from Toronto just wasn't ever reliable enough.

And we didn't get WGN until much, much later.

I was a teenager in the southeastern suburbs in the late 70s and, if I recall correctly, WTVH wasn't included in the service (odd because they had a pretty good over the air signal into the area). Also, CJOH wasn't full-time then. The cable company provided selected programming on cable channel 6 from CJOH and from the indy (29) in Buffalo. Didn't we also have the MSG channel around then, too
 
BobbyNBC10 said:
In Battle Creek,MI it was:

Time/weather/local/UPI Newswire from Lansing
WKZO-TV (now WWMT) 3 CBS Kalamazoo-Grand Rapids
WUHQ-TV 41 ABC Battle Creek (they signed on in 7/1971 and today it is WOTV)
WJIM-TV 6 CBS Lansing (now WLNS-TV)
WOOD -TV 8 NBC Grand Rapids
WILX-TV 10 NBC Lansing (until 9/1972 it shared Channel 10 with WKAR-TV Michigan State U.'s PBS outlet when WKAR -Tv was WMSB-TV)
WTTW 11 PBS Chicago, this would be replaced by WGN-TV Channel 9 in 9/1974
WZZM-TV 13 ABC Grand Rapids
WKBD-TV 50 Detroit ,this was when TV 50 had I Love Lucy, Gilligan's Island, Star Trek and The Flintstones ,today nothing but crap talk shows and judge shows in the daytime.
WTVS 56 PBS Detroit (this would be dropped in 1979, to make way for HBO, and ESPN ,C-Span and USA were added sharing Channel 2 and CBN came at the end also sharing 2 and then sharing 13 with WZZM when ABC shows on WUHQ were duplicated).

WKAR-TV returned on 23 in 1972, and Grand Valley University in Grand Rapids got it's own PB station by CHristmas '72, WGVU-TV 35 . It would not be added to cable until the same time as WGN in 1974.
 
Obtuse1 said:
Many folks also had a supplemental UHF antenna for TVOntario Ch. 19 Toronto, and CITY TV Ch. 57 Toronto (Ind.) (on a clear night).

I can only imagine, considering what CITY showed late at night in those days.
 
Charlotte NC, "Cablevision" during most of the 70s:

2 WBTV/3 CBS Charlotte
3 local info channel
4 WSOC/9 NBC (switched to ABC) Charlotte
5 WTVI/42 PBS Charlotte
6 WDCA/20 Ind. Washington
7 WSPA/7 CBS Spartanburg
8 WTTG/5 Ind. Washington, switched to WTBS after WRET went to NBC.
9 leased/infomercials
10 WIS/10 NBC Columbia
11 WCCB/18 Charlotte, was ABC, became ind.
12 WRET/36 Charlotte was IND, became NBC
13 WUNG/58 Concord/Charlotte PBS

Raleigh NC "Cablevision' during most of the 70s:

2 WFMY/2 Greensboro CBS
3 WRAL/5 Raleigh ABC
4 WUNC/4 Chapel Hill PBS
5 music
6 WTTG/5 Washington Ind.
7 WITN/7 Washington NC NBC
8 WGHP/8 High Point ABC
9 WTVD/11 Durham CBS
10 WRET/36 Charlotte Ind. Became WTBS after WRET switched to NBC
11 blank
12 WRDU/28 Durham NBC
13 local info board/weather
 
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