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Fall Out Boy - "My Songs Know What You Did In The Dark"

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awp69

What does everyone think of Fall Out Boy's new track? Maybe it'll grow on me but, wow, what a far cry from their early material. Especially the chorus, which Rolling Stone came pretty close when they compared the chorus to something that KISS may have done. Guess that follows their "Save Rock and Roll" album title.

I used to like the old, yes, "emo" style of FOB's older material. This may be sort of a shot at all of the more jangly, crunchy alternative of late (Mumford & Sons, Gotye, Of Monsters & Men). I know some don't like that direction either, but IMO that jangly rock actually harkens back to some of the old alternative days of groups like R.E.M., the Dave Matthews Band and even 10,000 Maniacs (yes, that was alternative in the late '80s).

Still not sure what to think of this single. I'll say it still belongs on alternative, but will be curious to as to whether the rest of the album has a more classic rock/metalish feel to it.
 
I don't like it at all. It's a demo that didn't make it to "From Under the Cork Tree", IIRC, so maybe the rest of the album will be better.
 
Fall Out Boy is one of the worst bands in the history of music. And, do not ever put DMB in the same sentence as R.E.M. or 10,000 Maniacs!
 
^ Agree with this. Save for a couple of songs, I've always found DMB to be one of the most annoying acts on Alternative radio. I'm not sure why they're as popular as they are, but that's just my opinion.
 
radiorenegade said:
  Fall Out Boy is one of the worst bands in the history of music.   And, do not ever put DMB in the same sentence as R.E.M. or 10,000 Maniacs!
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Not sure if FOB is one of the worst bands....I could surely think of plenty of others. I just think they've been on a downhill slide since their debut. It's strange to see their new single even being picked up by some CHRs.

But as for DMB, you're probably right. I don't mind them and they were huge in the South, but they aren't one of my favorites.That said, I'd take them ANY day over grunge (which admittedly I once liked but now pretty much despise) when it comes to 90s music. I was just mentioning them as far as being in that at least slightly more folksy genre. R.E.M. certainly is -- or at least was -- one of alternative's all-time great bands and 10,000 Maniacs were one of my favorites back in my college days until Natalie Merchant went out on her own.
 
awp69 said:
It's strange to see their new single even being picked up by some CHRs.
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I think it's being played on most CHRs, just not above medium rotation - it's in the ITunes Top 10, so it'd be hard for CHR to ignore it

Personally, I think the song's a mess, and sounds like 5 different songs forced together, but apparently I'm in the minority
 
I'm getting a kick out of the sentiment regarding grunge, or as I regard it, "mainstream rock's successful alternative disguise".

Don't get me wrong - Nirvana were a good band (even a good alternative - by its original meaning - band.) But the moment they hit, every two-bit hair-metal band put down their cans of Final Net and picked up flannel shirts at K-Mart. Didn't stop them putting those wailing guitar leads on the records.

Don't get me started on Dave Matthews, though - one day he'll clear his sinuses and he'll be out of a career.
 
hubcity said:
even a good alternative - by its original meaning
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Alternative existed prior to grunge -- take stations like WHFS back in the 80s and early 90s. It wasn't grunge that made it "alternative". It was just a collection of bands that didn't fit the mainstream....everything from punk to folk rock to reggae to emo rock. It was music that was different.

I agree though that grunge was really just a twist on metal. Thrashing guitar rock with usually a dark "grungy" tone in the lyrics. And since it took off like wildfire, it's just another reason why I can't stand it anymore. Nirvana and Pearl Jam were no doubt talented for what they were, but it's washed out and belongs on active rock stations these days IMO. And even then, in small doses.
 
Oh yah, I know alternative existed prior to grunge; that was kind of my point. In fact, not only did I work at a station that was the NJ cousin to 'HFS (WHTG-FM106.3) from 1985 to 1992, my PD there in '91-92 was former 'HFS-er Mike Butcher.

Before Nirvana, "alternative" was made up of a constellation of varying styles, including everything from Depeche Mode to Big Black. Afterward, it was by and large made up of people trying to sound like Nirvana. Nirvana remains the dividing line between the two "alternatives". (I prefer the earlier one, and when playing new tracks, try to hew closer to that definition.)
 
hubcity said:
Oh yah, I know alternative existed prior to grunge; that was kind of my point. In fact, not only did I work at a station that was the NJ cousin to 'HFS (WHTG-FM106.3) from 1985 to 1992, my PD there in '91-92 was former 'HFS-er Mike Butcher.

Before Nirvana, "alternative" was made up of a constellation of varying styles, including everything from Depeche Mode to Big Black. Afterward, it was by and large made up of people trying to sound like Nirvana. Nirvana remains the dividing line between the two "alternatives". (I prefer the earlier one, and when playing new tracks, try to hew closer to that definition.)
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I prefer the earlier one as well. And am at least glad to see that, even though there may be some more CHR crossover, many alternative stations are at least veering away from blending in active rock (which again, I feel is a better place for grunge) a bit more and playing things that would fit more within that earlier mold.
 
The fear though is an Alternative station playing a small list of songs in rotation when you are taking out so many sub genres of music such as grunge. I would never dare make the argument that Metallica has a place on Alternative radio but I do think Alice in Chains, Nirvana, Oleander, and even Peal Jam, have a place on Alternative.

As much as we all would like to see it, most alternative stations are not going to go down the strictly indie road so there must be some popular rock oriented music mixed in.

I think the problem is the lack of deeper cuts. Alice in Chains had some amazing tracks that have been covered up by the Rooster and modern singles from the band.
 
acheron82 said:
The fear though is an Alternative station playing a small list of songs in rotation when you are taking out so many sub genres of music such as grunge. I would never dare make the argument that Metallica has a place on Alternative radio but I do think Alice in Chains, Nirvana, Oleander, and even Peal Jam, have a place on Alternative.

As much as we all would like to see it, most alternative stations are not going to go down the strictly indie road so there must be some popular rock oriented music mixed in.

I think the problem is the lack of deeper cuts. Alice in Chains had some amazing tracks that have been covered up by the Rooster and modern singles from the band.
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I don't think grunge should necessarily be taken out completely, but there's a lot of alternative from the '80s and '90s that is largely ignored by today's alternative stations. Even relatively well known bands like The Pixies and The Smiths are hard to find on today's stations. I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that active rock infiltrated the alternative playlists in the 2000s, up until the last year or two when alternative started making a comeback as far as content to fill out playlists.

There's plenty of older gold tracks that are not grunge that would actually sound better against today's crop of alternative artists. So I just feel grunge still permeates the playlists of many alt stations more than it needs to.
 
I came up during the grunge era, so it's always got a place in my heart. But the same songs that were beaten to death in the 90s are still doing the same thing today. If you listen to Sirius/XM Lithium, my god there are only 2 or 3 Alice In Chains songs they bother to play. Same for Soundgarden, Bush, Pumpkins, etc. These bands had pretty deep catalogs and it's a shame nobody wants to play them.
 
Alternative feeds on the bulk of new bands being broken at the time - the format isn't playing a lot of grunge because there aren't a lot of new grunge bands out there, and there are hundreds of Indie/folkish bands
 
hubcity said:
I'm getting a kick out of the sentiment regarding grunge, or as I regard it, "mainstream rock's successful alternative disguise".

Don't get me wrong - Nirvana were a good band (even a good alternative - by its original meaning - band.) But the moment they hit, every two-bit hair-metal band put down their cans of Final Net and picked up flannel shirts at K-Mart. Didn't stop them putting those wailing guitar leads on the records.

Don't get me started on Dave Matthews, though - one day he'll clear his sinuses and he'll be out of a career.
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I agree. I recall in 1994 a guy with real short hair approached the barmaid at a tavern I was in. He was bald. She remarked,"wow you shaved your head. The dude informed her he was in an alternative band now, and no longer playing metal. I angrily swigged my pint, threw down $2 and stormed out of the bar in disgust.
 
radiorenegade said:
I agree. I recall in 1994 a guy with real short hair approached the barmaid at a tavern I was in. He was bald. She remarked,"wow you shaved your head. The dude informed her he was in an alternative band now, and no longer playing metal. I angrily swigged my pint, threw down $2 and stormed out of the bar in disgust.
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:D

And in 2013 you'd be hard pressed to find someone starting a guitar-based group. A person such as that is playing the fiddle in some folk-sounding band. And the beat goes on lol.
 
Saladressing said:
And in 2013 you'd be hard pressed to find someone starting a guitar-based group.
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What? ??? Do you mean an electric guitar with distortion-based group?

Every generation has a different musical style, across almost every current format except for Country - kids aren't gonna start up a band that sounds like a band their parents listen to
 
atlantaboy said:
Saladressing said:
And in 2013 you'd be hard pressed to find someone starting a guitar-based group.
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What? ??? Do you mean an electric guitar with distortion-based group?

Every generation has a different musical style, across almost every current format except for Country - kids aren't gonna start up a band that sounds like a band their parents listen to
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I thiink the same could be said for Country as well. Today's country is way more pop than that of the country of the '50s and '60s.
 
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