with all the old school dj's on kzok lately it got me thinking- if you could build youir own fantasy radio station what would be your format and who would you have for dj's ??
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Ok, I'll bite:
It might grow tiresome kind of quick but bring back some top-40 radio, run in the old boss-jock format. White guys doing funk and jive. It was great stuff.
Staff it with people like: (and yes I know some of these guys are dead, but stay with me)
Lan Roberts
Robert Theodore Simon
Burl Baer
Tracy Mitchell
Kevin o' Brien (no, I'm not kidding)
Dick Curtis
Robert O' Smith
Larry LuJack
Jerry Kaye
Fast Lane Phillips
John Maynard (He would have midnight to 6am..he always did)
Terry Rose
Gary Crow before his voice changed
and yes....even Pat O' Day..
oh, and Greg Hersholt doing 20/20 news..Paul Brendell in the helicopter..
ok, I'll stop..
The only problem with the idea is what would one consider to be "Top-40" music now days, or do we just go back to about 1965 and play 45's..
It might grow tiresome kind of quick but bring back some top-40 radio, run in the old boss-jock format. White guys doing funk and jive. It was great stuff.
Staff it with people like: (and yes I know some of these guys are dead, but stay with me)
Lan Roberts
Robert Theodore Simon
Burl Baer
Tracy Mitchell
Kevin o' Brien (no, I'm not kidding)
Dick Curtis
Robert O' Smith
Larry LuJack
Jerry Kaye
Fast Lane Phillips
John Maynard (He would have midnight to 6am..he always did)
Terry Rose
Gary Crow before his voice changed
and yes....even Pat O' Day..
oh, and Greg Hersholt doing 20/20 news..Paul Brendell in the helicopter..
ok, I'll stop..
The only problem with the idea is what would one consider to be "Top-40" music now days, or do we just go back to about 1965 and play 45's..
Wonderfulwino said:
I simply CANNOT imagine John Maynard playing Lady Gaga and 3OH!3. Brendel would crash the copter. Lujack would become a monk, O'Day would regret radio.....
I could see those guys on a KXRX-like station though, where THEY had control over their shows and/or parts thereof....
Remember...we're talking "fantasy...Not as it would apply today. 
Wonderfulwino said:
I love this idea, although here's how I would do it: As for a format and music, I would go for a Jack-FM style station and music but with this caveat: all the music would mainly be from the mid 50's to around 1993 or 1994, basically oldies/Classic Hits, actually this would be perfect for KMCQ.
Like some of the old style top 40 stations in their later years a la KJR I would play some post 1993 songs, but nothing Rap, mostly the current post 93 music would be AC or Country or current songs by older artists a la Chicago/Boston, etc.
I still have my idea, of having Seattle Streaming Radio and Entercom, working out a deal, so SSR could LMA the 103.3 translator and bring it over to Bremerton (while being as close to downtown Seattle as possible, but have it fall under KBRO-AM's signal contour, to let it be an FM translator for an AM station, per FCC rules. Then change the station to a Jack FM-type format, but with a wider playlist from the late 50s-today's popular hits, but like what Wonderfulwino said... "No rap". I wouldn't mind Junior/Senior playing right after Styx though, and even some "deep cuts") with the Armed Forces Radio Network dropping updates in on the top of the hour, and Kitsap County + some Downtown Seattle advertisers during breaks. I'd like to be a PD of the station of course, and DJs would be local that were from the Kitsap area (Maybe a couple announcers from WestSound TV as well), except maybe a couple big Seattle names. Maybe even have Delilah sub at times as a guest DJ. The station would probably have some reach into Downtown Seattle and West Seattle as well, looking at the possible signal controur. Speaking of transmitter sites for the FM translator, that old CenCom tower and building just before the Warren Ave. bridge on the West Bremerton side looks like a good place to place a low power Shively on, and use the old CenCom 911 building as studios. I think the Pros for this would be: Entercom & SSR get another revenue stream, as well as the DJs involved. Cons: KMTT could lose some listeners in downtown Seattle, but on the other hand, radios are alot more powerful these days, and I don't know if their 103.3 translator is doing them any help. Just my thoughts!
I've thought about this very topic a few times.
Format: Do AOR formats even exist anymore? Basically KZOK with some KJAQ and some KISW/KNDD. Be willing to play some deeper cuts and songs that fell through the cracks. Have various specialty shows (blues hour, Metal Shop, etc.) Allow jocks to do some of their own programming. Play a little harder stuff at night.
Jocks:
Crow & West (for more than 4 days)
Robin & Maynard (for more than 1 reunion show)
Steve Slaton
Scott Vanderpool
Beau Roberts
Cathy Faulkner
Bill Reid
Dan Wilke
Turn them loose and let them have fun. Have fun imaging ala KXRX and Terry McManus (I think). I guess I basically would have The X back in Seattle (ironically playing a lot of same music played then). Ah to be 41 years old and nostalgic for '80s and '90s Seattle radio.
Format: Do AOR formats even exist anymore? Basically KZOK with some KJAQ and some KISW/KNDD. Be willing to play some deeper cuts and songs that fell through the cracks. Have various specialty shows (blues hour, Metal Shop, etc.) Allow jocks to do some of their own programming. Play a little harder stuff at night.
Jocks:
Crow & West (for more than 4 days)
Robin & Maynard (for more than 1 reunion show)
Steve Slaton
Scott Vanderpool
Beau Roberts
Cathy Faulkner
Bill Reid
Dan Wilke
Turn them loose and let them have fun. Have fun imaging ala KXRX and Terry McManus (I think). I guess I basically would have The X back in Seattle (ironically playing a lot of same music played then). Ah to be 41 years old and nostalgic for '80s and '90s Seattle radio.
placebo1969 said:
Hey don't forget Marty Riemer I certainly would want him in the mix...
you all covered the rocker stuff pretty good, with all the veteran "on airs" that have slaved away for years in this market.
what about country radio? sorry, but there aint much good out there, or ever has been in this market. this may also have to do with the fact that the countrypolitan corporates dont leave much room or time for individual personality on the air, other than the contrived laugher morning show jive. sure ichabod was a fav of many in this market for many years, but that short boring and predictable corporate dog leash............
somewhere back in the early 80's, on the KMPS all night shift, i took a liking to janet wilson, a great air personality, who may be known to some from her KJR work, and several other stations, and still works in seattle reading traffic reports. back then, she was nice enough to learn me up on the KMPS guidlines about on air personality, and how management were trying to tone her down into a boring, quick cookie cutter card reader, and how she could even no longer play one personal song pick per shift. so i'd pick her..............
KRPM's lia knight, done all right in my book as well, and was even nice enough to put on a new single from a british columbia country artist, from my own music library, on the "K106 new music challenge" back in the early 90's.
otherwise, sorry guys, i'd hire all out of town, or fresh new country air talent on this fantasy station. what a lame country market we have out here, and thats not even counting the music.......
what about country radio? sorry, but there aint much good out there, or ever has been in this market. this may also have to do with the fact that the countrypolitan corporates dont leave much room or time for individual personality on the air, other than the contrived laugher morning show jive. sure ichabod was a fav of many in this market for many years, but that short boring and predictable corporate dog leash............
somewhere back in the early 80's, on the KMPS all night shift, i took a liking to janet wilson, a great air personality, who may be known to some from her KJR work, and several other stations, and still works in seattle reading traffic reports. back then, she was nice enough to learn me up on the KMPS guidlines about on air personality, and how management were trying to tone her down into a boring, quick cookie cutter card reader, and how she could even no longer play one personal song pick per shift. so i'd pick her..............
KRPM's lia knight, done all right in my book as well, and was even nice enough to put on a new single from a british columbia country artist, from my own music library, on the "K106 new music challenge" back in the early 90's.
otherwise, sorry guys, i'd hire all out of town, or fresh new country air talent on this fantasy station. what a lame country market we have out here, and thats not even counting the music.......
Country Radio..? The one name in Seattle radio that sticks is Buck Ritchie. He was mornings on KAYO 1150 longer than Bob Hardwick was on KVI. He presented his show as a hillbilly kind of rambling with a half dozen of the same country AND western tunes of the day thrown in during the hour. He had a hardcore following. 60's country radio in Seattle was pretty much KAYO and nothing else. When country started rockin' it a bit, KAYO sort of dissolved and made way for KMPS and others..
scott salvatori said:
Scott I am no country fan by any stretch of the imagination I can handle it in short controlled bursts as long as I am sure it will be going away soon... That being said I have to agree with you 100% about the country offerings in this market. They all are industry driven long play infomercials for the Nashville music machine. I am not sure when it happened out here if it was the Young Country incarnation of KXRX back in the day but someplace along the line country radio turned its back on its musical roots and never looked back.
I understand the new music is what sells CD's, Concert Tickets, and what makes the young folks consumers, but I would think that somebody would at least put together some sort of Classic Country programming that would appeal to the life long country music fans.
right you are wino, to bring up KAYO legend, buck ritchie......... KAYO, had their studio, and antenna, right off hwy 167, as i recall, but scott was just was too young to be interested in country radio pre 79, my loss.
some good info on buck ritchie at:
airchexx.com/.../buck-ritchie-onkayo-country-ko-1150-seattle-sometime-1964/
seattle country radio presentation after the 70's, turned hard core sophisticated, with the new rush of $$ and out of stater influx. the writing was on the wall for KAYO, and the personality, hillbilly country stuff......the slick presentations of KMPS was the new corporate model that took over, along with the tight rotations of kenny rogers, and anne murray music. most people dont know, or have long forgotten that willie nelson, loretta lynn, buck owens, bonnie guitar, and several others, planted down some major country music roots, here in the northwest, many decades ago, and had real country radio stations like KAYO, promote their music, and talents. those artists, many of whom still living, and recording, are long gone, forgotten, and never to be heard from again on todays seattle country corporates.
seattle country FM: "industry driven long play infomercials for the nashville music machine": RIGHT YOU ARE!
some good info on buck ritchie at:
airchexx.com/.../buck-ritchie-onkayo-country-ko-1150-seattle-sometime-1964/
seattle country radio presentation after the 70's, turned hard core sophisticated, with the new rush of $$ and out of stater influx. the writing was on the wall for KAYO, and the personality, hillbilly country stuff......the slick presentations of KMPS was the new corporate model that took over, along with the tight rotations of kenny rogers, and anne murray music. most people dont know, or have long forgotten that willie nelson, loretta lynn, buck owens, bonnie guitar, and several others, planted down some major country music roots, here in the northwest, many decades ago, and had real country radio stations like KAYO, promote their music, and talents. those artists, many of whom still living, and recording, are long gone, forgotten, and never to be heard from again on todays seattle country corporates.
seattle country FM: "industry driven long play infomercials for the nashville music machine": RIGHT YOU ARE!
TheX-KXRX said:
Actually, the "Young Country" thing was going on a few years before it hit Seattle. KMPS was pretty traditional up to that point, some new, a lot of old. When Young Country did arrive, KMPS pretty much dug in it's heels, not changing for some whippersnapper and it's Shania Twain/Def Leppard remixes. But that wasn't what changed country music either. What DID change it was The Garth.
When Garthmania was peaking in the '90s (Mr. Cyrus would wreak his pretty little vengeance on the world some 15 years later), it was the answer to the Nashville Machine's biggest dream, to have somebody so huge and almost mythical, he cannot be ignored. Deals were made, formulas (including Young Country) created. The only requirement was for country to offer up it's out-of-the-mainstream innocence. Oh, and get rid of these old guys too.
Even Garth himself saw the damage he inadvertently caused and quickly imploded with one of the most bizarre albums in history (that Chris Gaines album. Fun fact: KWJZ had "Lost In You" on it's playlist in 1999, credited not to Garth Brooks, but Chris Gaines) and pretty much retired after that.
But it was too late. Today, I'm amazed at some of what passes for country music today. Like that old song goes, I don't think Hank (Sr.) would have done it this way.......
Today, country is classic rock with banjos, flat out AC-radio friendly ballads straight out of the England Dan/John Ford Coley textbook. Yeah, that's nice, but it would really be nice to hear country music sound like country music again.....
scott salvatori said:
2939 4th ave. S. ... two doors North of Andy's. Now a transmission shop. tower behind the building ... with the call letters on the tower in red neon letters. the same building was originally KRSC ... where 98.1 FM and Channel 5 TV launched. DorothyB bought both and combined with KING-AM to start the empire.
Crow, West, Lagan, Slaton, Robin, Maynard and a few others I'm sure I have missed.
The format would cover blues, blues based rock, classic rock with these dj's adding some of their knowledge (especially Slaton) to the origins of a lot of this music. Think of the great stuff by Zeppelin and Thorogood. That stuff has some great roots and I think that should be explored. Also open up the genre by including good new stuff. No talentless rap or pop.
The format would cover blues, blues based rock, classic rock with these dj's adding some of their knowledge (especially Slaton) to the origins of a lot of this music. Think of the great stuff by Zeppelin and Thorogood. That stuff has some great roots and I think that should be explored. Also open up the genre by including good new stuff. No talentless rap or pop.
I remember Danny Holiday's KQUL back in 1988-89 and in spite of KQUL killing off my beloved KJET, Danny definitely had the right idea when it came to pre-1965 oldies (just the wrong frequency ) when he programmed it.
KZOK quickly dampened the party at KQUL by flipping it to bird crap oldies "Kool Gold". And that's what killed KQUL. Which became Z-Rock a few months later.
KVI should consider bringing back "The Rock N' Roll Time Machine" and Danny Holiday back to 570 kHz
) when he programmed it.KZOK quickly dampened the party at KQUL by flipping it to bird crap oldies "Kool Gold". And that's what killed KQUL. Which became Z-Rock a few months later.
KVI should consider bringing back "The Rock N' Roll Time Machine" and Danny Holiday back to 570 kHz
LITTLEBOYBLUE said:
LOL, now it is The Seattle police guild. KAYO was promoting CB radio back in the day, 1150 AM, made for fun AM radio
TheX-KXRX said:
KXRX had state of the art automation for it's time, And a great place to party! Jocks would lay down 20 minutes of voice tracks then it was party time! It had carousel like oval track for the carts that took up an entire rack (just for one) but I think he had at least 2, station had a great sound, studio was downtown.
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