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How many Rap/Hip Hop/R&B stations will promote this....NONE
How much of the Rap/Hip Hop/R&B audiance will embrace the performers....NONE
How many Rap/Hip Hop/R&B performers will appear and lend a hand....NONE
How much of the Rap/Hip Hop/R&B element will benefit from this....PLENTY
Would the Rock audiance embrace third world concerts and performers....YOU BET
When Public Enemy teamed with Anthrax and Aerosmith teamed with Run DMC, who made up the audiance, Rappers or Rockers, you all know the answer... Rockers. Bottom line is, Rock is all about the music, not personalities.
 
Same here, I *TRIED* to think of a reply as [EDIT]as him.. but I just couldn't..

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Rock/Klassik does have a point. You don't see any of these rap artists stepping up to the plate to help out charities, folks in need, etc. They're too busy over at Hot 97 in Noo Yawk shooting at each other.

The original Farm Aid and Live Aid featured no gangsta rap crap or hip hop slop artists. Yet, everyone seems to worship these worthless minions, like Lil Kim, 50 Cent, Biggie Smalls, etc, etc.
 
man, come on people at radio-info!!!! ban rockintern!!! we don't need this stuff on this board!!!!
 
Well.....Actually....I hate to say this......but.........RockIntern's posts do speak the truth and are valid.......Think about it. Do they belong here??.........again...yes, they are radio/TV/music related. I do agree with others though, RockIntern seems to 'dwell on' or is really 'bugged' by this topic.
 
The original Live Aid was before the exposion of Hip-Hop. There were R&B acts at Live Aid. Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson, Smokey Robinson and Lionel Richie all performed with USA for Africa.
 
If you want to even pretend to have an ounce of credibility you can't always refer to it as 'rap-crap' or 'hip hop slop' or whatever other derogatory terms you want to use. If you want to make a point that it's a shame that more rap acts don't support these events, that's fine. But how can any of us take your comments as anything other than another cheap shot at a form of music (and people) you don't like?
 
Dancerev889 said:
The original Live Aid was before the exposion of Hip-Hop. There were R&B acts at Live Aid. Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson, Smokey Robinson and Lionel Richie all performed with USA for Africa.
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R-U-4-Real, don't you get it, that is exactly what Klassic is saying, these acts appeared because it was a Black event. If it were for a disaster in, lets say, England, Germany, France, Poland, Italy, etc,. would any Black acts perform to help these countries???? Balls in your court.
 
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, at least someone gets it!!! That is the point I have been trying to get through, but they just don't get it. I offered a chance for these complainers to meet me and discuss this in person, through the messeage system here, but no one had the guts to respond to me. Its easy to spew false venom behind a keyboard, in person, not so easy.
 
I call it "rap crap" and "hip hop slop" because that's what it is...crap and slop...total garbage. It has nothing to do with race, credibility, etc. People who are rap/hip hop fans always have to play the Race Card when responding to someone who doesn't like that music. They always think it's beacuse that person is "racist." I don't like that format of music. Get over it. I'm perfectly content with listening to music where the artists actually speak English clearly, and not ghetto Ebonics.
 
so are you say african americans only do charity when it affects their people? Give me a break. Everyone was doing their part during 9/11, katrina and the tsumani. Do you actually think Neil Young called 50 Cent and said yo 50 wanna do Farm AID? I highly doubt it. Ask the people that put that show together why they didnt ask anyone of color to do it.
 
That's an interesting thought, and probably the crowd that would attend farm aid may not be into hearing 50 cents, Missy Elliot, Jay Z etc. they are urban oriented, but what about possibly Nelly who did record with Tim McGraw, or veteran group or artist , Like the O'Jays for the veteran audience. Just for a change of pace the Farm aid audience can relate with.
 
Shawn O'Domski said:
I call it "rap crap" and "hip hop slop" because that's what it is...crap and slop...total garbage. It has nothing to do with race, credibility, etc. People who are rap/hip hop fans always have to play the Race Card when responding to someone who doesn't like that music. They always think it's beacuse that person is "racist." I don't like that format of music. Get over it. I'm perfectly content with listening to music where the artists actually speak English clearly, and not ghetto Ebonics.
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Oh so all white artists speak english clearly. I havent been able to figure out what Bob Dylan has been saying in years. But I forgot he isnt from the ghetto so thats ok. Southern draw is speaking clearly too, well if you have a few hours to kill before they spit out what they are trying to say.
 
apco25 said:
That's an interesting thought, and probably the crowd that would attend farm aid may not be into hearing 50 cents, Missy Elliot, Jay Z etc. they are urban oriented, but what about possibly Nelly who did record with Tim McGraw, or veteran group or artist , Like the O'Jays for the veteran audience. Just for a change of pace the Farm aid audience can relate with.
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The big question again was anyone even asked to perform? Everyone looks at the finished product but how about the promoters behind the scenes.
 
Let's face it, rap and farming just don't mix. The problem as far as getting black artist to perform in farm aid, is there's very little real r&B out there. Or it's been that way for awhile. But I can't not see not asking Stevie Wonder, or Earth , Wind & Fire to perform. I think a few R&B acts (as long as it's not rap) should've been asked.
 
I do feel the rap/hip hop artists should be asked to perform at this Farm Aid event. But the problem is that they won't do it, because the event doesn't target the [EDIT]. They should be involved in the event, because if it wasn't for farmers, we wouldn't get most of the foods that we eat. They should do something to thank the hands that feed them. But yeah, since I'm not a supporter of rap, hip hop, and the "ghetto" lifestyle, I'm deemed a "racist." Give me a break. It's not being racist, it's telling the truth. Truth hurts, don't it?


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Shawn O'Domski said:
I do feel the rap/hip hop artists should be asked to perform at this Farm Aid event. But the problem is that they won't do it, because the event doesn't target the ghetto, ebonics, drug dealing, gang banging lifestyle. They should be involved in the event, because if it wasn't for farmers, we wouldn't get most of the foods that we eat. They should do something to thank the hands that feed them. But yeah, since I'm not a supporter of rap, hip hop, and the "ghetto" lifestyle, I'm deemed a "racist." Give me a break. It's not being racist, it's telling the truth. Truth hurts, don't it?
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It's really a shame you have such a narrow view of what rap/hip hop music embodies. Yes, it's true, the more popular forms (or at least the forms you hear out of the backs of black and white cars) are mostly "bling-bling/ghetto" themed, but there is so much more out there. What about the Fugees/Wyclef? They're popular, not 'blingy' and there are others that are more political than Fugees that don't get any airplay at all as a result of political content. PDs have deemed that people don't want to hear it, and there ya go. Political consciousness is never offered as an option, so no need or want is there. Classic chicken-and-egg for 'the hand that feeds' indeed. But I digress...

The form you cite as popular is so because white people consume it. Black people comprise somewhere between 10 and 20% of the population; statistically, that means your 'bling' consumers lie somewhere in the other 80%, meaning a large percentage of whites are consuming 'race music'. So, I think rather than the 'bling artists' turning down a Farm-related benefit, I think the idea never came up in the planning, or was quickly scuttled. The promoters probably assumed that it would not reach the core audience. And if the other artisits brought in money, why would you shake that up by offering programming that might turn off a segement of the audience that is used to country-rooted rock? Stay the course is the thinking. Was this argument offered when Public Enemy was popular? I don't think so, but they could be put on the bill IMHO, if offered and promoted in the right way. They were popular with the 'alt-rock consumers', of which I am one, and with Niel Young is a crossover artist.

I'm sure your racism is more deeply rooted than a simple music choice, as your writing depicts. "They should do something to thank the hands that feed them.". What does that mean-really? Would you care to decode that a little bit for me?

AFAIK, the factory farms are doing fine. Monsanto is doing fine. How much food do you think comes from 'farmers in need' anyway?
 
Shawn O'Domski said:
I do feel the rap/hip hop artists should be asked to perform at this Farm Aid event. But the problem is that they won't do it, because the event doesn't target the [EDIT]. They should be involved in the event, because if it wasn't for farmers, we wouldn't get most of the foods that we eat. They should do something to thank the hands that feed them. But yeah, since I'm not a supporter of rap, hip hop, and the "ghetto" lifestyle, I'm deemed a "racist." Give me a break. It's not being racist, it's telling the truth. Truth hurts, don't it?


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Where is your proof that they wont help? Your racist attitude towards minorities is showing through. How about backing your statement up with legit facts? Did you call the producers of Farm Aid and ask them?
 
I know Sean, can't say who I am but he's no racist.


"It's really a shame you have such a narrow view of what rap/hip hop music embodies. Yes, it's true, the more popular forms (or at least the forms you hear out of the backs of black and white cars) are mostly "bling-bling/ghetto" themed, but there is so much more out there. What about the Fugees/Wyclef?"


Hmmn, tell me that what Sean or that all radio stations should be rock dude/dudes have said anything more racist that this.

"Some of these nappy heads need to check their necks for red"

"The blacker the black man the better the next man"

--Fugees Nappy Heads '94


Tell me how crazy the left here would react if Rockman whatever said "The whiter the white man the better the next man?

Even if you are fasting like so many of you are now, you still keep that steady diet of crow.


*Sorry that my first post is this, but hypocrats (not a misspelling) annoy me. I work in radio and have much to share.
 
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