Jon Ellis at NorthPine.com points out that FCC Auction No. 62 has begun, putting 171 new FM construction permits up for grabs. The only vacant allotment in Illinois in this auction is for a class A signal in Gilman on 103.3 MHz. At the moment, Milner Broadcasting is ahead.
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FCC Auction 62 underway - allotment in Gilman
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> Jon Ellis at NorthPine.com points out that FCC Auction No.
> 62 has begun, putting 171 new FM construction permits up for
> grabs. The only vacant allotment in Illinois in this
> auction is for a class A signal in Gilman on 103.3 MHz. At
> the moment, Milner Broadcasting is ahead.
They can have it.
> 62 has begun, putting 171 new FM construction permits up for
> grabs. The only vacant allotment in Illinois in this
> auction is for a class A signal in Gilman on 103.3 MHz. At
> the moment, Milner Broadcasting is ahead.
They can have it.
> > Jon Ellis at NorthPine.com points out that FCC Auction No.
>
> > 62 has begun, putting 171 new FM construction permits up
> for
> > grabs. The only vacant allotment in Illinois in this
> > auction is for a class A signal in Gilman on 103.3 MHz.
> At
> > the moment, Milner Broadcasting is ahead.
> They can have it.
It would not cost them much just for the CP. Maybe it is
worth it to run a station locally, without a lot of overhead,
and to sell in the area around Gilman. Especially to a guy
who is already operating in the area.
>
> > 62 has begun, putting 171 new FM construction permits up
> for
> > grabs. The only vacant allotment in Illinois in this
> > auction is for a class A signal in Gilman on 103.3 MHz.
> At
> > the moment, Milner Broadcasting is ahead.
> They can have it.
It would not cost them much just for the CP. Maybe it is
worth it to run a station locally, without a lot of overhead,
and to sell in the area around Gilman. Especially to a guy
who is already operating in the area.
B
Buzzsings
Guest
> > > Jon Ellis at NorthPine.com points out that FCC Auction
> No.62 has begun, putting 171 new FM construction permits up
> for grabs. The only vacant allotment in Illinois in this
> auction is for a class A signal in Gilman on 103.3 MHz.
>
> At the moment, Milner Broadcasting is ahead.
>
> They can have it.
>
> It would not cost them much just for the CP. Maybe it is
> worth it to run a station locally, without a lot of
> overhead,and to sell in the area around Gilman. Especially to
> a guy who is already operating in the area.
>
MAYBE the greater Gilman/Crescent City region will forever be thankful, in case of another fatal major train wreck and fire. That seems to be the only thing (other than the restaurants and the BP/Amoco) that I can recall from 30+ years of traveling through those towns. But I digressed immediately.
Key point.
Are there ANY BUSINESSES who would benefit from this new station??? I KNOW the communities would like to hear more weather/temp/time/news/local color (they could interview the truck drivers and EDIT their comments about daily news items as part of their broadcasts --- IF someone wants to spend 3 hours doing that). But, the bottom line is, can this new station, alongside or rivaling the other station, be supported by the local businesses? Can these stations support the local businesses? It could be more than a little challenge.
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"GOD BLESS US RADIO GEEKS"
> No.62 has begun, putting 171 new FM construction permits up
> for grabs. The only vacant allotment in Illinois in this
> auction is for a class A signal in Gilman on 103.3 MHz.
>
> At the moment, Milner Broadcasting is ahead.
>
> They can have it.
>
> It would not cost them much just for the CP. Maybe it is
> worth it to run a station locally, without a lot of
> overhead,and to sell in the area around Gilman. Especially to
> a guy who is already operating in the area.
>
MAYBE the greater Gilman/Crescent City region will forever be thankful, in case of another fatal major train wreck and fire. That seems to be the only thing (other than the restaurants and the BP/Amoco) that I can recall from 30+ years of traveling through those towns. But I digressed immediately.
Key point.
Are there ANY BUSINESSES who would benefit from this new station??? I KNOW the communities would like to hear more weather/temp/time/news/local color (they could interview the truck drivers and EDIT their comments about daily news items as part of their broadcasts --- IF someone wants to spend 3 hours doing that). But, the bottom line is, can this new station, alongside or rivaling the other station, be supported by the local businesses? Can these stations support the local businesses? It could be more than a little challenge.
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"GOD BLESS US RADIO GEEKS"
R
RobC
Guest
Hey,
In the theoretical world of contour maps--what would the coverage area for this station be, and with the Milner family bidding on it, could it put a listenable signal into the Kankakee area? Or could you put your transmitter somewhere where it would give Gilman coverage--and Kankaee coverage. I'm not very technical, just raising a technical question for the enginering types!
> > > Jon Ellis at NorthPine.com points out that FCC Auction
>
> > No.62 has begun, putting 171 new FM construction permits
> up
> > for grabs. The only vacant allotment in Illinois in this
> > auction is for a class A signal in Gilman on 103.3 MHz.
> >
> > At the moment, Milner Broadcasting is ahead.
> >
> > They can have it.
> >
> > It would not cost them much just for the CP. Maybe it is
> > worth it to run a station locally, without a lot of
> > overhead,and to sell in the area around Gilman. Especially
> to
> > a guy who is already operating in the area.
> >
>
>
> MAYBE the greater Gilman/Crescent City region will forever
> be thankful, in case of another fatal major train wreck and
> fire. That seems to be the only thing (other than the
> restaurants and the BP/Amoco) that I can recall from 30+
> years of traveling through those towns. But I digressed
> immediately.
>
> Key point.
>
> Are there ANY BUSINESSES who would benefit from this new
> station??? I KNOW the communities would like to hear more
> weather/temp/time/news/local color (they could interview the
> truck drivers and EDIT their comments about daily news items
> as part of their broadcasts --- IF someone wants to spend 3
> hours doing that). But, the bottom line is, can this new
> station, alongside or rivaling the other station, be
> supported by the local businesses? Can these stations
> support the local businesses? It could be more than a
> little challenge.
>
> ------------------------------------
> "GOD BLESS US RADIO GEEKS"
>
In the theoretical world of contour maps--what would the coverage area for this station be, and with the Milner family bidding on it, could it put a listenable signal into the Kankakee area? Or could you put your transmitter somewhere where it would give Gilman coverage--and Kankaee coverage. I'm not very technical, just raising a technical question for the enginering types!
> > > Jon Ellis at NorthPine.com points out that FCC Auction
>
> > No.62 has begun, putting 171 new FM construction permits
> up
> > for grabs. The only vacant allotment in Illinois in this
> > auction is for a class A signal in Gilman on 103.3 MHz.
> >
> > At the moment, Milner Broadcasting is ahead.
> >
> > They can have it.
> >
> > It would not cost them much just for the CP. Maybe it is
> > worth it to run a station locally, without a lot of
> > overhead,and to sell in the area around Gilman. Especially
> to
> > a guy who is already operating in the area.
> >
>
>
> MAYBE the greater Gilman/Crescent City region will forever
> be thankful, in case of another fatal major train wreck and
> fire. That seems to be the only thing (other than the
> restaurants and the BP/Amoco) that I can recall from 30+
> years of traveling through those towns. But I digressed
> immediately.
>
> Key point.
>
> Are there ANY BUSINESSES who would benefit from this new
> station??? I KNOW the communities would like to hear more
> weather/temp/time/news/local color (they could interview the
> truck drivers and EDIT their comments about daily news items
> as part of their broadcasts --- IF someone wants to spend 3
> hours doing that). But, the bottom line is, can this new
> station, alongside or rivaling the other station, be
> supported by the local businesses? Can these stations
> support the local businesses? It could be more than a
> little challenge.
>
> ------------------------------------
> "GOD BLESS US RADIO GEEKS"
>
B
Buzzsings
Guest
> Hey,
>
> In the theoretical world of contour maps--what would the
> coverage area for this station be, and with the Milner
> family bidding on it, could it put a listenable signal into
> the Kankakee area? Or could you put your transmitter
> somewhere where it would give Gilman coverage--and Kankaee
> coverage. I'm not very technical, just raising a technical
> question for the enginering types!
I hope I'm not talking out of my understanding on this subject. I am NOT an engineer.
There's a Kankakee station with 2.3KW - WLVI-FM - and judging by their 60dBu contour viewed through the FCC site --- I'd say it would probably be a stretch with a Class A station from Gilman to get a signal into Kankakee. Maybe a marginal signal as close/far as Clifton - but Kankakee looks too far. Even if it ended up with as much as a 6KW signal on 103.3, it'd still be quite a stretch.
Now that I've also looked at the WKIF-FM 3KW signal contour (from FCC site) --- my viewpoint stays much the same: it appears there would be no significant signal on 103.3/Gilman beyond Clifton. WKIF's tower shows it's in the heart of Kankakee and the signal goes just south of Clifton (60dBu contour). I guess Gilman probably wants something other than the Watseka 50KW FM. At least Gilman, Crescent City and Clifton will have another station. 103.3/Gilman may reach as far east as Watseka, depending upon placement of the tower from the bidding winner.
Reading what I wrote, I am a radio geek. Now, WHERE ARE ALL MY BEAUTIES (the females like on the WB-TV show) for my "reality radio show"????? {Premise looks like this: They'd get to sit in studio wearing their bikinis, downing drinks, using the company tanning bed, and playing to the webcams for extra money (would they have a separate area for changing clothes, or would that also be sold through paypal? Extra revenues for the radio station, probably).}
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"GOD BLESS US RADIO GEEKS"
>
> In the theoretical world of contour maps--what would the
> coverage area for this station be, and with the Milner
> family bidding on it, could it put a listenable signal into
> the Kankakee area? Or could you put your transmitter
> somewhere where it would give Gilman coverage--and Kankaee
> coverage. I'm not very technical, just raising a technical
> question for the enginering types!
I hope I'm not talking out of my understanding on this subject. I am NOT an engineer.
There's a Kankakee station with 2.3KW - WLVI-FM - and judging by their 60dBu contour viewed through the FCC site --- I'd say it would probably be a stretch with a Class A station from Gilman to get a signal into Kankakee. Maybe a marginal signal as close/far as Clifton - but Kankakee looks too far. Even if it ended up with as much as a 6KW signal on 103.3, it'd still be quite a stretch.
Now that I've also looked at the WKIF-FM 3KW signal contour (from FCC site) --- my viewpoint stays much the same: it appears there would be no significant signal on 103.3/Gilman beyond Clifton. WKIF's tower shows it's in the heart of Kankakee and the signal goes just south of Clifton (60dBu contour). I guess Gilman probably wants something other than the Watseka 50KW FM. At least Gilman, Crescent City and Clifton will have another station. 103.3/Gilman may reach as far east as Watseka, depending upon placement of the tower from the bidding winner.
Reading what I wrote, I am a radio geek. Now, WHERE ARE ALL MY BEAUTIES (the females like on the WB-TV show) for my "reality radio show"????? {Premise looks like this: They'd get to sit in studio wearing their bikinis, downing drinks, using the company tanning bed, and playing to the webcams for extra money (would they have a separate area for changing clothes, or would that also be sold through paypal? Extra revenues for the radio station, probably).}
------------------------------------
"GOD BLESS US RADIO GEEKS"
> Jon Ellis at NorthPine.com points out that FCC Auction No.
> 62 has begun, putting 171 new FM construction permits up for
> grabs. The only vacant allotment in Illinois in this
> auction is for a class A signal in Gilman on 103.3 MHz. At
> the moment, Milner Broadcasting is ahead.
I somehow missed that there's also an allotment up for grabs in Erie on 105.5 MHz. Ace Radio Corp. is currently in the lead for both allotments. It's not clear how much longer the auction will last.
> 62 has begun, putting 171 new FM construction permits up for
> grabs. The only vacant allotment in Illinois in this
> auction is for a class A signal in Gilman on 103.3 MHz. At
> the moment, Milner Broadcasting is ahead.
I somehow missed that there's also an allotment up for grabs in Erie on 105.5 MHz. Ace Radio Corp. is currently in the lead for both allotments. It's not clear how much longer the auction will last.
> I hope I'm not talking out of my understanding on this
> subject. I am NOT an engineer.
>
> There's a Kankakee station with 2.3KW - WLVI-FM - and
> judging by their 60dBu contour viewed through the FCC site
> --- I'd say it would probably be a stretch with a Class A
> station from Gilman to get a signal into Kankakee. Maybe a
> marginal signal as close/far as Clifton - but Kankakee looks
> too far. Even if it ended up with as much as a 6KW signal
> on 103.3, it'd still be quite a stretch.
>
> Now that I've also looked at the WKIF-FM 3KW signal contour
> (from FCC site) --- my viewpoint stays much the same: it
> appears there would be no significant signal on 103.3/Gilman
> beyond Clifton. WKIF's tower shows it's in the heart of
> Kankakee and the signal goes just south of Clifton (60dBu
> contour). I guess Gilman probably wants something other
> than the Watseka 50KW FM. At least Gilman, Crescent City
> and Clifton will have another station. 103.3/Gilman may
> reach as far east as Watseka, depending upon placement of
> the tower from the bidding winner.
The tower can be a considerable distance north of Gilman while still earning the right to have a Gilman COL. 101.7 WIVR is licensed to Kentland, Indiana but covers Kankakee with a strong signal from a tower near Donovan, which is about half way between Kankakee and Kentland. WIVR has adequate signal all the way up to Peotone. It hits Gilman, too. These sticks get out pretty well over all that flat land in East Central Illinois.
103.1 WCSJ-FM is another limiting factor on how far north the transmitter for 103.3 can go.
> subject. I am NOT an engineer.
>
> There's a Kankakee station with 2.3KW - WLVI-FM - and
> judging by their 60dBu contour viewed through the FCC site
> --- I'd say it would probably be a stretch with a Class A
> station from Gilman to get a signal into Kankakee. Maybe a
> marginal signal as close/far as Clifton - but Kankakee looks
> too far. Even if it ended up with as much as a 6KW signal
> on 103.3, it'd still be quite a stretch.
>
> Now that I've also looked at the WKIF-FM 3KW signal contour
> (from FCC site) --- my viewpoint stays much the same: it
> appears there would be no significant signal on 103.3/Gilman
> beyond Clifton. WKIF's tower shows it's in the heart of
> Kankakee and the signal goes just south of Clifton (60dBu
> contour). I guess Gilman probably wants something other
> than the Watseka 50KW FM. At least Gilman, Crescent City
> and Clifton will have another station. 103.3/Gilman may
> reach as far east as Watseka, depending upon placement of
> the tower from the bidding winner.
The tower can be a considerable distance north of Gilman while still earning the right to have a Gilman COL. 101.7 WIVR is licensed to Kentland, Indiana but covers Kankakee with a strong signal from a tower near Donovan, which is about half way between Kankakee and Kentland. WIVR has adequate signal all the way up to Peotone. It hits Gilman, too. These sticks get out pretty well over all that flat land in East Central Illinois.
103.1 WCSJ-FM is another limiting factor on how far north the transmitter for 103.3 can go.
> > I hope I'm not talking out of my understanding on this
> > subject. I am NOT an engineer.
> >
> > There's a Kankakee station with 2.3KW - WLVI-FM - and
> > judging by their 60dBu contour viewed through the FCC site
>
> > --- I'd say it would probably be a stretch with a Class A
> > station from Gilman to get a signal into Kankakee. Maybe
> a
> > marginal signal as close/far as Clifton - but Kankakee
> looks
> > too far. Even if it ended up with as much as a 6KW signal
>
> > on 103.3, it'd still be quite a stretch.
> >
> > Now that I've also looked at the WKIF-FM 3KW signal
> contour
> > (from FCC site) --- my viewpoint stays much the same: it
> > appears there would be no significant signal on
> 103.3/Gilman
> > beyond Clifton. WKIF's tower shows it's in the heart of
> > Kankakee and the signal goes just south of Clifton (60dBu
> > contour). I guess Gilman probably wants something other
> > than the Watseka 50KW FM. At least Gilman, Crescent City
> > and Clifton will have another station. 103.3/Gilman may
> > reach as far east as Watseka, depending upon placement of
> > the tower from the bidding winner.
>
> The tower can be a considerable distance north of Gilman
> while still earning the right to have a Gilman COL. 101.7
> WIVR is licensed to Kentland, Indiana but covers Kankakee
> with a strong signal from a tower near Donovan, which is
> about half way between Kankakee and Kentland. WIVR has
> adequate signal all the way up to Peotone. It hits Gilman,
> too. These sticks get out pretty well over all that flat
> land in East Central Illinois.
>
> 103.1 WCSJ-FM is another limiting factor on how far north
> the transmitter for 103.3 can go.
>
Based on the estimated contour on radio-locator.com, they might be lucky if they get a 3kw Class A license and would likely have to put the tower up in Iroquois County since WCSJ-FM puts secondary coverage over portions of Kankakee County.
> > subject. I am NOT an engineer.
> >
> > There's a Kankakee station with 2.3KW - WLVI-FM - and
> > judging by their 60dBu contour viewed through the FCC site
>
> > --- I'd say it would probably be a stretch with a Class A
> > station from Gilman to get a signal into Kankakee. Maybe
> a
> > marginal signal as close/far as Clifton - but Kankakee
> looks
> > too far. Even if it ended up with as much as a 6KW signal
>
> > on 103.3, it'd still be quite a stretch.
> >
> > Now that I've also looked at the WKIF-FM 3KW signal
> contour
> > (from FCC site) --- my viewpoint stays much the same: it
> > appears there would be no significant signal on
> 103.3/Gilman
> > beyond Clifton. WKIF's tower shows it's in the heart of
> > Kankakee and the signal goes just south of Clifton (60dBu
> > contour). I guess Gilman probably wants something other
> > than the Watseka 50KW FM. At least Gilman, Crescent City
> > and Clifton will have another station. 103.3/Gilman may
> > reach as far east as Watseka, depending upon placement of
> > the tower from the bidding winner.
>
> The tower can be a considerable distance north of Gilman
> while still earning the right to have a Gilman COL. 101.7
> WIVR is licensed to Kentland, Indiana but covers Kankakee
> with a strong signal from a tower near Donovan, which is
> about half way between Kankakee and Kentland. WIVR has
> adequate signal all the way up to Peotone. It hits Gilman,
> too. These sticks get out pretty well over all that flat
> land in East Central Illinois.
>
> 103.1 WCSJ-FM is another limiting factor on how far north
> the transmitter for 103.3 can go.
>
Based on the estimated contour on radio-locator.com, they might be lucky if they get a 3kw Class A license and would likely have to put the tower up in Iroquois County since WCSJ-FM puts secondary coverage over portions of Kankakee County.
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