FCC Commissioner Jonathan Adelstein's words on IBOC

[ElCheapo]

From the NAB Radio Show session on HD Radio:

"HD Radio moving forward is critical. We need to give radio the tools to compete with the diversity you see on satellite radio."

Ahhh... The Commission gets it!

 

[SUPERCASTER]

From the NAB Radio Show session on HD Radio:

"HD Radio moving forward is critical. We need to give radio the tools to compete with the diversity you see on satellite radio."

Ahhh... The Commission gets it!

The HD Radio supporters have been declaring, loud and often, that satellite radio has no effect on terrestrial radio, and represents no threat or competition.
Now Mr. Adelstein claims "HD Radio moving forward is critical. We need to give radio the tools to compete with the diversity you see on satellite radio."
Which is lieing and which telling the truth?
If broadcasters are depending on HD Radio save terrestrial radio, they better come up with a system that works. Not the defective, destructive, expensive HD Radio system with half coverage, interferes with the fidelity of the parent analog station, including all it's neighbors, isn't reliable, needs carefully placed, large external antennas, is truly full CD quality, and costs the same as analog radios.

 

[4dude]

Ya SATELLITE RADIO doesnt effect "terrestrial" radio but this stupid IBOC crap sure does!!!!!!

 

[SUPERCASTER]

Ya SATELLITE RADIO doesnt effect "terrestrial" radio but this stupid IBOC crap sure does!!!!!!

So Commissioner Adelstein is lieing?
I smell a Congressional investigation.

 

[700WLW]

From the NAB Radio Show session on HD Radio:

"HD Radio moving forward is critical. We need to give radio the tools to compete with the diversity you see on satellite radio."

Ahhh... The Commission gets it!

You need to stop wasting bandwidth posting these nonsense threads - it is very evident there is a lack of pro-IBOC articles to post. Feeling better, after your major-meltdown Saturday - I sure got IBOCRocks to take the bait !

 

[dumber than a box of hair]

From the NAB Radio Show session on HD Radio:

"HD Radio moving forward is critical. We need to give radio the tools to compete with the diversity you see on satellite radio."

Ahhh... The Commission gets it!

I would dearly love to have some of what you're smoking.

Just because an FCC commissioner makes an uninformed comment regarding a technology about which he has not the slightest clue, "The Commission gets it!"????

When was the last time anyone but a lawyer was appointed to the FCC? For that matter, when was the last time that an appointment to the FCC was something other than a political payback? When was the last time an appointment to the FCC was made on the basis of some actual knowledge of the technologies and businesses the FCC regulates?

That quote has to be one of the funniest things I've ever heard out of the mouth of a commissioner. It's also one of the most dangerous things, given that he and his four compatriots purport to regulate the airwaves and repeatedly demonstrate their appalling ignorance of the subject.

 

[ElCheapo]

Ya SATELLITE RADIO doesnt effect "terrestrial" radio but this stupid IBOC crap sure does!!!!!!

So Commissioner Adelstein is lieing?
I smell a Congressional investigation.

The word you're looking for is "lying."

We're talking about Washington politics. When has anyone involved with terrestrial radio claimed satellite radio doesn't effect them? The NAB has been lobbying against the satcasters since day one.

 

[ElCheapo]

You need to stop wasting bandwidth posting these nonsense threads - it is very evident there is a lack of pro-IBOC articles to post. Feeling better, after your major-meltdown Saturday - I sure got IBOCRocks to take the bait !

First, I'm not IBOCRocks, or Old Gringo, or any of the other people this paranoid bunch seems to think I am.

Second, I'd do it every day if I really felt it would get under your skin. By the amount of talk on the subject, I'm starting to think it does. There's 1,000 stations on air with HD. That's a lot of articles and information to post...

Hmmm...

 

[700WLW]

You need to stop wasting bandwidth posting these nonsense threads - it is very evident there is a lack of pro-IBOC articles to post. Feeling better, after your major-meltdown Saturday - I sure got IBOCRocks to take the bait !

First, I'm not IBOCRocks, or Old Gringo, or any of the other people this paranoid bunch seems to think I am.

Second, I'd do it every day if I really felt it would get under your skin. By the amount of talk on the subject, I'm starting to think it does. There's 1,000 stations on air with HD. That's a lot of articles and information to post...

Hmmm...

Almost all of the articles are critical of HD Radio, for good reason. I guess, you are not IBOCRocks, because when you have a meltdown, as on Saturday, you just madly post a bunch of nonsense threads; IBOCRocks, wrote eulogies, but he always returned the next day !

 

[ElCheapo]

Almost all of the articles are critical of HD Radio, for good reason. I guess, you are not IBOCRocks, because when you have a meltdown, as on Saturday, you just madly post a bunch of nonsense threads; IBOCRocks, wrote eulogies, but he always returned the next day !

Gee... Madly posting a bunch of "nonsense threads" comprised mostly of off-site articles. That doesn't remind you of anyone does it?

 

[700WLW]

Almost all of the articles are critical of HD Radio, for good reason. I guess, you are not IBOCRocks, because when you have a meltdown, as on Saturday, you just madly post a bunch of nonsense threads; IBOCRocks, wrote eulogies, but he always returned the next day !

Gee... Madly posting a bunch of "nonsense threads" comprised mostly of off-site articles. That doesn't remind you of anyone does it?

Even my "Santa" thread got a bunch of responses - that is why I post, just to watch you have meltdowns, like you did right after my "Santa" thread !

 

[dbdigital]

From the NAB Radio Show session on HD Radio:

"HD Radio moving forward is critical. We need to give radio the tools to compete with the diversity you see on satellite radio."

Ahhh... The Commission gets it!

I would dearly love to have some of what you're smoking.

Just because an FCC commissioner makes an uninformed comment regarding a technology about which he has not the slightest clue, "The Commission gets it!"????

When was the last time anyone but a lawyer was appointed to the FCC? For that matter, when was the last time that an appointment to the FCC was something other than a political payback? When was the last time an appointment to the FCC was made on the basis of some actual knowledge of the technologies and businesses the FCC regulates?

That quote has to be one of the funniest things I've ever heard out of the mouth of a commissioner. It's also one of the most dangerous things, given that he and his four compatriots purport to regulate the airwaves and repeatedly demonstrate their appalling ignorance of the subject.

I've always respected Mr. Adlestein for his support of low power community broadcasting and keeping the ownership caps.

But his comment is a reflection of the FCC's apparent determination to impliment IBOC no matter what the consequences. What I find interesting is the total lack of response from the agency on the overwhelming evidence of interference that IBOC causes. Usually they're so 'anal' about interference issues.

As I understand it, the FCC will approve IBOC for AM nighttime use. When that occurs, the agency will have to address the matter of interference, especially as broadcasters begin filing complaints.

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[Tom Wells]

From the NAB Radio Show session on HD Radio:

"HD Radio moving forward is critical. We need to give radio the tools to compete with the diversity you see on satellite radio."

If the commission wants to give broadcasters a tool to make this technology feasible and workable, I would suggest a new model of physics, in which all logarithmic, analog fn(x) are replaced by functions which have a bistable (0 or 1) result in a single term.
THEN, begin to model systems which can behave this way. Then, scale it up to a few bits, then a word of several bytes.
Eventually you can get to something like digital-packet audio reconstruction.

As we live in a dimension and world in which our bodies and minds must function, such interfaces and systems have evolved as analog,
for reasons of efficiency, I would first contact the philosophers, theologians, and high level physicists.
A patent I read some years back (issued!) proposed that reality has 11 dimensions. Maybe HD radio works in one of them.

I believe an antenna to work really well for this would have to be a "singularity" a POINT, which cannot, by definition, ENGAGE the "ether", as in our dimension, antennas must be physically related in wavelength to the frequency.

Do any of the commissioners know about the velocity of propogation in antennas vs free space? Or any real-world engineering facts?