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FCC Makes it Official. Everett to get a 4th radio station this summer
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amusing dialogue?......... a dogs eye view from an old porch hound watching the puppies nip, fight and growl with each other in the grass. nice
GREAT idea for 1520. But an idea that's going to take a LOT of PROMOTION. Get out there and be seen by potential LISTENERS as well as advertisers.
I worry about the signal though. KGDD comes in pretty loudly in NW Washington. The last thing you want is to hear a music format over a continuous soundtrack of Regional Mexican music in Marysville.
Someone mentioned www.1520.com and if I didn't know any better, all I could have said was WOW! How fail-safe is THAT? Even if the radio station failed to sell the way it was supposed to, you still had the always profitable Hong Kong IT consulting firm to fall back on for cashflow...........
I worry about the signal though. KGDD comes in pretty loudly in NW Washington. The last thing you want is to hear a music format over a continuous soundtrack of Regional Mexican music in Marysville.
Someone mentioned www.1520.com and if I didn't know any better, all I could have said was WOW! How fail-safe is THAT? Even if the radio station failed to sell the way it was supposed to, you still had the always profitable Hong Kong IT consulting firm to fall back on for cashflow...........
scott salvatori said:
I'm not sure why I even to bother replying to your ignorant posts Scott. You obviously don't want to learn anything about how radio works, but here goes..
The markets I was involved in who attempted reciprocal agreements were: Hartford Connecticut, Fresno CA, Pittsburgh PA, Jacksonville, FLA, San Francisco, CA. And no, I'm not going to name call letters or management names, not that you'd know who they were anyway.
And no, all the writers and editors from the paper didn't sound like Pee Wee Herman. Some mumbled when behind a mic. Many weren't available when their time came to go on the air. Some refused to do the broadcast because they wanted more money to do a broadcast plus write for print. There were numerous reasons; these is just a few.
Yes from what I understand KRKO is indeed still on the air, but I believe their ad rates are probably much less than one of the larger stations from a big market. And you think a station like KRKO should be able to shoulder the same level of expense to provide equal programming, including local news and talent? There would be plywood over the windows if indeed that were the case.scott salvatori said:
Oh and someone mentioned to me once that the KRKO sign on that building that could be seen on the Southbound lanes of I-5 didn't house KRKO. If that indeed is true, then given how much you know about bedroom community radio, why would you use that as an example?
regarding guru posting:.......and so all radio/newspaper alliances have failed, and it just so happens you/the guru was a player, or spectator in each of them? wow, you sound like a big wheel! hmm....
dont reckon i ever said a station like KRKO should staff a news dept on equal to a major market. never did bark up that tree. hence the reason i thunk up the newspaper alliance, with small AM'ers. never even knew it was something was ever done in radio. remember, i'm a steering wheel holder, not a radio executive. what exactly is your point, that KRKO should cease operation, and bow down, suck up and kiss the boots of KIRO, and KJR? who was first to do all sports radio in the puget sound region? KRKO, bubba! long before the corporate suit and tie men even broke wind on that format around here. so the ad rates are much less on KRKO, you think? are the sponsor rates on owner/driver morgan shepherds nascar nationwide car quarter panel, less than joe gibbs owned, kyle busch driven race car? yep, small sponsors, and advertisers can actually get an ad on the air on KRKO, and some space on a morgan shepherd nascar race car for a price that fits their budget. where they wouldnt have much of a $$ chance on KIRO, or kyle busch. sorry buddy, but not everyone is so well endowed as to be the top financial broadcasting dog. glad you get to rub shoulders with the broadcasting and advertising elite, and drive new BMW's. aint it great to be livin in the USA!
case closed. besides bill w. is rolling his eyes at this amusing dialogue. so lets get back to more interesting postings, like the inner workings, and schematics of a transmitter
dont reckon i ever said a station like KRKO should staff a news dept on equal to a major market. never did bark up that tree. hence the reason i thunk up the newspaper alliance, with small AM'ers. never even knew it was something was ever done in radio. remember, i'm a steering wheel holder, not a radio executive. what exactly is your point, that KRKO should cease operation, and bow down, suck up and kiss the boots of KIRO, and KJR? who was first to do all sports radio in the puget sound region? KRKO, bubba! long before the corporate suit and tie men even broke wind on that format around here. so the ad rates are much less on KRKO, you think? are the sponsor rates on owner/driver morgan shepherds nascar nationwide car quarter panel, less than joe gibbs owned, kyle busch driven race car? yep, small sponsors, and advertisers can actually get an ad on the air on KRKO, and some space on a morgan shepherd nascar race car for a price that fits their budget. where they wouldnt have much of a $$ chance on KIRO, or kyle busch. sorry buddy, but not everyone is so well endowed as to be the top financial broadcasting dog. glad you get to rub shoulders with the broadcasting and advertising elite, and drive new BMW's. aint it great to be livin in the USA!
case closed. besides bill w. is rolling his eyes at this amusing dialogue. so lets get back to more interesting postings, like the inner workings, and schematics of a transmitter
scott salvatori said:
I know you mean that tongue-in-cheek...but I'd LOVE to hear about that! One bummer about losing the license requirement for air talent is that we are never forced to learn that side of the biz...and it's fairly critical in the broadcast biz to know something about how broadcasting works!!
Anyone feel like taking a deep breath and spewing out a few sentences on the theme of "Transmitters for Dummies". WIth a title like THAT ... all who participate on the board are eligible!!!!!
(Ignore this post...key stuck on my 1967 keyboard and there is no way to delete...)
LITTLEBOYBLUE said:
That's a great idea. But I admit, I'm a simple man when it come to super high-end electrical/electronic devices like full power radio transmitters. I like to turn something on, it works. Otherwise, I'm likely to make a lot of garage doors open and pacemakers go berserk......
LITTLEBOYBLUE said:
Whaaat? You need a transmitter you say? I knew I was doing something wrong
Seriously though I am always willing to learn something provided it doesn't put me to sleep....
Which stations are you counting as "Everett Radio stations" ???? I count only 3. KWYZ - 1230, KRKO - 1380 and the new KKXA - 1520 in Snohomish. And some would not even count 1230 as a radio station.
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I remember those Jack Straw guys, they sold 107.7 FM Seattle (KRAB), then tried to take 89.5 FM Seattle from KNHC Nathan Hale High School's station with numerous legal maneuvers, going all the way up to Supreme court. I wonder if they are going after some high school's station in Everett now? Last time I seen 'em in Lynnwood with low power.BurntOutRadio said:
Bill Wolfenbarger said:
So I've always wondered if there is some kind of "wholesale" rate for running a high-power facility 24/7 with the power company? Is there some "per kw" swag of what a transmitter cost is (along the lines of "figure $1K per KW every month"). Just curious what operators face in terms of fixed overhead cost on that part of the operation....as it seems SOME AM's would be far more prudent to just say "no thanks" and walk away.
Every utility has a different rate structure. Back in the early 70s, I convinced Seattle City Light that our transmitters on Harbor Island should qualify for a "manufacturing" rate. They wouldn't, however, allow the rate for lights and heat. A 50kw AM today should be running 85% efficient, and a rough power consumption cost in Seattle might be what, somewhere between $4,000 and $6,000 per month? How far off am I?
I vaguely remember that when I sold a 50 kw Harris to KPNW in Eugene in the mid 90s, the expected cost savings were around $30,000 per year or more.
I vaguely remember that when I sold a 50 kw Harris to KPNW in Eugene in the mid 90s, the expected cost savings were around $30,000 per year or more.
semoochie said:With KGA dropping its clear status, maybe they could bring back the one in Mountlake Terrace!
If the KGA power drop happened 28 years ago, it would have been an answered prayer for the old KURB/KKNW/KKZU. But it also probably would have meant a super-crazy nighttime signal pattern for 1510 on this side with the rules being what they were in the early '80s.. Can't go east, not very far south, have to protect then-CKAY 1500 in the northwest. Probably a weird "clover" shape with lobes going northeast/southwest/west, but missing most of Everett and Seattle. It would probably give any engineer a stroke just thinking about it......
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