FCC Restricted Radiotelephone Permits...

[knowbetter]

are they still around? are they still needed?

 

[Turntable]

Good Question!

I know I still have mine, but I don't think they are required any longer. Anyone know for sure?

-A

 

[maineengineer]

For sure nothing is required any longer, not even to work on a transmitter. Just remember to keep your left hand in your pocket when working around anything electrical which could kill you.

 

[oldiesstation]

not needed.i still have the old FirstPhone issued in 1967.good tip main engineer, i've lost a couple of very well qualified engineers who did STUPID things like defeat the interlock and work on a 50kw AM.Me i'm gonna kill all power, breakers off, hey if the station has to lose air time so what, always remind them about the backup i suggested...

 

[knowbetter]

For sure nothing is required any longer, not even to work on a transmitter. Just remember to keep your left hand in your pocket when working around anything electrical which could kill you.

I didn't think so, but I figured this was the "bunch to ask"!!!

and I don't think that left hand thing works... I might work if you used both hands, both feet, and stood five feet from the transmitter with the covers on....

I would be careful spitting on CCA meters from that distance, though..

thanks

 

[CW]

I didn't think so, but I figured this was the "bunch to ask"!!!

and I don't think that left hand thing works... I might work if you used both hands, both feet, and stood five feet from the transmitter with the covers on....

I would be careful spitting on CCA meters from that distance, though..

thanks

AHHH, that's not far enough from a CCA !!!!!

 

[littlejohn]

The CCA goes away on one breaker though. My new Harris >STILL< requires that you open >TWO< three phase breakers to safe the box. You'd think after all these eyars they'd catch a clue...

 

[kyscott]

The CCA goes away on one breaker though. My new Harris >STILL< requires that you open >TWO< three phase breakers to safe the box. You'd think after all these eyars they'd catch a clue...

You are requiring Harris designers to think logicly.

 

[amfmsw]

The left (or right) hand in the rear pocket DOES provide some safety. Without an equal impedence exit for the curerent to discharge, the jolt will go up the arm, and return same. IF the other hand is grounded, the current will cross the chest, causing wild cardiac disturbances convulsions, or death. Keeping the free hand in the rear pocket makes it impossible for this tragic accident to happen.

Extreme high voltage is vastly different, and may exit through a belt buckle, zipper, neck jewelery, bracelet or watch. I have personally seen the deadly results.

 

[Neal]

The Restricted Radiotelephone is no longer needed in Broadcasting.
However
It is required if you own a boat with a VHF marine Radio. ,
and or a Pilot to operate an Aircraft radio.
the FCC stil Stamps them to become Valid.
The FAA and the Coast Guard still ask to see them During an inspection.
Failure to produce it During the inspection. You will be issued a citation.
I bought a Plane back in December. While doing my preflight I had a spot inspection.
The Plane Just had a fresh Annual inspection.
I was asked for my Pilots License. my medical certificate ,and My restricted radiotelephone.
I had to show my logbook showing that I was Current with my BFR( biannual flight review)and 3 day and night landings within 90 days.
I only had the 3 day landings... Besides I told him the landings were Only required If I took passengers with Me.
this was a 9 hour solo flight back to NJ from Florida.
So I know the restriced is Required and still asked for.


Neal Newman
East Coast Regional Engineer-MRBI
Proud owner of a 1975 Piper Warrior N229JA

 

[Mike Phillips]

I, too, am a Private Pilot, but I have not flown in 25 years. I only vaguely remember the requirement for the restricted license for the FAA radios. Whatever was required, I was legal. Is the license a fill in the form license, or is there a test? Did my General/First Class ticket eliminate the need for a restricted? Wow, that's been a lot of brain cells ago!!

 

[RF Man]

Whom does this pertain to then?:



TITLE 47--TELECOMMUNICATION

CHAPTER I--FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION

PART 13_COMMERCIAL RADIO OPERATORS--Table of Contents

Sec. 13.5 Licensed commercial radio operator required.

Rules that require FCC station licensees to have certain transmitter
operation, maintenance, and repair duties performed by a commercial
radio operator are contained in parts 23, 80, and 87 of this chapter.

[63 FR 68942, Dec. 14, 1998]

 

[CW]

Whom does this pertain to then?:



TITLE 47--TELECOMMUNICATION

CHAPTER I--FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION

PART 13_COMMERCIAL RADIO OPERATORS--Table of Contents

Sec. 13.5 Licensed commercial radio operator required.

Rules that require FCC station licensees to have certain transmitter
operation, maintenance, and repair duties performed by a commercial
radio operator are contained in parts 23, 80, and 87 of this chapter.

[63 FR 68942, Dec. 14, 1998]

It pertains to the Former 2nd&1st Class or now General Class Radiotelephone commerical license...though not required for broadcast or two way radios, it IS still required in aviation..

 

[littlejohn]

When I took my checkride in 1968, I hadda show the Inspector my pocket card for my First Class license. He was impressed, had never seen one for a First before.

You used to also be able to win bar bets with hams about the first letter of US licensed station calls. They are K, W, ad N; N being used on the license for the aircraft two - way radios if fitted. The license identifiaction si notrmally the N number of the aircraft. It's been years, I don't know if this is still done or not, although I expect it is.

 

[knowbetter]

When I took my checkride in 1968, I hadda show the Inspector my pocket card for my First Class license. He was impressed, had never seen one for a First before.

You used to also be able to win bar bets with hams about the first letter of US licensed station calls. They are K, W, ad N; N being used on the license for the aircraft two - way radios if fitted. The license identifiaction si notrmally the N number of the aircraft. It's been years, I don't know if this is still done or not, although I expect it is.

I must be older than you....(my brain still retains this stuff, or I haven't yet replaced it with something useful)

you forgot the A's...there is/were/are a portion of the A call letters assigned to the US, by international treaty..

The A's were never used commercially, but I think the Military might still use em!

 

[littlejohn]

I has learnt something. Which begs the question, what would happen if someone petitions the FCC for an N or an A call? The geographic soplit has been walked on anyway... Anybody want to throw some money at a Beltway Bandit in hopes of maybe being awarded NYAH (Three Stiooges Radio) or any of the many popssibilities starting with 'A'.
Does the treaty assigning letters specify certain ones to be used for broadcast, or is that the chouice of the country assigned them? In the first instance, you'd (literally) need an Act of Congress, while in the second, a Rulemaking ought to be sufficient.
Anyone got a couple million spare hanging around and a contact at Kaye, Sholer?

 

[knowbetter]

I has learnt something. Which begs the question, what would happen if someone petitions the FCC for an N or an A call? The geographic soplit has been walked on anyway... Anybody want to throw some money at a Beltway Bandit in hopes of maybe being awarded NYAH (Three Stiooges Radio) or any of the many popssibilities starting with 'A'.

I think it's been tried, the FCC says the additional calls were not needed, and suggested that they would be used for other services

Does the treaty assigning letters specify certain ones to be used for broadcast, or is that the chouice of the country assigned them? In the first instance, you'd (literally) need an Act of Congress, while in the second, a Rulemaking ought to be sufficient.

Countries can assign them as they see fit. I think the military uses them in Cuba, or something stupid like that.

Anyone got a couple million spare hanging around and a contact at Kaye, Sholer?

One can only wish...but that would only be the start of another problem...

I'd probably be tempted to invest in radio....

OH the Shame!

 

[CW]

When I took my checkride in 1968, I hadda show the Inspector my pocket card for my First Class license. He was impressed, had never seen one for a First before.

You used to also be able to win bar bets with hams about the first letter of US licensed station calls. They are K, W, ad N; N being used on the license for the aircraft two - way radios if fitted. The license identifiaction si notrmally the N number of the aircraft. It's been years, I don't know if this is still done or not, although I expect it is.

I must be older than you....(my brain still retains this stuff, or I haven't yet replaced it with something useful)

you forgot the A's...there is/were/are a portion of the A call letters assigned to the US, by international treaty..

The A's were never used commercially, but I think the Military might still use em!

A and N have not been used commercially though WRNO wanted NDXE for its shortwave operation but the FCC never would budge....N,A, K and W are used by amateur service, CB/GMRS use K and W....but thats it..A is used by MARS affiliates....LMR uses W, K for now...I am not aware of any N or A starting callsigns in the two way industry.

 

[dumber than a box of hair]

Whom does this pertain to then?:



TITLE 47--TELECOMMUNICATION

CHAPTER I--FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION

PART 13_COMMERCIAL RADIO OPERATORS--Table of Contents

Sec. 13.5 Licensed commercial radio operator required.

Rules that require FCC station licensees to have certain transmitter
operation, maintenance, and repair duties performed by a commercial
radio operator are contained in parts 23, 80, and 87 of this chapter.

[63 FR 68942, Dec. 14, 1998]

Part 23: International Fixed Public Radiocommunications Services
Part 80: Stations in the Maritime Services
Part 87: Aviation Services

 

[radiosaur]

I now maintain ground based aviation comms and navigation stations. First Phone is still required...and the FAA checks it.