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February Ratings

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aindik

12+ ratings posted here:
http://www.radio-info.com/site/markets/grid/philadelphia

WRFF is No. 5 with a 4.7, up from a 4.3 last month. Top rated rock station in the market. Amazing. Their cume is only 100k people higher than WYSP's (890k versus 790k). Yet WYSP has half the share: a 2.3. People are spending time listening to WRFF and not much time listening to WYSP.

B101 back on top, as KYW slips to a 6.9 from a 7.5 and B101 jumps to a 7.0 from a 6.6.

People spending lots of time listening to WDAS. 6.5 share with cume lower than WNUW's and WYSP's. Even more TSL for WPPZ, with only 382,600 cume.
 
RFF has come a long way. Too bad theres no way to rate how many are listening to Y Rock on 88.5 HD2/Internet,thats where alot of missing numbers are. YSP has been struggling for years. I listen to PnS on MMR in the AM then Radio1045 when in the area. Funny how a modern/alternative format is higher than WPHI's Urban format.....why was it Y100 was flipped again??? Good thing I'm not bitter.....have a nice daaayyy ::)
 
It's funny you say that about Y100 flipping because after I saw the ratings yesterday I thought 104.5 is doing great and sounding almost exactly like Y100 did when they flipped. But at the time Radio One felt the need to drown their redheaded step child.

I wonder if it's an absence makes the heart grow fonder type thing and the years of no alt station feed into a need/want for it? Plus at the time of their sign on, I think, WYSP was Free FM.

If Y100 had stayed would they be enjoying such high numbers right now?

I've kind of been hoping Radio 104.5 would have become more full service, morning show, live jocks. But if they keep pulling in these numbers, 2 jocks for 16 hours a day will continue to be the status quo.
 
evolve991 said:
RFF has come a long way. Too bad theres no way to rate how many are listening to Y Rock on 88.5 HD2/Internet,thats where alot of missing numbers are. YSP has been struggling for years. I listen to PnS on MMR in the AM then Radio1045 when in the area. Funny how a modern/alternative format is higher than WPHI's Urban format.....why was it Y100 was flipped again??? Good thing I'm not bitter.....have a nice daaayyy ::)
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I assume WXPN is encoding their HD-2 station, and its internet stream, for PPMs. Terrestrial stations certainly allowed to do that and I don't know why WXPN wouldn't.

It doesn't show up in the ratings. Which means, really, there aren't that many people listening to it. (Unless they're not encoding it).
 
YRock on 88.5-HD2 is probably encoding. (Arbitron PPM encoding equipment is free from Arbitron), not sure if Arbitron sends out the free stuff to encode HD2 channels for their internet streams. XPN 88.5 would get one for the primary signal's web stream though, Arbitron has just started reporting on web stream data separately.

But how many normal people do you know have an HD radio? I know of 3 (including myself, well 1 more that would have never listened (my mom)). But the regular three, Myself who's a former PD in Philly, my former GM, and our consultant (all of which ineligible to carry a PPM anyway).

I listen to Yrock when in front of my HD radio. Hard to tell how many people have the chance to hear it all unless you turn on the stream, but you can tune in analog on Wed, Thur, Friday night on 88.5, I think 8-11p.

Y100 was a great station. Very hard to say how it would be programmed today, in this day's market, very different Alt music today, but I'm sure if Jim McGuinn was there like when it left the air it would still sound great. And nothing like WRFF, much more new music, less Active Rock stuff, and more than just 2 (3) friendly voices. Almost like he left yrock now.

Y100 was changed not because of lack of revenue, but because of Radio One's own mission statement that supports urban music. It was kept on air for a long while because it made money, but the mission statement took over, which is obviously not alt rock.

The only alternative now... WRFF....
 
buffalotom said:
If Y100 had stayed would they be enjoying such high numbers right now?
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It's hard to tell. "Agenda" aside, how was Radio One to know that the rock-friendly PPM system would be coming to the market in about ten years' time - let alone that such a system would be rock-friendly?
 
quadpain said:
Y100 was a great station. Very hard to say how it would be programmed today, in this day's market, very different Alt music today, but I'm sure if Jim McGuinn was there like when it left the air it would still sound great. And nothing like WRFF, much more new music, less Active Rock stuff, and more than just 2 (3) friendly voices. Almost like he left yrock now.
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I remember enjoying Y100 on my trips through Philly a few years ago. After reading this thread, I was interested in how Y100's playlist actually looked, so I checked Mediabase for a random day shortly before they flipped. I found Y100 to be very active leaning, though I know they also leaned very pop at some points too:

Thursday 11/11/04, 6p hour
System of Down - Chop Suey!
Modest Mouse - Ocean Breathes Salty
Trapt - Headstrong
Smashing Pumpkins - Disarm
Chevelle- Vitamin R
Metallica - The Memory Remains
U2 - Sometimes You Can't Make It
Breaking Benjamin - So Cold
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Love Rollercoaster
U2 - Love And Peace or else
Green Day - She
Velvet Revolver - Fall to Pieces

Aside from the U2 (it looks like a new cd was released that day), this station looks very Active Rock leaning, with some Modest Mouse to throw you off a bit.

Also, now that PPM has been launched in most major markets, have we seen any indication that rock has been favored? I still see a lot of Alternative stations with floundering ratings.
 
buffalotom said:
It's funny you say that about Y100 flipping because after I saw the ratings yesterday I thought 104.5 is doing great and sounding almost exactly like Y100 did when they flipped. But at the time Radio One felt the need to drown their redheaded step child.

radio 104.5 sounds nothing like Y100

Y100 was live and local 24-7 as to where radio 104.5 is voicetracked
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Mike said:
buffalotom said:
It's funny you say that about Y100 flipping because after I saw the ratings yesterday I thought 104.5 is doing great and sounding almost exactly like Y100 did when they flipped. But at the time Radio One felt the need to drown their redheaded step child.

radio 104.5 sounds nothing like Y100

Y100 was live and local 24-7 as to where radio 104.5 is voicetracked
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Please try to close your quote tags so we can see who wrote what.
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1045 has better ratings than Y ever did, I loved Y but sometimes they went off the deep with talk and music, I would much rather hear layed back Johnny and Rollins than Cord and Electra yikes...and we all know why R1 pulled the plug on Y and it was not because of ratings... "we all know what the deal really was"......
 
When 104.5 was Sunny, it didn't do so well even during Christmas. Now, it's like Christmas all year for 104.5.
They picked up the GRock listeners who listened on 106.5.
Y100 could have had 104.5's current rating if it had stayed as Y100.
 
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