How do you all feel about other cities markets and their stations do you envy them? Do you envy cities such as:
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Not any more. Anywhere I go, radio sounds the same. The same computer-generated music formats. The same satellite fed talk shows. A few local hosts in morning drive with the same consultants and the same prep services. Radio isn't really local these days.
I travel quite a bit and have to agree that all major markets sound the same to me also. Same tired music formats, same-old nationally syndicated conservative talking heads and nothing local.
It's interesting to note that WPHT just moved Chris Stigall from Kansas City to Philadelphia but you'd never know it from his initial show. I'll give him time, but my first impression is that he's working from the same conservative talking points. I'm just getting tired of this constant echo-chamber of hyper-conservative talk. Since 7:30am to now (8:25am) he has yet to take a single local caller. He's currently attacking Keith Obermann and defending Chris Christie, something that's been repeated all over the holiday.
If anyone from WPHT reads this... why did you bother moving this guy from Kansas City? An ISDN data line from K.C. would have been cheaper.
It's interesting to note that WPHT just moved Chris Stigall from Kansas City to Philadelphia but you'd never know it from his initial show. I'll give him time, but my first impression is that he's working from the same conservative talking points. I'm just getting tired of this constant echo-chamber of hyper-conservative talk. Since 7:30am to now (8:25am) he has yet to take a single local caller. He's currently attacking Keith Obermann and defending Chris Christie, something that's been repeated all over the holiday.
If anyone from WPHT reads this... why did you bother moving this guy from Kansas City? An ISDN data line from K.C. would have been cheaper.
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This is very true. In addition to working in the industry, I used to be an avid DXer. No more. There's nothing different to hear in other markets - unless you catch a particularly good Canadian station.
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Re: Chris Stigall. Why would they hire someone who did well with a particular style show (regardless of whether it's "talking points" or something else) and have him do something else? They hired him to do here what he did there. Over time, sure, one would reasonably expect him to add more local flavor, but on day one--or week or month one for that matter--it's not likely he's going to get into the finer points of the local political (or cultural) landscape.
imhomerjay - Well, he did add some co-hosts that were barely heard today, so I'm sure he's going to have to work out the kinks in his format. My primary criticism was that his particular approach to talk radio is nothing new. If you like Hannity/Rush/Beck then you will be comfortable with Chris, but I doubt you'll hear anything new or compelling. He's now been put into the key morning drive timeslot where he's going to have to find an audience quickly. Time will tell, but I just didn't hear anything new or compelling.
I'm lucky to be in the NY Market. And yes that is true.
I don't think Philly's radio market is that bad except for two notable exceptions:
Q102, IMO, sucks as a CHR. Too much syndications and the jocks have little personality. I honestly think that Harrisburg's little Kiss clone (WHKF) sounds better. At least they have mixshows for crying out loud.
Also, I'm still hoping Philly lands a KTU-style Rhythmic AC.
Q102, IMO, sucks as a CHR. Too much syndications and the jocks have little personality. I honestly think that Harrisburg's little Kiss clone (WHKF) sounds better. At least they have mixshows for crying out loud.
Also, I'm still hoping Philly lands a KTU-style Rhythmic AC.
I would agree that radio, in general, is no longer all that interesting. Geez...after 40 years in the business and even longer as a radio junkie, I can't believe I just wrote that. But, it is true: radio has - especially in major markets - become comparatively bland compared to what it once was. Too generic; too much of "the same old same old." With the amount of money at stake everyone plays it safe.
These days I find that the most interesting radio is coming from some of the small "mom and pop" broadcasters in smaller and rural markets; stations that still connect to the local community. There are still a lot of them out there, if you look. OK, so a lot of those mom and pop stations may not sound as "professional" as the big boys, but that - in and of itself - is what helps make them interesting. They can be quirky, off-beat, and often totally void of any formatic sophistication.
Most of you don't know that from 2000-2004 I spent four years in Appalachia (SW Virginia to be more precise) doing ministry in a small, rather poor, congregation. Radio paid the bills. I had A LOT of time in that period to listen to what we would call "small-time" radio. A lot of those tiny stations had more connection to their communities than some of the top-rated stations in any top 10 market. I also managed one of those stations (WABN, Abingdon, VA). We did everything from high school sports to broadcasting local music festivals to street fairs. There were other small-town stations like WLRV in Lebanon, VA that did lots of in studio and outside broadcasts that were live, and VERY local.
As I said, a lot of what could be heard was not of the highest "professional" quality as we define it in major market radio. But such stations had something personal and unique. They didn't sound like all of the generic sounding stations that NYC, Philly, LA, Chicago, et al promulgate. They are indivual entities with their own personality.
WABC did not sound like WFIL, which did not sound like WKBW, which did not sound like WCFL, etc. It saddens me that radio has become so bland and predictable.
These days I find that the most interesting radio is coming from some of the small "mom and pop" broadcasters in smaller and rural markets; stations that still connect to the local community. There are still a lot of them out there, if you look. OK, so a lot of those mom and pop stations may not sound as "professional" as the big boys, but that - in and of itself - is what helps make them interesting. They can be quirky, off-beat, and often totally void of any formatic sophistication.
Most of you don't know that from 2000-2004 I spent four years in Appalachia (SW Virginia to be more precise) doing ministry in a small, rather poor, congregation. Radio paid the bills. I had A LOT of time in that period to listen to what we would call "small-time" radio. A lot of those tiny stations had more connection to their communities than some of the top-rated stations in any top 10 market. I also managed one of those stations (WABN, Abingdon, VA). We did everything from high school sports to broadcasting local music festivals to street fairs. There were other small-town stations like WLRV in Lebanon, VA that did lots of in studio and outside broadcasts that were live, and VERY local.
As I said, a lot of what could be heard was not of the highest "professional" quality as we define it in major market radio. But such stations had something personal and unique. They didn't sound like all of the generic sounding stations that NYC, Philly, LA, Chicago, et al promulgate. They are indivual entities with their own personality.
WABC did not sound like WFIL, which did not sound like WKBW, which did not sound like WCFL, etc. It saddens me that radio has become so bland and predictable.
Radio's an aging technology, but it's the one that we grew up with and the one that developed our appreciation of unique and interesting programming. The economics of the business today doesn't allow that super-local approach in most cases, and audiences have generally gravitated toward more regional and national offerings, but that doesn't mean that local programming can't find an audience via internet streaming. Unfortunately those small mom 'n pop quirky terrestrial outlets usually can't afford web streaming, so those of us outside their limited signal pattern can't hear them, but if they can still pay the bills with a terrestrial-only signal, more power to them (pun untended).
More often, the remaining mom 'n pop/community stations like the revived WPAZ are a labor of love rather than economically viable concerns.
More often, the remaining mom 'n pop/community stations like the revived WPAZ are a labor of love rather than economically viable concerns.
musichead1029 said:
I believe the term you're looking for is "hobby station."
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