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Fiber Optic phone lines

My local telephone company wants to upgrade the copper coming to my house with fiber, any guesses how my Comrex BlueBox will work-better worse no change?
 
Are you sure they are going to take the copper out? I always thought the fiber was used for very fast internet so the phone company can side step the cable franchise exclusivity and offer IPTV (internet protocol TV). My sister has the AT&T deal and she likes it a lot better than the cable company. Most phone services for voice are by limited by and old (pre breakup) AT&T definition of 4K* or less, so in less your unit hates extra bandwidth, you will not notice a change if they fiber your POTS (plain old telephone service). Your "box' from the phone company will supply the ring voltage rather than the old copper plant.


* the 4K came from the old frequency based multiplexers which had 4K frequency "slots" in the old microwave systems I worked on the ones the DOD bought from Western Electric (AT&T). Fiber and improved time based multiplexing changed everything. A local connection (in the same exchange) sometimes has better response.
 
I'd be cautious because you may have some problems.

The POTS codecs, such as the Bluebox, contain a modem that works well over the existing CSD (circuit switched data) networks. However, if the fiber is actually part of the newer PSD (packet switched data) networks, which it may be, your Bluebox will no doubt have issues. You'll need to ask the phone company whether you're moving to the PSD networks.

Good luck. Let us know how it turns out.
 
AT&T is NOT fiber, it is a more modern version of DSL that runs over copper.

If it is Verizon, they will rip the copper out when they are done.
 
w00t, it depends on where you are.

In my neighborhood, AT&T is selling a Fiber to the house solution that replaces cable and the copper POTS loop. I inquired about it, but at the time they required that you have a credit (not debit) card to subscribe. I refuse to have a credit card, so it's AT&T DSL for me...
 
Well I will be darned. I didn't know they were doing that now. I'm in a Century market, not BellSouth, and haven't kept up.

VDSL was a horrible product so it's good they've seen the err of their way.

Does AT&T also rip the copper out when they install FTTH?
 
Regarding the switch from copper to fiber lines at my house, it almost sounds like I have no choice. The phone company Verizon wants to upgrade--no charge, they are calling it 'fiber" to the house. They are not calling it VOIP, Comrex tells me they are working on a new product that is designed for VOIP-sounds like the Access with an upgade for a phone jack. Thanks for all of you thoughts on this-time will tell.
 
w00t said:
Well I will be darned. I didn't know they were doing that now. I'm in a Century market, not BellSouth, and haven't kept up.

VDSL was a horrible product so it's good they've seen the err of their way.

Does AT&T also rip the copper out when they install FTTH?

It depends, the Verizon deal is a real fiber optic cable into your house. AT&T runs fiber to a "box" in your neighborhood, then copper into the house / apartment. "Ripping out" (mining in telecom central offices) is an expense. If the price of copper is high enough, there are access issues (space in conduit) or some kind of local rule or a "property" tax on the outdoor plant, then they will take it out. If they do not have to take out fully depreciated asset they would most likely tag it Retired In Place.
 
The AT&T DSL (former BellSouth market) has been almost 99.9% reliable. A BIG contrast to Time Warner Cable! Plus, AT&T is far less of a monster to deal with than Time Warner.
 
I've been on full Verizon Fios at home since about 2006. I've had no problems when I've had various POTS codec products like Hotline or Bluebox hooked to my home dial up line (usually for testing/shakedown purposes prior to the sports season). I've got a couple of 10+ year old "Ma Bell" style handsets and they work fine.

A Comrex Access on Fios internet works great too.
 
When Verizon installs FiOS, historically they literally yank the copper out of the ground. I suppose it is their way of kissing it goodbye for good (Verizon does not want ANY copper left in the network).
 
They did not at my parent's house. Of course, that could have been that they would have disturbed the lawn at penalty of death from my far too serious about his lawn father.
 
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