another mexican station...if i want to listen to the umpa lumpa music ill move to mexico...cant stand it...hope someone jams there transmitter...hijack it..years ago ,down here in san diego someone didnt like one of the format changes,and hijacked the stations transmitter for a few hrs..way funny...
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They were so many different formats in 2 1/2 years, weren't they?KPWRairchecks said:
Recently, since the 80's move, Movin has been playing a lot of good music that were hits in this market. Some of us argued early on that Movin should either have gone top 40 or play the hits Rick Dees did while he was at KIIS. Based on current ratings, either would have at least made this station a moderate success.
Movin is just poorly programmed, even today. I hope Bonneville takes notice of the ratings though. A gold based Hot AC format, not unlike the current incarnation of Movin but more focused, could kill off Jack and give My some needed competition.
Until then, I'll be looking forward to Pulse 87.7. I'll need to purchase an outside antenna or listen to it on the web to get it at home, though, unlike Movin.
How anyone can suggest that Rick would not WANT to a) say goodbye and b) deliver it live is beyond ridiculous. Come ON.
vonrollskyway1 said:
Mexican stations are in Mexico. This is an American station programming for Hispanics in the US:
That's nice. Except that this station will be a Hot AC, and have the same texture as and English language AC.
It's not on the air, and you have already prejudged it?
That is a Federal crime.
Law breaking is funny?
yes it was way funny. ;Dthe people never got caught.to many spanish stations in los angeles.if someone did hijack there transmitteras a joke,yes its illigal,but its pretty funny..
vonrollskyway1 said:
What a thoughtful comment. Thank you for contributing your insight and adding maturity to the conversation... Not!
Hyjacking a stations transmitter to protest a format change is juvenile and not funny at all.
Egads....
Anyway...this change is the sign of an evolving landscape in Los Angeles.
oh god..no sense of humor..anyways,if someone did hijack there transmitter....hmmmm?????its been done before.. ??? ???Michael Rivers Kramer said:
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He didn't really say goodbye and he certainly didn't do it live. I'd like to hear his reasoning as he still is under contract with Emmis for a few more months. At KIIS, he certainly was live for his last show.d3nnycrane said:
DavidEduardo said:
Hmmm I don't think D.F. (Mexico City) air talent would work in Los Angeles where the majority of mexican immigrants come from the "ranchos" or the outskirts and small towns for you gringos. La Regadera de la Mañana on KSSE was a morning show with D.F. transplants and it never caught on. Patti Lopez might have been a no talent on the Rick Dees show. I wouldn't know since I never listened, but I think in Spanish on LA TV she was great and she's from the area. She would be a good fit with the new Spanish Hot AC format. This won't be "umpa umpa" / accordion mexican music. haha
BC_714 said:
The talent on 97.7 and Joya, the two GRC stations that straddle hot AC, don't sound "chilango" in any way. They just sound good.
Remember, all Mexican TV comes out of Mexico City, and it works.
Of course, I am an alumnus of the Radio Centro organization...
I don't see a major hole between KSSE and KLVE. The two combine for about 5.5 shares 25-54 - while KMVN was right around a 2.5. If 93.9 gets even half of those numbers (not likely) - they'd be around a 2.7.
Considering the power ratios on a Spanish-language AC, I have a hard time believing this format will generate more revenue than Movin' would have long term.
They are likely going to have to put KSSE out of business to succeed at any level.
Considering the power ratios on a Spanish-language AC, I have a hard time believing this format will generate more revenue than Movin' would have long term.
They are likely going to have to put KSSE out of business to succeed at any level.
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Entravision is doing a good job of that to the Super Estrella format by themselves.Radioresearcher said:
You keep comparing the spanish formats to Movin's numbers. This is a distress sale by Emmis, gives them instant cash which they are desperate for and removes a direct competitor to their other property. At this time, they couldn't get a better deal but again, since they have been looking to unload this turkey for over a year, their timing was off. That seems to be way Emmis operates. They never get it right.
Emmis could never had made anything out of the numbers they were getting. Dees himself was a budget killer. Just hope another company sees the numbers and does something similar but more professional and focused.
Nena is on the air now so I guess there will be a last hour on-air person. She's horrible. She doesn't talk much which is a good thing.
4UH8SIMBKAGN said:
Nena is actually quite good for the target; I kind of enjoy her. She relates, she's real and is not reding liner cards. You'd rather have a deep voiced puker?
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She sucks and certainly does not relate to the 80's music or know it what-so-ever and has proven so with her lack of knowledge of it in past weeks (nothing like mispronouncing Der Kommissar on a Los Angeles radio station). At least someone like Clarence Barnes knows the music and the format.DavidEduardo said:
She needs to be strictly formated on liner cards. She can't handle anything more. The only person that could shape her up is Jhani Kaye.
4UH8SIMBKAGN said:
Your post reinforces an opinion that many of my friends and co-workers talk about all the time. There are really bad jocks all over the world of radio today so you could be describing most of the talent that has come into the business from the mid 80's on. It started with the FCC eliminating the testing and license process. Licensing not only forced education about the engineering aspects of the business but in doing so many got their radio educations at facilities that also taught one how to do radio in general. There aren’t that many schools teaching radio commercially and the same goes for colleges and universities.
When you couple this with a lack of programmers who have on air experience, or for that matter the education level necessary to teach others how it’s done you end up with the problems we have today. Radio was full of PD’s who could tell you not only what you were doing wrong, but how to fix your faults too. I assume that you mention Jhani Kaye because he’s one of the last of the PD’s from the era when programmers were able to shape a host’s on air talents. The only problem with Kaye is that in many instances he just scripts everything out. It works for the station, but does the talent learn anything from it? Funny mention about reading 3 by 5 cards, that’s NEVER been considered a positive. As for a deep voiced puker, having a deep voice used to be more of the norm and there’s nothing wrong with it. Besides I’ve heard pukers of every type, big voice, small voice and everything in between. The voice has no bearing on it.
Back to Movin, their problem besides a poorly thought out format was not hiring enough talent with experience until it was too late. Clarence Barnes should have been a full timer from the start. Then again Movin wasn’t too worried about getting a staff together when it debuted. This is a mistake made by many stations when they change formats. In the past stations came on with new formats and a full staff that had experience and at many properties they did dry runs before ever going on air to be sure they were getting it right. Most stations do not sign on with a fully realized staff in today’s radio world. It’s like staging an expensive Broadway production and not hiring all of the actors and crew until it’s already on stage in front of an audience. It’s just another sad aspect of the business in the twenty first century.
Never heard Nena before and I enjoyed her as well David. I think there were some latino personalities on Movin that can relate to the chicano and mexican immigrant audience of SoCal rather than using jocks from Mexico City that don't know Inglewood from East Los and live in Polanco.. Rick Dees wishing Grupo Radio Centro success right now.
As predicted, Donna Summer and Last Dance at 11:59-
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After a repeat of Rick Dees pre-recorded piece from this morning.DavidEduardo said:
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TV is different David because Televisa novelas are produced to cater to audiences all over the world. The settings of Televisa novelas aren't all in Mexico City. They film them and the story lines are from different parts of Mexico and immigrants identify with. Anyway, I agree that Grupo Radio Centro does a great job in the stations they program in Mexico. We'll see who they hire as on-air talent. Last Dance was the last song on Movin 93.9
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