FINNERAN ENABLER OF ALLEGEDLY DRUNK AND DRUGGED FIREMAN?

[Casablanca]

Interesting that Tom Finneran would only discuss the autopsy reports on those two firemen without revealing what was already published in the Boston Globe and Herald as well on his own WRKO news that is that one fireman had a blood alcohol level over 2.0 % and the other had traces of cocaine in his blood.

His discussion was equivalent to being half pregnant.

If Tom Finneran wants to censor the news than he does not belong in the communications business least of all talk radio.

Perhaps, Finneran went into a reflex action of the days when he was Mista Speaka and he could sweep corruption and illegality under the State House rug never to be seen again.

That is not how talk radio works. At its best talk radio hosts are muckrackers to quote Jerry Williams.

Prior restraint has no place in the courts nor on talk radio.

 

[Infidel]

one fireman had a blood alcohol level over 2.0 %

Time for a fact check!

 

[Casablanca]

Exactly! The decimal point was obviously in the wrong place. He had a blood/alcohol level of . 27%. The other would have probably killed him from alcohol poisoning. Sorry, for the error.

one fireman had a blood alcohol level over 2.0 %

Time for a fact check!

 

[Infidel]

Good one, only Keith Richards and Ted Kennedy could survive a 2.0 !!!

 

[Casablanca]

We'll cross that bridge when we come to it...

Good one, only Keith Richards and Ted Kennedy could survive a 2.0 !!!

 

[jane grant]

Never listen to Finneran anymore, no point to it, he is as awful as his ratings reflect.

BUT - if what Casablanca says is true (and who do not listen have no reason to doubt), Finneren's as bad as former State Rep Carole A. Donovan (her initials are CAD for a reason!) praising the late firefighter
Patrick V. Pappas. Hey, what's wrong with a class A narcotic if you are friends with politicians!

Back in January of 1998 the above referenced firefighter from the next town over, Woburn, died from a heroin overdose. Weird that this is the only posting I could find on the web:

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cach...+overdose+Fire+Dept.&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

Firefighter's death, drugs shock friends

Woburn inquiry centers on potent powdered heroin

By Francie Latour, Globe Staff and Thomas Grillo Globe
Correspondent, 01/19/98

WOBURN - From emergency medical workers with whom he
helped save lives, to local Vietnam veterans who stood
with him in war, those who knew Woburn firefighter Patrick
V. Pappas found it painful to speak his name and
''heroin'' in the same sentence yesterday.

Yet even as family and friends reeled from Pappas's death
Friday, a potent, white-powder form of the drug became the
focus of an investigation into the death of the 47-year-
old husband and father of three.

 

[rockababy]

I heard about 40 seconds of that fiasco this morning, tuned in when Wendy big mouth Murphy was screaming and I do mean SCREAMING at a caller, I didn't know what hit me,,,,turned the station immediately! What fiasco........... ???

 

[NHRonin]

Finneran is still on?

 

[bjohns]

Can we all agree that Finneran is the worst talk host in a major market in America? Has anyone heard anything worse in a top 20 market?

 

[ChrisNH]

The absolute BEST part of Finneran's show is that his bad ratings make it crystal-clear that he's a bad radio host. No curtain to hide behind there; the two go hand-in-hand. Not like the old days when a bad politician could just keep going & going & going thanks to hacks and patronage and political thuggery (See: Kennedy, Kerry, et al).

 

[Finn]

The absolute BEST part of Finneran's show is that his bad ratings make it crystal-clear that he's a bad radio host. No curtain to hide behind there; the two go hand-in-hand. Not like the old days when a bad politician could just keep going & going & going thanks to hacks and patronage and political thuggery (See: Kennedy, Kerry, et al).

What bad ratings? Do you have ratings specifically for his time slot? Last ratings period shows WRKO holding at 6th, WBZ dropping from 2 to 3, and WTKK dropping from 13 to 14th for 12+ overall station. http://www.radio-info.com/content/arbitron.php?market=011

Now, I'm not saying Finneran doesn't have bad ratings. I think he very well might and that the his drop is offset by the bounce from the Red Sox. But, I don't have the data to show it, and quite frankly, I don't think you do either. If you can reference the facts, I think we'd all be interested in seeing them.

If you are presenting something for which you have no evidence, then I suggest, for the sake of your own credibility, that you present it as a hunch, prediction, suspicion, projection, bet, or other that shows us that you know the difference between fact, hypothesis, theory and opinion.

Don't you think you undermine the conservative point of view when you do otherwise?

 

[dumber than a box of hair]

Do you have ratings specifically for his time slot?

Can't quote specific ratings figures, but here's how WRKO ranks in mornings:

Adults 12+: Tied with WKLB for seventh. Behind WBZ, Kiss, Dennis & Callahan, Jammin', Loren & Wally and Magic. 96.9 is ninth.

Adults 35-64: Twelfth. Behind WBZ, Dennis & Callahan, Loren & Wally, Kiss, WKLB, Dale Dorman, WZLX, Magic, 96.9, Mike and WCRB.

Adults 25-54: 15th. 96.9 is 13th.

 

[Finn]

Do you have ratings specifically for his time slot?

Can't quote specific ratings figures, but here's how WRKO ranks in mornings:

Adults 12+: Tied with WKLB for seventh. Behind WBZ, Kiss, Dennis & Callahan, Jammin', Loren & Wally and Magic. 96.9 is ninth.

Adults 35-64: Twelfth. Behind WBZ, Dennis & Callahan, Loren & Wally, Kiss, WKLB, Dale Dorman, WZLX, Magic, 96.9, Mike and WCRB.

Adults 25-54: 15th. 96.9 is 13th.

Well there you go. Of course, as a skeptic I have to point out that we don't know who you are or what axe you have to grind. But, my hunch is that (see, I don't know for sure...) you're telling the truth and these are facts, so now ChrisNH can HAVE AT IT and his reputation will not suffer. (Assuming he is concerned about his reputation) ;D

By the way, do you happen to know the WRKO rankings for the morning show BF (before Finneran?)

 

[TSBench]

By the way, do you happen to know the WRKO rankings for the morning show BF (before Finneran?)

If I recall correctly the raw numbers being tossed around earlier in the spring, Miller had 27,000 A25-54s his last exclusive month on the air. Finneran had 43,000 after his first full exclusive month.

Regards.
TSB

 

[Finn]

By the way, do you happen to know the WRKO rankings for the morning show BF (before Finneran?)

If I recall correctly the raw numbers being tossed around earlier in the spring, Miller had 27,000 A25-54s his last exclusive month on the air. Finneran had 43,000 after his first full exclusive month.

Regards.
TSB

Holy Switcheroo, Batman!!!

Isn't 43,000 MORE than 27,000 ???!!!!!!

http://n.1asphost.com/ukbatmania/hereos/robin_holy.htm

 

[TSBench]

By the way, do you happen to know the WRKO rankings for the morning show BF (before Finneran?)

If I recall correctly the raw numbers being tossed around earlier in the spring, Miller had 27,000 A25-54s his last exclusive month on the air. Finneran had 43,000 after his first full exclusive month.

Regards.
TSB

Holy Switcheroo, Batman!!!

Isn't 43,000 MORE than 27,000 ???!!!!!!

http://n.1asphost.com/ukbatmania/hereos/robin_holy.htm

Well, yes, but I haven't run those figures through a Derangement Filter, which I'm sure will show they were all unemployed child molesters.

Regards,
TSB

 

[dumber than a box of hair]

Do you have ratings specifically for his time slot?

Can't quote specific ratings figures, but here's how WRKO ranks in mornings:

Adults 12+: Tied with WKLB for seventh. Behind WBZ, Kiss, Dennis & Callahan, Jammin', Loren & Wally and Magic. 96.9 is ninth.

Adults 35-64: Twelfth. Behind WBZ, Dennis & Callahan, Loren & Wally, Kiss, WKLB, Dale Dorman, WZLX, Magic, 96.9, Mike and WCRB.

Adults 25-54: 15th. 96.9 is 13th.

Well there you go. Of course, as a skeptic I have to point out that we don't know who you are or what axe you have to grind. But, my hunch is that (see, I don't know for sure...) you're telling the truth and these are facts, so now ChrisNH can HAVE AT IT and his reputation will not suffer. (Assuming he is concerned about his reputation) ;D

No axe here. BTW, source is Arbitron, via the Tapscan software.

By the way, do you happen to know the WRKO rankings for the morning show BF (before Finneran?)

If we look at the Spring 2006 book (as Bill Drake so famously said: "One year ago today!"):

Adults 12+: Eighth, 0.1 share points behind Spring 2007. Behind WBZ, Kiss, Jammin', Dennis & Callahan, Loren & Wally, Magic and Dale Dorman.

Adults 35-64: 13th, 0.2 share points behind Spring 2007. Behind WBZ, Loren & Wally, Dennis & Callahan, Magic, Dale Dorman, Kiss, 96.9, WKLB, Mike, WCRB, WZLX and Mix 98.5.

Adults 25-54: 16th, 0.1 share points behind Spring 2007. 96.9 was tied for 12th.

Cliff's Notes: In share points or rankings, not much difference at all.

 

[Finn]

okay, so just because I'm a little slow here, I'm going to restate it. Please tell me if I'm missing something...

Sprint 2006 to 2007
Adults 25-54:
WRKO went from 16th to 15th
WTKK went from 12th to 13th

Adults 35-64:
WRKO went from 13th to 12th
WTKK went from 7th to 9th

This is of course mostly post-Imus, pre-Howie...

 

[dumber than a box of hair]

okay, so just because I'm a little slow here, I'm going to restate it. Please tell me if I'm missing something...

Sprint 2006 to 2007
Adults 25-54:
WRKO went from 16th to 15th
WTKK went from 12th to 13th

Adults 35-64:
WRKO went from 13th to 12th
WTKK went from 7th to 9th

This is of course mostly post-Imus, pre-Howie...

Looks pretty accurate to me.

 

[Finn]

dumber, thanks for supplying the data.

what can't be determined of course if what would have happened had the Imus implosion not happened. in terms of ad sales, doesn't really matter, WRKO up year on year. But, in terms of evaluating Finneran as a talk show host, wouldn't we need to see if the year-on-year trend is up? and, doesn't it really take a year to really know what you've got?

if not, would love to hear what the appropriate criteria are...

anyone?