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Fire coverage thread

Hopefully this horrible bunch of fires will encourage the study, learning and implementation of better forest management practices. In particular, improved forest thinning, better undergrowth policing and trimming or removal of weak old growth.
Down here in Australia Autumn (Fall)/Winter has traditionally been a time for back burning and other management. Over the past few years it has become increasingly obvious that there is now no clear fire season, because weather patterns have changed. So, windows of time to do what is needed are getting smaller.
 
What I get from the Telsa upgrade is this. We sold you something in your car and have made it obsolete. Whats next the wipers, door locks, window controls?
This attitude is infecting everything. People buy OTT streaming media players, and after five years, an "upgrade" occurs disabling one of its features that the manufacturer no longer wants to support. Someone buys a smart TV, and a few years later, a message appears on-screen telling customers they must agree to new terms of service. Refuse, and your television won't work anymore -- you now own a brick.

We desperately need consumer protection laws that make it illegal to remotely remove or degrade the features of internet-connected products post-sale. Whatever you are sold in terms of its capabilities, speed, and quality, you should expect to be able to keep, and not have wrenched from your hands by remote product "updates." This law should also protect from in-person variations of this, where you find yourself having the software or hardware guts of something swapped out to obtain a [potentially necessary] update, only to be forced to consent to giving up something (or certain characteristics of something) that you previously had in whatever's being replaced. This crap has to stop. If companies want to offer true upgrades that improve existing features or add new ones, and possibly charge for them, that's their choice. But you shouldn't be able to sell people books written in disappearing ink -- or hardware/software upgrades that are really downgrades, or refurbs that take you to the next model down.
 

Here is a clip where David Muir tours some of the wildfire scenes around LA with CalFire.
Was this before or after he fashioned himself with a clothespin?


But at least this "faux pas" won't cost ABC $16 million.
 
Was this before or after he fashioned himself with a clothespin?


But at least this "faux pas" won't cost ABC $16 million.

The clothespin, as any TV photog will tell you, is to keep the jacket, which has a lavalier mic attached, from flapping around in high winds and interfering with the audio.

Typical New York Post/Murdoch horseshit, aimed at an audience they know won’t take five seconds on Google to look up the facts.
 
That use of the word "upgraded" to describe an update that reduces functionality seems Orwellian.
Indeed.

What I get from the Telsa upgrade is this. We sold you something in your car and have made it obsolete. Whats next the wipers, door locks, window controls?
Yeah, right! Pretty soon, they'll decide that they want to sell customers a completely new model that renders everything else obsolete, and they'll force the issue by purposely sending update that permanently bricks their older cars.

Several months ago, in the threads where the mandatory AM in cars bill was being talked about, I was evangelizing the heck out of the idea that the bill's authors were making a huge mistake not including FM in the mandate. Now, here we are. It's beginning. :(
Yes, absolutely. Unlike AM, there's still a fairly large consensus that FM's got some good life left in it, so to start removing that seems premature, but, Tesla gets to do to its customers what it pleases, because they don't care.

Brentwood, CA
So, to be clear, there are two Brentwoods in CA that I know of: the one in LA obviously, but also the community in the far East SFBA. Are they both incorporated as cities, or is the LA Brentwood simply a neighborhood that's within the City proper?

The clothespin, as any TV photog will tell you, is to keep the jacket, which has a lavalier mic attached, from flapping around in high winds and interfering with the audio.

Typical New York Post/Murdoch horseshit, aimed at an audience they know won’t take five seconds on Google to look up the facts.
This explanation makes sense!

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The clothespin, as any TV photog will tell you, is to keep the jacket, which has a lavalier mic attached, from flapping around in high winds and interfering with the audio.

Typical New York Post/Murdoch horseshit, aimed at an audience they know won’t take five seconds on Google to look up the facts.
I actually read about five stories from different sources across the reporting political spectrum and none mentioned this. Not saying you are not correct, but in this case it was not for lack of research on the poster's part. I have also not noted it on any other on-scene reporter and have watched for it over the last few days since the story broke, just for that reason.

Also, there is no doubt about the $16 million worth of snark I included, regardless of source.
 
This CBS Austin story was actually produced by TNND---The National News Desk, a news division of Sinclair Broadcast Group, which is generally considered to lean right:

"A source familiar with Muir’s field reporting told The National News Desk (TNND), however, the clothespins were being used purposefully given the high winds in the area.

“This was 30 seconds before air, a producer stepped in to try to fix the coat in the wind,” the source said. “This had nothing to do with David Muir asking for anything.”

The source also mentioned Muir’s jacket was fixed to ensure it wasn’t creating noise during the shot."

 
A pro explains:


The Post and all too much of the internet decided to make a thing out of a guy without knowing what they were talking about (actually, I'm sure the Post knows, but really doesn't care).
This is a controversy? Really? As if there were no wars in the world. As if thousands of people hadn't lost their homes. As if some people hadn't died in these fires.
 
Must see video below. It illustrates better than any I've seen thus far why this firestorm's savage outcome wasn't the fault of any empty fire hydrants, failures to maintain brush clearance, forest thinning, underfunded fire departments, or whatever else have you political.


In conditions like this, the only thing any firefighter would be able to do is get out fast. Most of their hoses' water would have simply blown away mid-stream, never even reaching the flames.
 
So, to be clear, there are two Brentwoods in CA that I know of: the one in LA obviously, but also the community in the far East SFBA. Are they both incorporated as cities, or is the LA Brentwood simply a neighborhood that's within the City proper?

Brentwood in Southern California is a neighborhood in the City of Los Angeles. So there's only one "official" Brentwood---the one fewer people are familiar with.

L.A. has a ton of these. Watts is a neighborhood, as is Westchester, Canoga Park, Eagle Rock, Encino, Granada Hills, Hollywood, Playa Del Rey and Van Nuys. They're all within the City of Los Angeles.
 
Physical transmitters/channels 22 (6-* and 54-*) and 27 (14-* and 27-*), which were previously broadcasting black (apparent dead STLs), went off-air this morning and then returned with full programming. All that remains MIA from Mt. Wilson now is KFLA-8, whose RF output is still zero.
 
This is a controversy? Really? As if there were no wars in the world. As if thousands of people hadn't lost their homes. As if some people hadn't died in these fires.
The pin itself is not the issue.

The issue is, is David Muir a "real newsman" who is going to give it to us straight or is he a star desk reporter flying in from New York and taking a helicopter ride simply for a photo op, like others have done with major stories before him, notably Brian Williams?

Many people are questioning his neutrality this year after his performance in the Presidential debate where he "fact-checked" Trump multiple times, yet didn't do the same for Harris, even after she posited (just as one example of which he should have had first-hand knowledge) that there were no US troops in a war zone overseas. Tell that to the troops stationed in Iraq and Syria, who are constantly fired upon.

Personally, I feel that he is photo-op hound, and the clip story is small, anecdotal evidence of that; I am not making a big deal of it. Note that the story didn't start with Murdoch media outlets (to my knowledge); it was noted by multiple people on social media almost as soon as it happened and it went "viral" from there, so some people did feel it is a relevant topic.

If he is a legitimate reporter doing legitimate unbiased reporting, so be it. But ABC has plenty of resources reporting on the story, and him flying in and making sure his helicopter ride is recorded and put online only reinforces my suspicions of him as a reporter. My opinion; I am allowed to have it.
 
Was this before or after he fashioned himself with a clothespin?


But at least this "faux pas" won't cost ABC $16 million.
What about all the female local TV news anchors dressed like they are about to go out clubbing or high class call girls. It seems like a prerequisite to being hired is how shapely and beautiful they are. I would love to see an ordinary looking person deliver the news on local TV one of these days!
 
Brentwood in Southern California is a neighborhood in the City of Los Angeles. So there's only one "official" Brentwood---the one fewer people are familiar with.

L.A. has a ton of these. Watts is a neighborhood, as is Westchester, Canoga Park, Eagle Rock, Encino, Granada Hills, Hollywood, Playa Del Rey and Van Nuys. They're all within the City of Los Angeles.
Confusingly to people that don't live here, your mailing address may have the name of one of these neighborhoods rather than "Los Angeles."
 
What about all the female local TV news anchors dressed like they are about to go out clubbing or high class call girls. It seems like a prerequisite to be hired is how shapely and beautiful they are. I would love to see an ordinary looking person deliver the news on local TV one of these days!
I have to agree.

You know the bubble-headed bleach blonde comes on at five.
 
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The pin itself is not the issue.

The issue is, is David Muir a "real newsman" who is going to give it to us straight or is he a star desk reporter flying in from New York and taking a helicopter ride simply for a photo op, like others have done with major stories before him, notably Brian Williams?

Many people are questioning his neutrality this year after his performance in the Presidential debate where he "fact-checked" Trump multiple times, yet didn't do the same for Harris, even after she posited (just as one example of which he should have had first-hand knowledge) that there were no US troops in a war zone overseas (Tell that to the troops stationed in Iraq and Syria, who are constantly fired upon).

Personally, I feel that he is photo-op hound, and the clip story is small, anecdotal evidence of that; I am not making a big deal of it. Note that the story didn't start with Murdoch media outlets (to my knowledge); it was noted by multiple people on social media almost as soon as it happened and it went "viral" from there, so some people did feel it is a relevant topic.

If he is a legitimate reporter doing legitimate unbiased reporting, so be it. But ABC has plenty of resources reporting on the story, and him flying in and making sure his helicopter ride is recorded and put online only reinforces my suspicions of him as a reporter. My opinion; I am allowed to have it.

Okay, again, from the perspective of someone who spent 30 years in TV news, and who covered major wildfires:

When a fire agency (in this case, CAL FIRE) offers you an opportunity to go up and see first hand what you're reporting on, you take it.

Producers make the decisions based on resources and existing circumstances as to who goes up---the anchor, a reporter, a meteorologist or a producer. This time, they chose Muir.

Muir was there all week. He didn't "fly in" for a helicopter ride and he didn't "make sure it was recorded".
 
Okay, again, from the perspective of someone who spent 30 years in TV news, and who covered major wildfires:

When a fire agency (in this case, CAL FIRE) offers you an opportunity to go up and see first hand what you're reporting on, you take it.

Producers make the decisions based on resources and existing circumstances as to who goes up---the anchor, a reporter, a meteorologist or a producer. This time, they chose Muir.

Muir was there all week. He didn't "fly in" for a helicopter ride and he didn't "make sure it was recorded".
I hope all of that is true. I said I have an opinion of him, but I am not unwilling to change it - if the underlying facts support as much. I appreciate your side of story. I will be keeping a closer eye on him going forward.
 
What about all the female local TV news anchors dressed like they are about to go out clubbing or high class call girls. It seems like a prerequisite to being hired is how shapely and beautiful they are. I would love to see an ordinary looking person deliver the news on local TV one of these days!

This is more than a decade old, but it was true decades ago:


A large market news director was once asked why he tended to hire mostly beautiful young women. His answer:

"I can teach a beautiful person how to report. I don't know how to teach a reporter to be beautiful."

In fairness, he really didn't know how to teach some of them to report.
 
I hope all of that is true. I said I have an opinion of him, but I am not unwilling to change it - if the underlying facts support as much. I appreciate your side of story. I will be keeping a closer eye on him going forward.
Flip, here's the thing----I met David Muir once when I was working for an ABC affiliate in Phoenix 15 years ago,

I don't know him. He may be an anchor monster. There are a lot of them.

BUT---neither the clothespin nor the helicopter ride are evidence of that, if he is.
 
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