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Fire coverage thread

Thanks for the great information, @xmtrland.

As an update to post #94, I found someone on Reddit who reported contacting KOCE and being told by station staff that "someone is trying to get up to the towers right now." Source: https://old.reddit.com/r/longbeach/comments/1hxjgd8/all_3_local_pbs_stations_are_down_due_to_fire/

Very interesting (and telling) that, other than the Reddit link above, I also cannot Google any public discussion or news media coverage of this group of stations being off-air for antenna users:

https://www.google.com/search?q="koce"+"klcs"+"kcet"+"eaton"+OR+"fire"

Even searches for their individual callsigns -- e.g. https://www.google.com/search?q="kcet"+"eaton"+OR+"fire"+after:2025-01-08 -- aren't showing any relevant "chatter."
Thank goodness we in the Inland Empire have KVCR-TV 24 (RF 5) which transmits from Box Springs Mountain on the border of Riverside and Moreno Valley
 
I see all theses houses with swimming pools, etc.....couldn't they run a water line from pool up side of house to a....I guess you could call it a trickle hose like gardeners use...across the ridge line and possibly like a small water curtain for the sides? Or tie into your city/county water line, but even I could see what a problem that might be. I could see having a battery operated pump located in a basement [assuming they have basements out there] for power to slowly drain the pool. Or is there some government regulations there telling everyone "NYET!" or just people thinking they'll take there chances cause the added cost is too much? But then again, even doing something like that might be futile in the face of the winds and how ferocious these fires are. And the fact that people tend to like having shrubs/trees close up to the houses. probably doesn't help. Rip me a new one if you must but it seems to me that there should be someway to slow down/mitigate the property loss or loss of precious photos/items, etc.
 
I see all theses houses with swimming pools, etc.....couldn't they run a water line from pool up side of house

Sure, some of them did. Then the wind came through at 70 miles an hour with a blast of flame 30 feet high, and you have a choice: Stand there with your hose or run. That's what happened. These houses were leveled in minutes. They were completely engulfed in flames. A little water hose wasn't going to stop a wall of fire that was bigger than your house.

The problem this time was a combination of fire and wind. They normally get rain in the winter. Not this year. The combination of fire and wind is different. One of my friends who lost his house told me that his neighborhood saw fires many times before. Never with this wind.
 

So far LA County Fire Department has confirmed 10 deaths related to the wildfires. Note the death toll is subject to change once the containment is completed. In past cases we mentioned how Calfire has a preparation and risk reduction plan for residents to slow down the escalation of wildfires. Also in past cases we mentioned that people have died while evacuating from the danger zone from all the other wildfires within the state. It’s a case of we have a risk reduction plan but there are still some deaths that come from both fighting the fires and evacuating from the danger zones.


 
Now that we're a few days removed from the initial fires, we're getting a chance to look at the devastation. Part of what led to the destruction of so many homes was the way these neighborhoods were constructed, with houses being placed close together. KNBC was showing some video of a neighborhood in the Palisades, and that's what stood out. Home after home was leveled to the foundation. Then you'd come to one home that was completely untouched. Why? Because it was surrounded by an 8 foot high concrete wall. The other houses were separated by either plants or wooden fences, neither of which could survive a fire. Most of these houses were over 70 years old. So any new zoning laws likely didn't apply. But clearly they will play a part in any rezoning that happens once the neighborhoods rebuild.

That brings me to another subject that's been brought up in the local coverage: The rebuild. These property owners still own that property even though their homes have been destroyed. They pay taxes on the land. That doesn't stop. There will likely be reassessment now that the home is gone. But the issue for all of these homeowners is do they rebuild, or do they sell to someone else who rebuilds. From what I'm seeing, there is a community group in the Palisades that is trying to control the rebuild process. They're hoping to retain a lot of the original character of the neighborhood. We'll see how successful they are.
 
Now that we're a few days removed from the initial fires, we're getting a chance to look at the devastation. Part of what led to the destruction of so many homes was the way these neighborhoods were constructed, with houses being placed close together. KNBC was showing some video of a neighborhood in the Palisades, and that's what stood out. Home after home was leveled to the foundation. Then you'd come to one home that was completely untouched. Why? Because it was surrounded by an 8 foot high concrete wall. The other houses were separated by either plants or wooden fences, neither of which could survive a fire. Most of these houses were over 70 years old. So any new zoning laws likely didn't apply. But clearly they will play a part in any rezoning that happens once the neighborhoods rebuild.

That brings me to another subject that's been brought up in the local coverage: The rebuild. These property owners still own that property even though their homes have been destroyed. They pay taxes on the land. That doesn't stop. There will likely be reassessment now that the home is gone. But the issue for all of these homeowners is do they rebuild, or do they sell to someone else who rebuilds. From what I'm seeing, there is a community group in the Palisades that is trying to control the rebuild process. They're hoping to retain a lot of the original character of the neighborhood. We'll see how successful they are.
The scariest new words in the English language: "I am from BlackRock and I am here to help."
 
The scariest new words in the English language: "I am from BlackRock and I am here to help."
I get what you mean that was brought up during the 2023 Maui Wildfires and the fear of neighborhood gentrification came into play. But I get it home and fire insurance companies have to answer to investment groups like Blackrock and Vanguard reps who represent some of their board of directors.
 
One adjustment that has been excellent on KNX is turning the midday / afternoon shows into more of a news/talk format rather than the strict KNX clock.

Brian Ping is in studio and writes a tight 90 second headlines newscast. Then it goes to the anchors - Rob Archer, Margaret Carrero, and Charles Feldman to handle the reporters in the field plus lots of long form interviews with elected officials, fire chiefs, etc. With three anchors they can rotate prepping for these interviews and consolidating all the information that's flowing in, while Ping gives the listeners just tuning in the bullet points.
 
Have all tv stations stopped wall to wall coverage?
It was headed in that direction earlier. However, there is now another new fire, the Archer fire, in Granada Hills, and a few stations are now covering it live.

Incidentally, an update on the outages: KOCE and KCET have now returned to the air. However, KABC-7 is still off the air. Additionally, I noticed several hours ago (and still the case now) that KLOS 95.5 is off the air. If they have an operating backup transmitter on-air right now, it isn't receivable at my location -- 95.5 is simply noise. Could this coincidence be down to their former ownership by ABC, and a possible continuing co-location for transmission facilities?
 
It was headed in that direction earlier. However, there is now another new fire, the Archer fire, in Granada Hills, and a few stations are now covering it live.

Incidentally, an update on the outages: KOCE and KCET have now returned to the air. However, KABC-7 is still off the air. Additionally, I noticed several hours ago (and still the case now) that KLOS 95.5 is off the air. If they have an operating backup transmitter on-air right now, it isn't receivable at my location -- 95.5 is simply noise. Could this coincidence be down to their former ownership by ABC, and a possible continuing co-location for transmission facilities?
Yes, KLOS remains co-located with KABC-TV.
 
As I said earlier, fire crews were able to stop the Eaton fire from reaching the radio & TV towers on Mt. Wilson. Here is a summary report on the story:


A spokesman from Audacy tells Inside Radio that the company’s LA radio stations’ over-the-air broadcasts have not been affected by the wildfires so far. Audacy has an auxiliary site for its stations should the Mount Wilson towers be affected by any subsequent flare-ups.
 




Los Angeles Clippers star Kawhi Leonard had to respond to family situation related to the wildfires in the area. Also article notes that Lakers Coach JJ Redick lost his home for the same reasons here.
 
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