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Frankly, I think CBS gaining control of KOMO radio and turning it into something with the standards and style of the other CBS-owned all news stations could be one of the best things to happen in Seattle radio in years.
As I hear it, many of the presenters on KOMO sound like they come from sales or dick jockey backgrounds, not as well-trained journalists with experience from elsewhere. Using TV reports without even a rewrite for radio is another example of how they miss the mark as "all news" of the quality you'll hear on KCBS, KNX, or WCBS. Even their every ten minutes traffic reports are rushed, the reporters have hideous enunciation, and they're rarely much help for me to decide if I should attempt I-5 in the afternoons, if the Mercer Street exit is gridlocked again, or if the so-called "express lane" will be worth it to get me to the airport on time. Paul Tosh iweekdays n the helicopter is great, but at night and on the weekends, it sounds like lightly warmed over leftovers, reading off the DOT website in ten seconds or less.
I still tune over from time to time for few minutes, but find I usually don't come away with much that has satisfied my curiosity, or informed my need to know in any substantive way. In other words, I'm not compelled to tune in frequently, no matter how many spots they run that tell me I should and how much better they are then "that other news station." That's why it sounds like jocks, instead of journalists.
As I hear it, many of the presenters on KOMO sound like they come from sales or dick jockey backgrounds, not as well-trained journalists with experience from elsewhere. Using TV reports without even a rewrite for radio is another example of how they miss the mark as "all news" of the quality you'll hear on KCBS, KNX, or WCBS. Even their every ten minutes traffic reports are rushed, the reporters have hideous enunciation, and they're rarely much help for me to decide if I should attempt I-5 in the afternoons, if the Mercer Street exit is gridlocked again, or if the so-called "express lane" will be worth it to get me to the airport on time. Paul Tosh iweekdays n the helicopter is great, but at night and on the weekends, it sounds like lightly warmed over leftovers, reading off the DOT website in ten seconds or less.
I still tune over from time to time for few minutes, but find I usually don't come away with much that has satisfied my curiosity, or informed my need to know in any substantive way. In other words, I'm not compelled to tune in frequently, no matter how many spots they run that tell me I should and how much better they are then "that other news station." That's why it sounds like jocks, instead of journalists.
I agree on the what I need to know factor. I feel like I am better informed when I watch KOMO-TV than when I listen to KOMO radio. Having never listened to stations like KCBS, I would not know how to correct that. Paul does seem to be the most detailed of KOMO's ttrafic reporters, but I don't see anything wrong with the others.
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searadiofreak
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Fisher could be sold to a major network, but the odds are some medium broadcaster will pick it up. The complications include many small market stations that are, frankly, not that interesting to the major players. However, there could be some negotiation here, and not all Fisher properties may be in play. At the very least, a buyer could buy KOMO and KATU and not the smaller markets. Everything is negotiable. Could be an interesting 2013 for Fisher.
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searadiofreak
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ABC, is really Disney.
So the question does Disney want more local affiatles? Perhaps, they do with Seattle and Portland, both growing markets. An interesting question, and one that will play out in 2013. I think we will hear a yeah or ney by September.
So the question does Disney want more local affiatles? Perhaps, they do with Seattle and Portland, both growing markets. An interesting question, and one that will play out in 2013. I think we will hear a yeah or ney by September.
How do you know Tosh is in a copter?
Secret: he's in a room next door with a phone. That's it. :-X
Secret: he's in a room next door with a phone. That's it. :-X
Yeah, I can see a scenario where Scripps can buy Komo and Katu, especially with their latest tv purchases out west in Kgtv in San Diego and Kmgh in Denver...also, I could see Kiro- TV being a abc affiliate...they could get the "circle 7" logo that all the abc 7's have...that would boost Kiro's ratings up a ton based on that alone...
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crainbebo said:
Well, you may be right, but the people really have little say in this. Fisher will go to whoever gives them the best offer. Network affiliations can and do change for all sorts of reasons.
I'm an admitted graphics geek. One interesting thing is there are very few ABC affiliates on Channel 7 outside of the "owned and operated". Most use some form of the circle 7 logo, in Denver and Omaha is it somewhat modified, and in El Paso it is a red solid circle instead of blue. I could only find a couple ABC affiliates on Channel 7 using a non-circle 7 logo. KIRO's CBS channel logo is in itself a modification of the original circle 7, albeit with different colors.
KIRO's current logo is a modification of its mid-'90s red-and-white one, just with different colors and the gap in the 7 closed up. And the red-and-white logo was a reworking of the short-lived "KIRO News Network" triangle.searadiofreak said:
Sister station WHIO-TV's logo is similar, but it's a lot closer in shape to the classic Circle 7.
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searadiofreak
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Good point, but the circle 7 logo must have been in the graphic design mindset before and after the KIRO "out of the box" disaster of the 90's. Perhaps you can even trace this back to 1969, when KIRO started imitating KABC and others with the "Eyewitness News" format. KIRO, circa 1969-70 looked like a KABC clone, perhaps not with graphics, but with the set and the format.
Also, agree on WHIO Dayton. Very similar look. Perhaps Cox bought this graphics package for all their stations, I have noticed a similar use of color on other Cox stations. (Gold/Blue prominent). Doesn't suit my personal taste, but it is what it is.
Also, agree on WHIO Dayton. Very similar look. Perhaps Cox bought this graphics package for all their stations, I have noticed a similar use of color on other Cox stations. (Gold/Blue prominent). Doesn't suit my personal taste, but it is what it is.
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Well, you may be right, but the people really have little say in this. Fisher will go to whoever gives them the best offer. Network affiliations can and do change for all sorts of reasons.
I'm an admitted graphics geek. One interesting thing is there are very few ABC affiliates on Channel 7 outside of the "owned and operated". Most use some form of the circle 7 logo, in Denver and Omaha is it somewhat modified, and in El Paso it is a red solid circle instead of blue. I could only find a couple ABC affiliates on Channel 7 using a non-circle 7 logo. KIRO's CBS channel logo is in itself a modification of the original circle 7, albeit with different colors.
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Don't forget about Wjla abc 7 in DC which is owned by Albritton, who incorporated the circle 7 logo on agreement about five years ago...then there is also wxyz in Detroit, which used to be owned by abc ( owned by scripps now)....they have always had the circle 7 logo...
Well, you may be right, but the people really have little say in this. Fisher will go to whoever gives them the best offer. Network affiliations can and do change for all sorts of reasons.
I'm an admitted graphics geek. One interesting thing is there are very few ABC affiliates on Channel 7 outside of the "owned and operated". Most use some form of the circle 7 logo, in Denver and Omaha is it somewhat modified, and in El Paso it is a red solid circle instead of blue. I could only find a couple ABC affiliates on Channel 7 using a non-circle 7 logo. KIRO's CBS channel logo is in itself a modification of the original circle 7, albeit with different colors.
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Don't forget about Wjla abc 7 in DC which is owned by Albritton, who incorporated the circle 7 logo on agreement about five years ago...then there is also wxyz in Detroit, which used to be owned by abc ( owned by scripps now)....they have always had the circle 7 logo...
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searadiofreak
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Absolutely, and WXYZ, as you mention, was once an ABC O&O in the Motor City. WJLA in DC never was an O&O but still bought the rights to the logo. Shows the strength of that graphic brand!
I always found that "circle 7"logo on the ABC affiliates like KGO-TV and WABC-TV to be as DATED as logos come. It's STILL looks like something straight out of the early 1970s. And granted, while KING-TV only made minor cosmetic changes to their logo since 1979, it still doesn't look as old as the "ABC 7" logo.....
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"Fisher Communications has announced it will consider selling its radio and television assets as part of a wide array of strategic alternatives..."
http://www.insideradio.com/Article.asp?id=2625326&spid=32061
"Fisher Communications has announced it will consider selling its radio and television assets as part of a wide array of strategic alternatives..."
http://www.insideradio.com/Article.asp?id=2625326&spid=32061
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boiseengineer said:
That press release doesn't say much, but if I can read between the lines, my original thought would seem to be true. Fisher may be split up between the bigger and smaller markets. This would make total sense.
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boiseengineer said:
The only "news" in that story is FrontFour putting up another board fight. Fisher's been through that before - in fact they've been battling with shareholders for nearly a decade.
And if Fisher REALLY did get a $40 million offer - they'd take it.
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EVERY radio station is always up for sale, for the right price.
This whole "we want control" shareholder bull%%%t thing with Fisher is getting VERY old for me. Enough that I seriously am thinking about going to June shareholder meeting with discount coupons for "Babies R Us" to hand out to Lorber and the FrontFour crew....if they are going to ACT like babies let them dress like one (at a sale price).
Where I once cared VERY deeply about locally owned broadcast companies that really had it together, I'm tired of all these Wall Street types or ignorant exectutives (often those two are very tightly coupled) coming in and urinating all over very decent media operations and liquidating what's left for their momentary portfolio orgasm.
Where I once cared VERY deeply about locally owned broadcast companies that really had it together, I'm tired of all these Wall Street types or ignorant exectutives (often those two are very tightly coupled) coming in and urinating all over very decent media operations and liquidating what's left for their momentary portfolio orgasm.
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