FISHING in a Factless Pond

[Rebafan]

Sometimes when ya go fishin' there are facts on the shore handed to you .... and thus starts or continues the rumor and speculation issues.

BUT, as Mr1derful showed with his confusion on this thread... I do not believe that this would be the place to talk about another message boards status ....other than to state that KKGO GO Country 105 has severed yet another of the ties with its diverse listeners that are based all around LA and Orange County by choosing to disassociate itself from the Country Music Message board that once had a link on it's main website for listeners to go to the message boards and state opinions etc...

In answer to your confusion Mr1derful KKGO severed ties to countryboards.com and there was rumor that the message boards would be taken down because of this action by KKGO. Lyrictime was letting people know the rumors should be put to rest as Kevin who is the owner of countryboards.com made the statement he posted here letting people know that the boards would continue and he does not have plans to shut them down.

 

[Mr1derful]

Sometimes when ya go fishin' there are facts on the shore handed to you .... and thus starts or continues the rumor and speculation issues.

BUT, as Mr1derful showed with his confusion on this thread... I do not believe that this would be the place to talk about another message boards status ....other than to state that KKGO GO Country 105 has severed yet another of the ties with its diverse listeners that are based all around LA and Orange County by choosing to disassociate itself from the Country Music Message board that once had a link on it's main website for listeners to go to the message boards and state opinions etc...

In answer to your confusion Mr1derful KKGO severed ties to countryboards.com and there was rumor that the message boards would be taken down because of this action by KKGO. Lyrictime was letting people know the rumors should be put to rest as Kevin who is the owner of countryboards.com made the statement he posted here letting people know that the boards would continue and he does not have plans to shut them down.

No, Rebafan, I wasn't confused about Kevin's original post. I understood that perfectly. I was just commenting on Lyrictyme's statement at the end. I think the majority of us on the LA boards knew what Kevin was saying. I just don't think Lyrictyme's words really added anything to it. But, I guess, to each his own.

I do have to admit that Rebafan, Lyrictyme, and the other members of Countryboards.com who post over here have got great passion for Country radio in L.A.

 

[Rebafan]

Sometimes when ya go fishin' there are facts on the shore handed to you .... and thus starts or continues the rumor and speculation issues.

BUT, as Mr1derful showed with his confusion on this thread... I do not believe that this would be the place to talk about another message boards status ....other than to state that KKGO GO Country 105 has severed yet another of the ties with its diverse listeners that are based all around LA and Orange County by choosing to disassociate itself from the Country Music Message board that once had a link on it's main website for listeners to go to the message boards and state opinions etc...

In answer to your confusion Mr1derful KKGO severed ties to countryboards.com and there was rumor that the message boards would be taken down because of this action by KKGO. Lyrictime was letting people know the rumors should be put to rest as Kevin who is the owner of countryboards.com made the statement he posted here letting people know that the boards would continue and he does not have plans to shut them down.

No, Rebafan, I wasn't confused about Kevin's original post. I understood that perfectly. I was just commenting on Lyrictyme's statement at the end. I think the majority of us on the LA boards knew what Kevin was saying. I just don't think Lyrictyme's words really added anything to it. But, I guess, to each his own.

I do have to admit that Rebafan, Lyrictyme, and the other members of Countryboards.com who post over here have got great passion for Country radio in L.A.

Thank you for your clarification as to the ????

I do have a GREAT love for country radio, for me though it is NOT just about the music it is about the people on my radio, the radio personalities. If tomorrow Brian Douglas, Todd Baker, Ashley Paige, Buzz Brainard, Whitney Allen or other radio personalities I enjoy listening to were to be on Movin' 93.9 I might just tune in to hear their shift or part of it. If Charlie Tuna came back to country radio, I would NOT miss a shift he did if I could help it.

I believe most people have passion for the things they love and sometimes when they show that passion others may criticize or call them a whiner, complainer etc. for me the name calling does NOTHING more than make me more passionate about whatever it is I am fighting or hoping for. Lyrictime pointed out to me that as I look at countryboards.com the demographics of the members of the country music board once linked to KKGO is without end... the boards vary in ethnicity, age, as well as where the members reside or listen to the radio... talk about getting a feel for what the listeners want and need.... that would have been a good place to get it. BUT these boards aren't the right one to vent about the mistake KKGO made in severing itself from the message board called countryboards.com KKGO will just have to AGAIN find out for themselves that they made a mistake...

 

[hillbillyRockstar]

I don't frequent myspace, but from what I hear that seems to be the place to be for everyone now.

I can't wait for the day myspace changes something in its business plan that sends everyone spiraling. Everyone seems to be riding this free wave. One day it will end and those stations that have control of their own outlets will win--I guess.

 

[Rebafan]

It seems that the original post by Lyrictime was removed.

I am saddened that my post of this not being the place to talk about the status of countryboards.com on its own because of a post that I felt was made in confusion as to WHY the post was on this message board as opposed to what it was about may have caused the post to be removed.

I apologize to Lyrictime if he was offended or mistook my post of reply as bashing etc.

 

[nmoore6676]

It seems that the original post by Lyrictime was removed.

I am saddened that my post of this not being the place to talk about the status of countryboards.com on its own because of a post that I felt was made in confusion as to WHY the post was on this message board as opposed to what it was about may have caused the post to be removed.

I apologize to Lyrictime if he was offended or mistook my post of reply as bashing etc.

There is an old country song that goes like "I was looking back to see if she was looking back to see, if I was looking....." and so on. I feel like that here, and now I am confused.

Was or is Country Boards created as a result of KKGO and or the demise of KZLA? I have to question in either event why KKGO does not want to have a link from their site anymore. What I am seeing is that a lot of what I liked about KKGO initially and what I like about the various stations I frequent via streaming are the ones that besides playing music I like while also maintaining some contact with the fans. I realize that personal responses are not largely feasible all of the time but the concept that they are listening to the fans is important. Dissolving the connection to Country Boards seems to go counter that concept. Added to the recent personnel changes the perception is that they have gotten to big to care which is not seen from reviewing the ratings trends.

In the past when the people at Mount Wilson have attempted various formats even the ones that they scrapped, they have always seemed to bring in talented people who knew and loved the music. I have always listened to them all and enjoyed most. Now it seems like they have brought in an expert to give them direction and it seems like they are alienating the listeners. I hope they throw out that consultant and go with their gut. I liked where they were headed before but now I keep expecting another shocking revelation every day. In this market, which for country is difficult, paying attention to the fans could be the best direction to go.

 

[cwfan]

Was or is Country Boards created as a result of KKGO and or the demise of KZLA? I have to question in either event why KKGO does not want to have a link from their site anymore.

Countryboards was created when KZLA went off the air. It was created solely for the old KZLA board members to keep in touch with each other because we knew at some point the KZLA boards would be taken down. Then people used the countryboards to organize letter writing campaigns to get country back on the radio. You’ll hear a lot of people say that is why countryboards was created, but that’s not the case. Kevin, the old KZLA webmaster and the person who created countryboards, had mentioned doing something more global with countryboards, sort of like this site here, but I’m not sure what is going on with that.

I thought it was kind of strange that KKGO provided a link to an already existing message board rather than creating their own from scratch. That would be kind of like KKGO providing a link to this board as if it was their own board. Countryboards got weird over time and seemed more like a private chat room for a handful of people rather than a message board for a radio station. I can see why KKGO removed the link.

I’d like to see KKGO create their own message board with much stricter moderating, but if they don’t, I won’t be heartbroken.

 

[hillbillyRockstar]

It's my guess KKGO is just banking on myspace and their website and their email address.

I'm not sure what real benefit a message board add in addition to all of the above.

The only problem is when myspace screws everyone, they'll have to find something else to do.

 

[shirleyschmidt]

Wow, and thanks to Mr1derful and now a couple of others, I guess I am a celebrity on this country boards. I guess that CWfan loves me so much you have all the time in the world to my copy posts here and paste them there. Really is this true? You have that much boring time on your hands? Do you really need to spend time doing this? Seriously? Wow, that says a whole lot about you. Sorry though (and thanks dude for telling me) I'm straight and only date men. I think there is a name for people who get fixated on others like you are.

Maybe I'll get over there to read it.. but probably not ever.

Enjoy.

 

[cwfan]

I guess that CWfan loves me so much you have all the time in the world to my copy posts here and paste them there. Really is this true? You have that much boring time on your hands?

I have about as much time as you have to go and check out the countrybords to see what people are posting. Guess you're bored too. Thought you gave up the countryboards. Well, at least you still lurk.

 

[shirleyschmidt]

Re-read my post. Then tell me when I said I went there to read posts over on another site. I have not read anything on that country boards site. Sorry to disappoint.

People have told me about it as I stated clearly. Guess your panties are in a twist. I don't have the time or wish to spend it, but you must.

Flattered, but not sure why. Didn't think my posts here were all that, but I guess they are to you. Thanks.

 

[TattooQueen]

I read that message board for entertainment! Country music isn't my first love 80's pop is what I'm about
cwfan weren't you the one on the KZLA boards egging people on to write Emmis and say how they hated the station? All that letter writing and Emmis moved right along and flipped from the highly hated station

 

[cwfan]

cwfan weren't you the one on the KZLA boards egging people on to write Emmis and say how they hated the station? All that letter writing and Emmis moved right along and flipped from the highly hated station

No, I didn’t tell anyone to write to Emmis about that God awful KZLA. I did all my complaining on the KZLA message boards. At the urging of someone else, I did e-mail Emmis once about the Christmas music fiasco. A lot of good that did.

OMG, I am so happy that KZLA is gone. Because of KZLA’s demise, we finally have a decent country station.

 

[TattooQueen]

cwfan weren't you the one on the KZLA boards egging people on to write Emmis and say how they hated the station? All that letter writing and Emmis moved right along and flipped from the highly hated station

No, I didn’t tell anyone to write to Emmis about that God awful KZLA. I did all my complaining on the KZLA message boards. At the urging of someone else, I did e-mail Emmis once about the Christmas music fiasco. A lot of good that did.

OMG, I am so happy that KZLA is gone. Because of KZLA’s demise, we finally have a decent country station.

Until it evolves into KZLA

 

[hillbillyRockstar]

cwfan weren't you the one on the KZLA boards egging people on to write Emmis and say how they hated the station? All that letter writing and Emmis moved right along and flipped from the highly hated station

No, I didn’t tell anyone to write to Emmis about that God awful KZLA. I did all my complaining on the KZLA message boards. At the urging of someone else, I did e-mail Emmis once about the Christmas music fiasco. A lot of good that did.

OMG, I am so happy that KZLA is gone. Because of KZLA’s demise, we finally have a decent country station.

Until it evolves into KZLA

But it won't.

 

[Rebafan]

cwfan weren't you the one on the KZLA boards egging people on to write Emmis and say how they hated the station? All that letter writing and Emmis moved right along and flipped from the highly hated station

No, I didn’t tell anyone to write to Emmis about that God awful KZLA. I did all my complaining on the KZLA message boards. At the urging of someone else, I did e-mail Emmis once about the Christmas music fiasco. A lot of good that did.

OMG, I am so happy that KZLA is gone. Because of KZLA’s demise, we finally have a decent country station.

Until it evolves into KZLA

But it won't.

I think that KKGO has been playing around with their playlist trying to find the right mix of music.
They started out with a mainstream country format coming out of Dial Global which was well liked, they added some hot country (newer country) when they went live and local but kept up with the classic/current ratio pretty good for awhile. Then came the repetitive songs and artists played every hour and comments made by listeners that the playlist was beginning to sound more and more like KZLA... yet another tweaking and it was back on track.... slipped off another time recently and now it appears they are once again on track. SHEESH that was ALOT of flip flopping LOL BUT I would hope that the station, having many of the former KZLA staff there would have learned from the mistakes of the previous station and move forward because of it.
Lessons learned is what I am hoping for. With Charlie Cook consulting on the navigation of the programming HOPEFULLY the station will at some point soon (it's been a year) be able to have a written in stone "what the station is" agenda instead of it being mainstream country, hot country, and then somewhere in between.

I do not listen during the week except on rare occasions, I do read the Country Music Message board because I am a country music fan and AT TIMES there is good information there about what is going on in country music as well as what is going on at the station as far as shift changes, format adjustments etc.
The entertainment value of a message board is also a reason to read it and I am at time entertained reading those boards as well.
IF I read about the listeners being in an uproar about live callers being taken off the air, the radio personalities that have been let go etc., etc, YES I will put in my 2 cents as far as posting something here in order to 1. find out what is going on. and 2. to get feedback as to what industry professionals as well as other listeners think.

People e-mail or call me all the time asking if I know anything about such and such or did I hear one of the personalities say this or that on the air etc., so I am somewhat drawn in but My Bottom line opinion is, As I am not a regular listener of the station any longer, what happens to the station is not of a major concern to me....


For people that don't like the station and would like to listen to Country Music via Streaming on the internet, if interested I have a full list of ALL the California stations I am aware of the stream and would be happy to post them...

 

[hillbillyRockstar]

My favorite parts about this board are the posts that list all this information about a station and then slip in "I don't listen".

 

[Marv-L.A.]

Hiring Charlie Cook wa a megacolossal disaster; the last thing KKGO needed was to start sounding like an overconsulted, overresearched, and horrendously oversterilized corporate-owned radio station, where improvisation and 'going outside the box' are mercilessly discouraged.

Firing Todd Baker was another blunder; the last air personality to blow everybody's doors of upon entering the airwaves in LA was Ryan Seacrest 10+ years ago at KYSR.

Ignoring new singles from format megastars was a frequent and inexcusable problem at KZLA; titans of the format such as Brooks & Dunn, Tim McGraw, Alan Jackson & George Strait merit immediate adds at any country station, and you never ignore any new music from those format institutions, but RJ Curtis never got that memo, which is beyond asinine.

Waiting over two weeks to add Mr. Strait's newest masterpiece and mortal-lock #1 single in also indefensibly asinine for what is 'allegedly' a country radio station

Since 'I Saw God Today' recently became the highest-debuting single of his career, blowing onto BB @ #19 & #24 at Lon Helton's Country Aircheck, such moronic programming decision-making clearly shows that KKGO has continued to repeat many of the blunders which plagued KZLA, and almost all of which were self-inflicted wounds and easiy avoidable.

 

[cwfan]

My favorite parts about this board are the posts that list all this information about a station and then slip in "I don't listen".

Yeah, just like the people who claim to never read the countryboards but know everything that is going on over there.

 

[hillbillyRockstar]

Yeah, I was surprised to find out Strait's newest was #1, but at that time I had only heard it once. I thought to myself, "Self, if this just came out, how did it reach #1 already?" Well, I guess it was already out for a while.